Slack Bladder Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 3 2 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Homophobia is just "banter", eh? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Probably not 'banter' for a gay person, or someone perceived to be gay, on the receiving end of this. Same would go for racist slurs, thankfully not in the 70s anymore. Dinosaurs will eventually become extinct, even though you wouldn't think it looking at the state of the world today. Edited January 13, 2023 by GlastonburyRed 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Homophobia is just "banter", eh? NO! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Face palm, enough said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 Idiot. Edited January 13, 2023 by Vidal 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 Does it ever occur to you that said change might be for the better? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 I think the OP wasn't condoning the actions but just stating how it was "then". I bet in the 60's to 90's a lot of posters on here would have used chants etc. as slurs to the opponents (I know I would have), but times and sensibilities have changed and I wouldn't do it now . 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: I think the OP wasn't condoning the actions but just stating how it was "then". I bet in the 60's to 90's a lot of posters on here would have used chants etc. as slurs to the opponents (I know I would have), but times and sensibilities have changed and I wouldn't do it now . Describing it as ‘banter’ suggests otherwise. Banter is defined as “the playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks”. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, italian dave said: Describing it as ‘banter’ suggests otherwise. Banter is defined as “the playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks”. Well, of course I may be wrong, just giving another side . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, slartibartfast said: Well, of course I may be wrong, just giving another side . I suppose if he was using racist terms would you be taking the same alternative view ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Noticed this the other day ‘Chelsea rent boy’ chant now a breach of discrimination rules, FA confirm | The Independent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 Yes banter is part of football. You'll probably find it's society in general that has moved on and left you behind rather than football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, italian dave said: Describing it as ‘banter’ suggests otherwise. Banter is defined as “the playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks”. Banter is dead because everyone has such a thin skin and no sense of humour. 10 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Clutton Caveman said: Banter is dead because everyone has such a thin skin and no sense of humour. It’s just about basic respect tbh. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Clutton Caveman said: Banter is dead because everyone has such a thin skin and no sense of humour. Well, post no. 666 for you will be memorable. Telling people who are anti-homophobia that they are thin skinned and have no sense of humour... Stay classy. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clutton Caveman Posted January 13, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, CiderCraig said: Well, post no. 666 for you will be memorable. Telling people who are anti-homophobia that they are thin skinned and have no sense of humour... Stay classy. My statement was a general one about banter but your comment makes my case. Agreeing to disagree is dead. If you disagree you are a bad person, if you dare to express a personal opinion that differs in any way from the current popular position you are automatically a bigot. Free speech and free thought is being shut down by an ultra left minority. God help us. 15 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 One of my mates was nicked at Wolves in the GJ era for singing “town full of gypos” in response to the whole of the South Bank singing similar at us, so it’s nothing new. Edited January 13, 2023 by tin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: My statement was a general one about banter but your comment makes my case. Agreeing to disagree is dead. If you disagree you are a bad person, if you dare to express a personal opinion that differs in any way from the current popular position you are automatically a bigot. Free speech and free thought is being shut down by an ultra left minority. God help us. Homophobia alive and well in Clutton I see. It isn't banter, I'm not 'ultra-left' - I am just an accepting human being, you should try it some time. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Percy Pig said: Golly, could you vomit out any more alt-right, culture war clichés? I think I'm one short of a line and two away from a fullhouse. Cultural Marxism for a bonus prize. Don't think you're allowed to say "Golly"any more. 2 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 I mean looking at where society is nowdays , I can envisage this sort of thing being non existant in 10 - 20 years. Unfortunately some of societies lowest are pretty prevalent at football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: My statement was a general one about banter but your comment makes my case. Agreeing to disagree is dead. If you disagree you are a bad person, if you dare to express a personal opinion that differs in any way from the current popular position you are automatically a bigot. Free speech and free thought is being shut down by an ultra left minority. God help us. "I think you should be allowed to shout hurtful homophobic slurs at people" "That's not acceptable" "Well let's just agree to disagree" What a ridiculous argument. That's just saying "I'm right and refuse to even discuss this" in different words - sad. Fascinating you associate being a decent person and not abusive with being "ultra left" wing though, hah. Edited January 13, 2023 by IAmNick 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 My immediate question would be "how do you know you've called people worse given the article doesn't actually tell us what he said?" I honestly don't believe the police have got the time or resources to go around arresting everyone who says anything and everything inappropriate at a football match. The fact it says it was aimed at players and fans makes me suspect it may not have been something someone said once but someone aiming a fairly constant barrage of abuse. I don't know what that abuse was exactly but I'd not expect someone to be allowed to shout homophobic abuse at a stranger on the street so I'm not quite clear why we're expecting it to be accepted at a football match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 Will be almost impossible to Police this at football but fair play there should be no place for homophobia in football just like racism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: My statement was a general one about banter but your comment makes my case. Agreeing to disagree is dead. If you disagree you are a bad person, if you dare to express a personal opinion that differs in any way from the current popular position you are automatically a bigot. Free speech and free thought is being shut down by an ultra left minority. God help us. Except that's not true, is it? What's actually happened if you've made a comment and someone has disagreed with you, which is not surprising on an internet message board. Someone has expressed an opinion different to yours and your response has been to claim that, because someone disagrees with you, "agreeing to disagree is dead" and "free speech and free thought is being shut down". Perhaps taking a long hard look in the mirror would be the best way to identify which poster on this thread is trying to shut down disagreement and speech and ideas different to their own? (Spoiler: It's you). You don't strike me as an "ultra left minority" but I guess I could be wrong. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Vidal said: I suppose if he was using racist terms would you be taking the same alternative view ? But he's not, is he ! If my auntie had .........................etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted January 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Sorry, when I asked is banter dead at football I was speaking in far more general terms. Like for example, in one of ours songs (that we have sung for decades) we always to refer to the current Rovers managers mother being a 'whore' which in all honesty, is probably not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 A lot worse than what? The article does not say what was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: But he's not, is he ! If my auntie had .........................etc. I’m asking you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Slack Bladder said: Oh how football has changed since I was a lad. I'm pretty sure I've called away fans and players a lot worse over the years. Is banter part of football? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-64256724 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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