Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 I’ve been following this guy for ages as he’s generally good on the French football rumours. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 100% wages paid then a great deal. To be honest anything over 50% wouldn't be bad given that he's never going to play for us again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Would it be a free transfer if he leaves in the summer (as stated in the article) or is any compensation involved? I would guess compo only comes into it if you offer a new contract, but we did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, robin_unreliant said: Would it be a free transfer if he leaves in the summer (as stated in the article) or is any compensation involved? I would guess compo only comes into it if you offer a new contract, but we did. Yep and he’s under 23 so we should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, robin_unreliant said: Would it be a free transfer if he leaves in the summer (as stated in the article) or is any compensation involved? I would guess compo only comes into it if you offer a new contract, but we did. You are right, assuming we have offered an equivalent contract then assuming he’s heading abroad we will get compo under FIFA RSTP scheme…and probably something in the region of €300k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: You are right, assuming we have offered an equivalent contract then assuming he’s heading abroad we will get compo under FIFA RSTP scheme…and probably something in the region of €300k. When you say 'equivalent' does that mean at least the current salary? As most players are being offered reduced terms, maybe we wouldn't actually meet that condition? 300k is way below his market value but better than nowt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 I actually think HNM would need replacing more urgently than Antoine. Forwards: Wells, Weimann, Conway, Bell, Sykes, Martin CM's (without HNM): Williams, Scott, James, Naismith, King Granted we've injuries up top but Weimann should be back soon. Ideally we'd replace both but I think we're a bit worryingly light in the middle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Au revoir? Non, goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: When you say 'equivalent' does that mean at least the current salary? As most players are being offered reduced terms, maybe we wouldn't actually meet that condition? 300k is way below his market value but better than nowt. Yes, must be same (or more) than current contract. RSTP is a fixed calculation based on club category and number of years, etc. It takes no account of player value, wages, fee paid, etc. It is why I wished he’d find a suitor in this country where compo would likely be higher (under PFCC scheme). I’m in no way ITK, but it’s my guess that it’s the reason we’ve formally offered him a contract. Should be re-sign, fantastic, if he doesn’t, we will take the €300k. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 ‘But we signed him for £7m’ incoming….. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Seems to be a bit on Twitter of HNM to Auxerre, loan to end of season Edit Sorry, just seen already in transfer forum (thought that was where I was looking) Edited January 30, 2023 by sh1t_ref_again not looking well enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: ‘But we signed him for £7m’ incoming….. But we signed him for £7m! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Really really big potential for a very good window over the next few days if this is how the week starts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Google translate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yes, must be same (or more) than current contract. RSTP is a fixed calculation based on club category and number of years, etc. It takes no account of player value, wages, fee paid, etc. It is why I wished he’d find a suitor in this country where compo would likely be higher (under PFCC scheme). I’m in no way ITK, but it’s my guess that it’s the reason we’ve formally offered him a contract. Should be re-sign, fantastic, if he doesn’t, we will take the €300k. Lots of players take that route, as it avoids the UK tribunal system, and there is less friction involved. I have a feeling he's not homesick and is using it as stepping stone to get back into bigger club, I think the training himself was possibly the last straw before Pearson took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: I think the training himself was possibly the last straw before Pearson took over. What is that referring to? Was he left to train on his own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Bottom line is there is no reason for a respected French football journalist to make up a rumour about Bristol City so guessing there is probably something in this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: But we signed him for £7m! And Chelsea were going to pay us £50 m for him at the end of last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What is that referring to? Was he left to train on his own? He posted on Social Media him doing some running around Bristol with some training equipment etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Good news all round if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: I actually think HNM would need replacing more urgently than Antoine. Forwards: Wells, Weimann, Conway, Bell, Sykes, Martin CM's (without HNM): Williams, Scott, James, Naismith, King Granted we've injuries up top but Weimann should be back soon. Ideally we'd replace both but I think we're a bit worryingly light in the middle. Sorry that makes no sense whatsoever. He 's not played for ages whereas Semenyo was in form and scoring. You're included Martin who is leaving but not mentioned either Khadji or Tsylor-Ckarke who have been on the bench... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Google translate Good to see the article suggesting they'll cover the wages too. So assume saving us c£150k (my calculation could be way off) between now and the end of June plus the compensation? Every little helps. It's a real shame it may end like this though as i think he's a great player and would've loved for him to stay. Also, doesn't the window for transfers abroad stay open for a bit longer beyond Tuesdays domestic deadline? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Bard said: Sorry that makes no sense whatsoever. He 's not played for ages whereas Semenyo was in form and scoring. You're included Martin who is leaving but not mentioned either Khadji or Tsylor-Ckarke who have been on the bench... Absolutely. The current midfield pecking order is James, Naismith & Scott as first picks, then Williams, King, Taylor-Clarke & Kadji. He’s optimistically our 7th choice, Semenyo was a guaranteed starter with Conway injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: Good to see the article suggesting they'll cover the wages too. So assume saving us c£150k (my calculation could be way off) between now and the end of June plus the compensation? Every little helps. It's a real shame it may end like this though as i think he's a great player and would've loved for him to stay. Also, doesn't the window for transfers abroad stay open for a bit longer beyond Tuesdays domestic deadline? Nope, exactly the same as ours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: He posted on Social Media him doing some running around Bristol with some training equipment etc Ah, yes, dropping his old stuff into a charity shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Not really sure how i feel about this tbh. He is clearly way down the pecking order, and may as well offload him but i can't help but think HNM has had some shit advice. There is a decent player in their amongst all that hair, but you need to be playing. Concentrate on training well, and play. Show off your talent to get a move away not shut up shop. Disappointing to see a player with such a great opportunity piss around with his own career 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fontaineofallknowledge Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Not really sure how i feel about this tbh. He is clearly way down the pecking order, and may as well offload him but i can't help but think HNM has had some shit advice. There is a decent player in their amongst all that hair, but you need to be playing. Concentrate on training well, and play. Show off your talent to get a move away not shut up shop. Disappointing to see a player with such a great opportunity piss around with his own career Sorry what has he done wrong? Just made it clear he isn't going to sign a new contract which is his prerogative. It's up to Nige if he doesn't want to play him-either due to triggering extra payments to Monaco Or to focus on committed players which is fair enough. Should Han have signed a new contact if he wants to leave? 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What is that referring to? Was he left to train on his own? I don't know if you remember or not but around the time we had all the injuries, HNM had hired his own help to take care of his strength and conditioning as he wasn't impressed with the clubs efforts on that front. For me if I was a pro, that would both boil my piss, and nudge me towards the door. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_bristol Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Nope, exactly the same as ours. What about the window for loans. Does that slam shut on Tuesday as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: I don't know if you remember or not but around the time we had all the injuries, HNM had hired his own help to take care of his strength and conditioning as he wasn't impressed with the clubs efforts on that front. For me if I was a pro, that would both boil my piss, and nudge me towards the door. Ah, ok…I know he has a guy that comes in pretty much every morning to do stuff with him before he heads off to Failand. 2 minutes ago, real_bristol said: What about the window for loans. Does that slam shut on Tuesday as well? Yes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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