Kane Wilson

[pl00peh91]

Played for the U21s today. Really can’t wait to see what he can do in a City shirt. This season is probably too soon for him, and I know there have been some concerns defensively, so probably best to build him back slowly and get him ready for next season. Interesting to see how we play him too as we bought him with 352 in mind and now we play with a four. Was interesting to see how Pearson preferred an out of position Sykes to him earlier in the a season.
 

Either way, happy to see his recovery is going well and look forward to seeing him soon.

[Eddie Notgetinya]

I don’t think Sykes was preferred as such. Wilson took a knock before his current injury so Sykes got the nod and then didn’t really do much wrong so kept his place 

[GrahamC]

Good news that we have another option.

Certainly can’t expect to come in with Tanner doing well but in a squad of only about 22, having everyone fit & available is very good news.

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said:

Played for the U21s today. Really can’t wait to see what he can do in a City shirt. This season is probably too soon for him, and I know there have been some concerns defensively, so probably best to build him back slowly and get him ready for next season. Interesting to see how we play him too as we bought him with 352 in mind and now we play with a four. Was interesting to see how Pearson preferred an out of position Sykes to him earlier in the a season.
 

Either way, happy to see his recovery is going well and look forward to seeing him soon.

He’s played a lot at RB too, so hopefully he can be versatile going forward (in more ways than one)

[pl00peh91]

1 minute ago, Eddie Notgetinya said:

I don’t think Sykes was preferred as such. Wilson took a knock before his current injury so Sykes got the nod and then didn’t really do much wrong so kept his place 

I remember there was a home game early on where Pearson played Alex Scott in RWB rather than Wilson, I think he justified it by saying he wanted all his best players on the pitch at the time, but I felt Pearson was reluctant to play him because of perceived defensive issues. 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

5 hours ago, pl00peh91 said:

I remember there was a home game early on where Pearson played Alex Scott in RWB rather than Wilson, I think he justified it by saying he wanted all his best players on the pitch at the time, but I felt Pearson was reluctant to play him because of perceived defensive issues. 

NP sees something in him or he not he here. 

[And Its Smith]

Wilson is undoubtedly better in the oppositions half than Tanner.  Will be interesting to see how close Wilson can get to Tanner’s ability in our half.  I would certainly welcome giving him a run of a few games to see what he can do.  Pring and Wilson as full backs could be very exciting! 

[frenchred]

He's not going to suddenly come back as some right sided superstar and the answer to all our problems just for being out injured!

Is it only here that players are escalated to Messiah status while out injured.

He wasn't good enough before his injury and will need time and patience on the training ground to be anywhere near championship standard

[Bris Red]

1 minute ago, frenchred said:

He's not going to suddenly come back as some right sided superstar and the answer to all our problems just for being out injured!

Is it only here that players are escalated to Messiah status while out injured.

He wasn't good enough before his injury and will need time and patience on the training ground to be anywhere near championship standard

Indeed. Hopefully he can work his way back into contention and get some game time towards the end of this season. Your hoping then with a full pre-season under his belt we can see his full potential next season.

I must admit he was the summer signing i was most excited about when he came in but it unfortunately just hasn’t worked out for him here thus far.

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, frenchred said:

He's not going to suddenly come back as some right sided superstar and the answer to all our problems just for being out injured!

Is it only here that players are escalated to Messiah status while out injured.

He wasn't good enough before his injury and will need time and patience on the training ground to be anywhere near championship standard

Don’t forget he was trying play on an injury, trying to get through the pain.  It ultimately needed surgery.  I wouldn’t judge too much from a few sub appearances early doors.  Totally right to reserve judgement though.

[Bat Fastard]

8 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

NP sees something in him or he not he here. 

Is that code?

[Northern Red]

17 minutes ago, frenchred said:

He's not going to suddenly come back as some right sided superstar and the answer to all our problems just for being out injured!

Is it only here that players are escalated to Messiah status while out injured.

He wasn't good enough before his injury and will need time and patience on the training ground to be anywhere near championship standard

Not sure anyone's said anything like that.

[glynriley]

7 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Not sure anyone's said anything like that.

Some are running out of things to moan about.

[And Its Smith]

7 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Not sure anyone's said anything like that.

Are you saying he has made something up to suit his negativity?  I’m shocked!

[And Its Smith]

1 minute ago, glynriley said:

Some are running out of things to moan about.

There is a small section of this forum who will say something negative and then would prefer that player played poorly to be proved right than for them to play well, help the team, and be proved wrong.  Bizarre 

[Bris Red]

6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

There is a small section of this forum who will say something negative and then would prefer that player played poorly to be proved right than for them to play well, help the team, and be proved wrong.  Bizarre 

Precisely this. As you said there is a small minority on here that would rather be proven ‘right’ about a manager or player even if it is at the expense of the club winning football matches.

Without a doubt there is a small % that are pissed off right now that Pearson seems to have turnt us around and we are winning games again. We have seen it time and time over the years, it was the same with Johnson jnr and snr Cotts etc etc. It’s mental really and quite sad.

[mozo]

20 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

Precisely this. As you said there is a small minority on here that would rather be proven ‘right’ about a manager or player even if it is at the expense of the club winning football matches.

Without a doubt there is a small % that are pissed off right now that Pearson seems to have turnt us around and we are winning games again. We have seen it time and time over the years, it was the same with Johnson jnr and snr Cotts etc etc. It’s mental really and quite sad.

Turnt is a great word

[Sturny]

54 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

Precisely this. As you said there is a small minority on here that would rather be proven ‘right’ about a manager or player even if it is at the expense of the club winning football matches.

Without a doubt there is a small % that are pissed off right now that Pearson seems to have turnt us around and we are winning games again. We have seen it time and time over the years, it was the same with Johnson jnr and snr Cotts etc etc. It’s mental really and quite sad.

You're not wrong. But I also see a small section obsessed with them, after a win I see "that'll upset the usual suspects" and so on. Just makes me cringe when their first reaction is to gain a moral high after a win. Just don't understand it personally. 

The best thing you can do to very negative posters is to ignore them. I'm sure they're in their hole right now. 

[Rudolf Hucker]

1 hour ago, mozo said:

Turnt is a great word

Superb. Pure Bristolian. 

[chinapig]

1 hour ago, Northern Red said:

Not sure anyone's said anything like that.

Quite, a classic straw man argument.

[Sir Geoff]

2 hours ago, frenchred said:

He's not going to suddenly come back as some right sided superstar and the answer to all our problems just for being out injured!

Is it only here that players are escalated to Messiah status while out injured.

He wasn't good enough before his injury and will need time and patience on the training ground to be anywhere near championship standard

He played well and looked good in pre season games. Barely played many league minutes and was clearly playing with an injury imo. How can you judge him on so little game time ?

[marcofisher]

Think it is good to have two options.

 

Tanner = Defensive full back

Wilson = Attacking full back/Wing-back

[Bris Red]

17 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Superb. Pure Bristolian. 

Proper 

[frenchred]

1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said:

He played well and looked good in pre season games. Barely played many league minutes and was clearly playing with an injury imo. How can you judge him on so little game time ?

I am not judging him at all despite those on here claiming I must moan about something!

He wasn't the answer before his injury and will need time and probs a pre season with us for him to be of Benefit.to our team how we are currently playing 

Again despite all those claiming negativity I hope the lad proves to be our answer and goes on to have a stellar career with us

 

 

 

[Davefevs]

Just now, frenchred said:

I am not judging him at all despite those on here claiming I must moan about something!

He wasn't the answer before his injury and will need time and probs a pre season with us for him to be of Benefit.to our team how we are currently playing 

Again despite all those claiming negativity I hope the lad proves to be our answer and goes on to have a stellar career with us

 

 

 

I think what some of us are saying / asking is how are you forming that opinion….because he barely played any minutes and some of those minutes were whilst trying to carry on playing whilst being injured.  He looked half tidy pre-season, exciting v Hull, less so v Sunderland, decent against Cov (cup) etc.

Theres a big difference between “he wasn’t the answer before his injury” and “I’ve not seen enough to judge”, isn’t there?  Maybe it’s just the way you’ve worded it???

[Rocking Red Cyril]

11 hours ago, Bat Fastard said:

Is that code?

Ahhhhh that he is a be 

Edited February 6, 2023 by Rocking Red Cyril
I bloody confused now

[Rocking Red Cyril]

2 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Ahhhhh that he is a be 

I think that makes sense now

[downendcity]

14 hours ago, mozo said:

Turnt is a great word

 

12 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Superb. Pure Bristolian. 

Up there with blige?

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

We need a judgment. So Ryley, turnt or blige?

[REDOXO]

OTIB in Bloke playing on over several games with a severe injury is really a bit crap Shocker! 

[42nite]

5 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

We need a judgment. So Ryley, turnt or blige?

Innit!

[Port Said Red]

21 hours ago, frenchred said:

He's not going to suddenly come back as some right sided superstar and the answer to all our problems just for being out injured!

Is it only here that players are escalated to Messiah status while out injured.

He wasn't good enough before his injury and will need time and patience on the training ground to be anywhere near championship standard

A couple of things. One is, I don't think we have any particular "problems" down the right side George Tanner is getting better and better by game and his assist for the third goal against WBA was a thing of beauty. Sykes ahead of him, hasn't been spectacular, but he has scored 4 goals and got an assist in the last 5 games.

The second thing is, as @Davefevssaid, most of us have only seen him with an injury, that worsened to the point of requiring surgery, the players who saw him fit preseason were apparently really impressed by him and disappointed he hasn't been available.

[DaveInSA]

I love it when our unspectacular players score 4 goals in 5 games.

Blige they turnnt in some bilge performances 

[alexukhc]

Can he play left back?

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Can he play left back?

Yes

[Red_Alligator]

We need to see Wilson back fully fit and given a decent run of games, but I do think that he has the ability to develop into a very good player for us. I'm sure Nige will have some ideas about that might happen.

[GrahamC]

6 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

A couple of things. One is, I don't think we have any particular "problems" down the right side George Tanner is getting better and better by game and his assist for the third goal against WBA was a thing of beauty. Sykes ahead of him, hasn't been spectacular, but he has scored 4 goals and got an assist in the last 5 games.

The second thing is, as @Davefevssaid, most of us have only seen him with an injury, that worsened to the point of requiring surgery, the players who saw him fit preseason were apparently really impressed by him and disappointed he hasn't been available.

This might be worth a thread of its own, but re your Sykes comment.

This is a bloke we picked up on a free transfer with absolutely no fanfare at all from Oxford United where he was a utility player.

He’s started 20 league games already (his first ones at Championship level) & covered RWB whilst Wilson was injured, he’s also won his first Irish cap.

Since moving to his natural RM position he’s scored 4 in 5 games.

Pearson made a point of saying when we signed Mehmeti & Cornick that they have a track record of playing “lots” of games.

We shelled out £600k for someone like Adelakun & then got virtually nothing back, that was by no means an isolated example either, contrast that with Sykes, who I expect (like Wilson) is a relatively low wage earner.

Sykes isn’t “spectacular” but he’s an example of how we are upping our game in terms of recruitment, with far less spent, but very little wasted.

Happy days.

Edited February 7, 2023 by GrahamC

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

This might be worth a thread of its own, but re your Sykes comment.

This is a bloke we picked up on a free transfer with absolutely no fanfare at all from Oxford United where he was a utility player.

He’s started 20 league games already (his first ones at Championship level) & covered RWB whilst Wilson was injured, he’s also won his first Irish cap.

Since moving to his natural RM position he’s scored 4 in 5 games.

Pearson made a point of saying when we signed Mehmeti & Cornick that they have a track record of playing “lots” of games.

We shelled out £600k for someone like Adelakun & got virtually nothing back, that was by no means an isolated example, either, contrast that with Sykes, who I expect (like Wilson) is a relatively low wage earner.

Sykes isn’t “spectacular” he’s an example of how we are upping our game in terms of recruitment, with far less spent, but very little wasted.

Happy days.

Yes, believe me I wasn't attempting to denigrate Sykes in any way, it was an answer to the post that seemed to be suggesting that we were somehow lacking down the right side. When I say he isn't spectacular, I meant he hasn't caught the eye, the way a marauding Pring has for example. 

I think Sykes has worked really hard at his game, even before moving to the more forward position, he never looked as "lost at sea" after the QPR game where he was caught out of position again and again. I just think a fit Wilson will bring a lot of competition to both him and Tanner.

[cidered abroad]

30 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

This might be worth a thread of its own, but re your Sykes comment.

This is a bloke we picked up on a free transfer with absolutely no fanfare at all from Oxford United where he was a utility player.

He’s started 20 league games already (his first ones at Championship level) & covered RWB whilst Wilson was injured, he’s also won his first Irish cap.

Since moving to his natural RM position he’s scored 4 in 5 games.

Pearson made a point of saying when we signed Mehmeti & Cornick that they have a track record of playing “lots” of games.

We shelled out £600k for someone like Adelakun & then got virtually nothing back, that was by no means an isolated example either, contrast that with Sykes, who I expect (like Wilson) is a relatively low wage earner.

Sykes isn’t “spectacular” but he’s an example of how we are upping our game in terms of recruitment, with far less spent, but very little wasted.

Happy days.

The quality of signings since Pearson and Tinnion have got together is so good that it is almost unreal compared with tow we have squnadered money for the past thirty years.

We now have, in many positions, two competent and trustworthy players who are young and, apparently, determined to improve and be winners. A few more to go in in the summer and where will it lead us to? 

Edited February 7, 2023 by cidered abroad

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

Yes, believe me I wasn't attempting to denigrate Sykes in any way, it was an answer to the post that seemed to be suggesting that we were somehow lacking down the right side. When I say he isn't spectacular, I meant he hasn't caught the eye, the way a marauding Pring has for example. 

I think Sykes has worked really hard at his game, even before moving to the more forward position, he never looked as "lost at sea" after the QPR game where he was caught out of position again and again. I just think a fit Wilson will bring a lot of competition to both him and Tanner.

Didn’t think you were, mate.

loads of players are unspectacular, doesn’t mean they aren’t effective.

[alexukhc]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Yes

Could we see him there?

[mozo]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

This might be worth a thread of its own, but re your Sykes comment.

This is a bloke we picked up on a free transfer with absolutely no fanfare at all from Oxford United where he was a utility player.

He’s started 20 league games already (his first ones at Championship level) & covered RWB whilst Wilson was injured, he’s also won his first Irish cap.

Since moving to his natural RM position he’s scored 4 in 5 games.

Pearson made a point of saying when we signed Mehmeti & Cornick that they have a track record of playing “lots” of games.

We shelled out £600k for someone like Adelakun & then got virtually nothing back, that was by no means an isolated example either, contrast that with Sykes, who I expect (like Wilson) is a relatively low wage earner.

Sykes isn’t “spectacular” but he’s an example of how we are upping our game in terms of recruitment, with far less spent, but very little wasted.

Happy days.

I've actually been pleasantly surprised by Sykes. His touch is good, he tracks back well and he's fit as a fiddle.

[Port Said Red]

9 minutes ago, mozo said:

I've actually been pleasantly surprised by Sykes. His touch is good, he tracks back well and he's fit as a fiddle.

In one of the early games, away I think, he pulled off a trick to beat his full back that reminded me of Mark Gavin, I don't know why I haven't seen him use it since.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, alexukhc said:

Could we see him there?

He did pre-season….but I think whilst Jay is here, he will be fighting it out with George.

[mozo]

1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

In one of the early games, away I think, he pulled off a trick to beat his full back that reminded me of Mark Gavin, I don't know why I haven't seen him use it since.

Don't worry we'll get some Gavinesque wing-play from Mehmetti 

Back to Sykes, I personally think he'll be a big success here. Credit to the scouts.

Back on topic, I'm also excited about seeing what Wilson can do, albeit I've been pleased with Tanner recently too.

[Hamdon Mart]

I saw Kane play several times last season for FGR and he is an incredibly exciting player to watch, so attacking. Feel for him right now as his injury has meant City fans haven't seen the best of him  but he will come good, given time. 

[Port Said Red]

Kane Wilson having a knee injury that he will have to manage for the rest of his career does not sound good at all. It has to make you wonder if we will ever see him at his best.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-nigel-pearson-wilson-8133270