Mr Popodopolous Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) Suggestion about Scott . If Raya goes thst will improve Brentford's finances yet further. Finishing 9th in PL won't hurt either. (£30m pre tax profit in 2021-22). They are a relatively progressive side although varies depending on opposition, home away etc. In that respect only they are a bit like Bolton under Big Sam at their best. ie at home vs middling and lower sides go for it more. I digress. They're steadily moving towards a 4-3-3 as a first choice set-up. Could Scott slot into this? I'd argue they haven't fully replaced Eriksen, that creative presence in the middle of the 3- I wonder. Edited June 14, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Suggestion about Scott . If Raya goes thst will improve Brentford's finances yet further. Finishing 9th in PL won't hurt either. (£30m pre tax profit in 2021-22). They are a relatively progressive side although varies depending on opposition, home away etc. In that respect only they are a bit like Bolton under Big Sam at their best. ie at home vs middling and lower sides go for it more. I digress. They're steadily moving towards a 4-3-3 as a first choice set-up. Could Scott slot into this? I'd argue they haven't fully replaced Eriksen, that creative presence in the middle of the 3- I wonder. Brentford have offered 30m for Brennan Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Brentford have offered 30m for Brennan Johnson. Weird, what makes them think he would leave Forest unless they get relegated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Brentford have offered 30m for Brennan Johnson. Not quite the same position but does show they are willing to pay big at times. Scott and Johnson £25-30m each same window however? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not quite the same position but does show they are willing to pay big at times. Scott and Johnson £25-30m each same window however? Yeah sorry Mr P that is what I was alluding to. Can't see them spending big on 2 players in the same window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfctim Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: McAtee looked a very good player whenever I saw Sheff Utd. Probably more of a classic No. 10 than Scott, has the "goals to his game" people crave as well as being very good technically 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 McAtee is a year older though. Although player development isn't always take two players, plot them straight line on a graph against each other. Probably seldom is in fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Brentford have offered 30m for Brennan Johnson. Wow…..didn’t see that coming!!! Going to be lots of twists and turns during the window - as others have said, if Scotty does go, can see it being right at the end of the window. One thing is for sure, if this were to happen, I’d have every confidence in NP and Tinns having a replacement fully lined up…..unlike when we lost Webster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMarch Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 This is going to drag on isn’t it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 I doubt we get £30m for him tbh. Not with 2 years left on his deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltsred14 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Wow…..didn’t see that coming!!! Going to be lots of twists and turns during the window - as others have said, if Scotty does go, can see it being right at the end of the window. One thing is for sure, if this were to happen, I’d have every confidence in NP and Tinns having a replacement fully lined up…..unlike when we lost Webster! I wonder if a deal’s already been done but they won’t announce it until we finish our transfer business. If Scott went now, we’d be paying a premium on any future transfer. As long as Scott is with his new club by preseason, any announcement before then would be pretty irrelevant for a premier league club. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 International media 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Think it will be interesting to see which premier league teams are willing to spend £20+ million on a player that might not be quite ready to hit the ground running in the prem. You could say they could loan him out but it's a big wedge for a lot of the prem teams to be able to do that. They will be after players that can hit the ground running. The better bet if i was Alex would be to follow the Bellingham route and go to Dortmund if they were to show interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davefevs Posted June 15, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 I think he is ready to hit the ground running. 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think he is ready to hit the ground running. Very, puzzled as to why Brighton are seemingly keen to sign Gallagher when Scott seems a far more worthwhile investment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, marcofisher said: Very, puzzled as to why Brighton are seemingly keen to sign Gallagher when Scott seems a far more worthwhile investment. In fairness Gallagher is a proven player at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 15 hours ago, Wiltsred14 said: I wonder if a deal’s already been done but they won’t announce it until we finish our transfer business. If Scott went now, we’d be paying a premium on any future transfer. As long as Scott is with his new club by preseason, any announcement before then would be pretty irrelevant for a premier league club. There is bags of time yet, most teams aren't even back for a month . I think it would be difficult to hide a done deal, but it could be done in principle I suppose. I don't see much movement for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Just checked, at age 19/20, Scott ahead of Gallagher in his development. Gallagher currently 23, will turn 24 in February. His first team break wasn't until 2019-20, age 19.5 ir thereabouts. Scott was first team ready age 17/18. I suppose if you are Brighton however you look at a player age 23, to turn 24- who can still grow but with PL and crucially for them European experience as well as Championsip obviously. Edited June 15, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 I would love it if Scott signed a deal with a £25mill release clause next year. Such a shame that he will likely not be part of this team we are building this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) In respect of Scott, doesn't directly concern but news from Wolves- via Percy who is excellent. Unsure they will be bidding £25m or above for him as it stands. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/06/15/wolves-manager-news-julen-lopetegui-stay-future/ Quote The former Spain and Real Madrid manager’s future had appeared in doubt after he expressed concerns over Wolves’s issues with Financial Fair Play, which will require players to be sold before he can buy new recruits. Though Wolves will still be under some pressure to raise funds, with the futures of captain Ruben Neves, Maximilian Kilman, Nathan Collins and Daniel Podence unclear, Lopetegui is satisfied with the club’s plans. Starting point. Quote Neves is a target for Barcelona while Wolves have already knocked back a £20 million proposal from Brentford for Collins, the Republic of Ireland international. Former captain Conor Coady was at Everton last season on loan but will be reintegrated into the first team while winger Ryan Giles, who impressed on loan at Middlesbrough, will also be given a chance to stake a claim. It is also understood that any new signings will be in the £8-15 million bracket, following a £200 million spend last season under owners Fosun. That alone as it stands rules out Scott to Wolves- well below our aksing price. Quote How has it got to this point? Wolves spent nearly £200 million last season and are under pressure to raise funds to avoid future FFP breaches. With no major sales apart from Morgan Gibbs-White’s £25 million move to Nottingham Forest and Leander Dendoncker’s £12 million switch to Aston Villa, Wolves cannot continue to operate in this way considering their commercial revenue in comparison to bigger clubs. Quite simply, Wolves have to lower their cost base. Lopetegui was informed of the club’s summer strategy towards the end of the season and, clearly, was not expecting it. He has spent the last three weeks reflecting on his future, returning to his home in Spain, and maintained regular contact with Hobbs. The present and the future- Future Financial Information requirements perhaps kicking in. Quote What will Wolves do this summer? Wolves spent over £40 million on Matheus Cunha and Matheus Nunes last season, but will not be paying anywhere near that on transfer fees this time. They intend to pay around the £8-15 million mark, focusing on young talent and with a determination to find unpolished gems. Joao Gomes, a January signing from Flamengo, is the perfect profile of player they will be targeting. While Lopetegui knows the parameters of the project have changed, he is committed. There is undoubtedly pressure on Hobbs and his recruitment team to be creative in the market and build a squad capable of challenging in the Premier League. Yet Scott rather fits that- the young talent, albeit the price is a real mismatch. Quote Could the situation change? This will depend on how much money can be raised through player sales. A number of squad members could depart this summer and it is not inconceivable that upwards of £80 million could be brought in, if they find buyers. Neves is available for around £45 million, while the likes of Podence, Jose Sa and Rayan Ait-Nouri will also be free to go. Collins and Kilman are regarded as key players to Wolves’s future but, equally, have a price. It is still unlikely, however, that Wolves will be spending big money this summer even if they bring in millions of pounds through sales. The brakes need to be applied to balance the books. This is a factor- huge incoming fees and the dial may move albeit they will have to balance that with the cost base not rising again. which may give pause. Worth noting too that the mooted potential £80m+ is still gross not net- the net figure is the profit and will be tied to their current book value. Fee - Current Net Book Value=Profit or Loss on Disposal. Plus net of any sell-on fees. Then new additions although spread out will bring their own costs. Condensed Version Wolves while not maxing out, certainly stretched their credit card quite far which means a move for Scott looks less than likely at our preferred price. Edited June 15, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think he is ready to hit the ground running. Absolutely ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 According to TransferMarkt, which can be a bit dodgy with player values but still, Alex is the most valuable player in the championship. (Discounting the relegated prem teams.) Still very early in the window but I think we will get offers that match or are over our valuation by the time the window ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Unfortunately lads and lasses, he’s of too wolves for 25 million. I thank the gashead for the information he gave me in the pub earlier . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Unfortunately lads and lasses, he’s of too wolves for 25 million. I thank the gashead for the information he gave me in the pub earlier . Did he give you what that converts to in Tillsons? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, View from the Dolman said: Did he give you what that converts to in Tillsons? Nope. Absolutely not. More interested in us . Obsessed *** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 59 minutes ago, George Rs said: According to TransferMarkt, which can be a bit dodgy with player values but still, Alex is the most valuable player in the championship. (Discounting the relegated prem teams.) Still very early in the window but I think we will get offers that match or are over our valuation by the time the window ends. I would like to think so, the market moves quickly though. Can work both ways, moves can come around quickly again or it's the case that sides can think "£25m? Hmm- bit of a risk". Expect Levy to lowball us or try to- at least initially. He has form for it. Reportedly preparing a bid for Maddisonn and Barnes. £50m the pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Did he give you what that converts to in Tillsons? 68 innit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeJohnsonsFlatCap Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Unfortunately lads and lasses, he’s of too wolves for 25 million. I thank the gashead for the information he gave me in the pub earlier . Hope Scott knows Portuguese! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 10 hours ago, LeeJohnsonsFlatCap said: Hope Scott knows Portuguese! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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