Northern Red Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Auxerre have a few upcoming games showing on BT Sport if anyone wants to keep tabs on him: Wed 1st Feb 8pm - Monaco (A) Fri 17th Feb 8pm - Lyon (H) Sun 26th Feb 12pm - Lorient (A) 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, mozo said: Massengo is 21 years old. He has a whole career ahead of him. Absolutely this…and he comes with the benefit of the experience that 100 appearances in the Championship brings - something not many midfielders will have at that age. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Monaco v Auxerre is on BT Sport on Wednesday- wonder if he will start v his old team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, italian dave said: Absolutely this…and he comes with the benefit of the experience that 100 appearances in the Championship brings - something not many midfielders will have at that age. 99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 53 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Monaco v Auxerre is on BT Sport on Wednesday- wonder if he will start v his old team Nailed on to score. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: Nailed on to score. Yep, a penalty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 hours ago, An Outstanding Human said: Another day, another expensive and well paid asset having to go for little to nothing, another reminder of how poorly the club has been run over the last few years. Pearson identified his contract issue as soon as he arrived here. For a young player he was on a hell of a lot of money so like others he was told if he were to sign it would be on reduced terms. To begin with Pearson gave him every opportunity to sign a new deal and show him that he was at the best club to progress his career. HNM is a wise young man. He is a hard worker and he brought his family to Bristol with him. He had all the ingredients to be a Nigel Pearson type player. He would have flourished under Pearson however he was poorly advised by his agents. Once Nigel knew this he simply gave up on him and got him out of the 1st team. No point in wasting time and resources on a player that had began to think he could do better than us. Glad that we've got his wages off the payroll and although it will be small we will recieve some sort of fee for him I believe when he signs for a new club? Pearson won't let this happen again. Hence why Semenyo was sold now. He was going to be sold in the summer but his injury put clubs off. But moving forward if a player shows no interest in signing a new deal, they'll be gone whilst we can get decent money for them. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Northern Red said: Because he hasn't permanently gone yet. Yes he has. He's no doubt signed a six month contract with Auxerre and his contract here expires in six months. In what scenario is he likely to still be a Bristol City player on July 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Pearson identified his contract issue as soon as he arrived here. For a young player he was on a hell of a lot of money so like others he was told if he were to sign it would be on reduced terms. To begin with Pearson gave him every opportunity to sign a new deal and show him that he was at the best club to progress his career. HNM is a wise young man. He is a hard worker and he brought his family to Bristol with him. He had all the ingredients to be a Nigel Pearson type player. He would have flourished under Pearson however he was poorly advised by his agents. Once Nigel knew this he simply gave up on him and got him out of the 1st team. No point in wasting time and resources on a player that had began to think he could do better than us. Glad that we've got his wages off the payroll and although it will be small we will recieve some sort of fee for him I believe when he signs for a new club? Pearson won't let this happen again. Hence why Semenyo was sold now. He was going to be sold in the summer but his injury put clubs off. But moving forward if a player shows no interest in signing a new deal, they'll be gone whilst we can get decent money for them. Do you think there's any truth in the 100 league appearances element? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 He thought he was going at the end of last season with his camcorder and waving goodbye, yes the 99 game thing isn't a coincidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 This was so well buried under the Man City news last night I think BBC have missed it it's not on their completed deals page which has literally everything. Good luck Han-Noah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Yes he has. He's no doubt signed a six month contract with Auxerre and his contract here expires in six months. In what scenario is he likely to still be a Bristol City player on July 1st. I wonder if he’s got a longer deal with Auxerre ready to go ( I think players are able to negotiate with potential suitors 6 months before a contract ends). Auxerre offered a very small fee to buy him now, along the lines of what they hope/anticipate the tribunal will set. We have higher hopes/expectations and wanted more. So the 6 month loan is a compromise and then see what the tribunal set. Just a theory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Only just realised that Auxerre are 19th in League 1........with only 3 wins all season. Not exactly the most secure of moves for HNM, although i wish him all the very best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, italian dave said: I wonder if he’s got a longer deal with Auxerre ready to go ( I think players are able to negotiate with potential suitors 6 months before a contract ends). Auxerre offered a very small fee to buy him now, along the lines of what they hope/anticipate the tribunal will set. We have higher hopes/expectations and wanted more. So the 6 month loan is a compromise and then see what the tribunal set. Just a theory! There was no option to buy as part of the loan. That’s not to say there isn’t something stuffed in the drawer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: There was no option to buy as part of the loan. That’s not to say there isn’t something stuffed in the drawer! But option to buy normally requires a price?….…I think they may have just both agreed to wait and see what the tribunal says. As I say, entirely supposition!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, italian dave said: But option to buy normally requires a price?….…I think they may have just both agreed to wait and see what the tribunal says. As I say, entirely supposition!! There is no tribunal. Assuming we have offered him a contract of equivalent wage to his current one we will get compo based on a set FIFA formula (RSTP compo scheme) as it’s a cross border transfer. Assuming Auxerre are a FIFA Cat 1 club then we should get €90k per year here (€360k total). If they are classed as Cat 2, then it’s €60k per year here. It’s why I usually say circa €300k (split the difference). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: There is no tribunal. Assuming we have offered him a contract of equivalent wage to his current one we will get compo based on a set FIFA formula (RSTP compo scheme) as it’s a cross border transfer. Assuming Auxerre are a FIFA Cat 1 club then we should get €90k per year here (€360k total). If they are classed as Cat 2, then it’s €60k per year here. It’s why I usually say circa €300k (split the difference). Ah, OK, thanks Dave. I didn’t realise it was a fixed formula. I’m still in the days of us stealing Alan Walsh via a tribunal!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 15 hours ago, elhombrecito said: Nailed on to score. 20/1 to score anytime. Not the best value bet I've ever seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 More chance of cole skuse getting a hat trick, than Hans getting a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 30/01/2023 at 09:31, Davefevs said: You are right, assuming we have offered an equivalent contract then assuming he’s heading abroad we will get compo under FIFA RSTP scheme…and probably something in the region of €300k. But if he plays and plays well some one else might come in for him and we get a transfer fee. Or am I miles off the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 And good luck to the young chap. I still feel there is a decent midfielder in there some where 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: But if he plays and plays well some one else might come in for him and we get a transfer fee. Or am I miles off the mark I don’t think anyone is gonna come in between now and 1st July and offer us more than €300k to stop him becoming a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think anyone is gonna come in between now and 1st July and offer us more than €300k to stop him becoming a free agent. Well who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 First game is against Monaco. Bet he'll be right up for that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: And good luck to the young chap. I still feel there is a decent midfielder in there some where There definitely is. He just wasn't the right player for us. Scattergun recruitment catches up with you in the end.........after the culprits are long departed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Han-Noah has travelled to Monaco and is in the squad for tonight’s game against his old side. Very likely to start on the bench. Live on BT Sport 4 @ 8pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 18 hours ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think anyone is gonna come in between now and 1st July and offer us more than €300k to stop him becoming a free agent. 18 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Well who knows And even if they do, it’s even less likely that it will be somewhere HNM wants to go to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 They signed Siriki Dembele on loan yesterday too, though too late for him to be involved tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 On BT Sports 4 tonight if anyone is interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 On Bet365 too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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