Monkeh Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: Yeah for sure, he wouldn’t be the first player to have struggled for game time in his first season at Man City to go on to make a significant contribution in his second. However, If that wasn’t to materialise, he’s find himself at risk of not making the England squad next summer. While Southgate is in charge, his place is in no danger, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: While Southgate is in charge, his place is in no danger, That’s not certain, he plays in a position that we are strong already with decent prospects in the under 21’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: That’s not certain, he plays in a position that we are strong already with decent prospects in the under 21’s. Harry Maguire disagrees with you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Harry Maguire disagrees with you Harry Maguire plays in a position where we haven’t been well stocked with quality or quantity. Another season of not playing and I think Levi Colwill will have taken his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Little bit on Wolves, they must have got themselves into one hell of a hole. I also question whether the Premier League in real time with other clubs who have spent a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: Harry Maguire plays in a position where we haven’t been well stocked with quality or quantity. Another season of not playing and I think Levi Colwill will have taken his place. Disagree especially over the last year or so. Tomori, Stones, Guehi, Smalling, Dunk, Burn(playing LB) and Mings all have been playing more often and arguably better than HM has over the same period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Monkeh said: While Southgate is in charge, his place is in no danger, At the World Cup his preference was for Rice, Henderson and Bellingham. He didn't use a double pivot. With Bellingham injured recently he played Alexander-Arnold not Phillips. And with Maddison and Eze now in the squad Phillips is going to need to be getting games as there's lots of competition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Disagree especially over the last year or so. Tomori, Stones, Guehi, Smalling, Dunk, Burn(playing LB) and Mings all have been playing more often and arguably better than HM has over the same period. Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. Edited June 22, 2023 by Betty Swallocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. Mings has improved under Emery, he was too gung ho before, otherwise I tend to agree. Colwill looks the best prospect to me but will be get enough game time at Chelsea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. I think this is Southgate making England like a club side….Maguire in possession of the shirt, hasn’t done anything to lose it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think this is Southgate making England like a club side….Maguire in possession of the shirt, hasn’t done anything to lose it. Remarkably like Nigel in fact. Now we know where Gareth gets his inspiration! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, chinapig said: Mings has improved under Emery, he was too gung ho before, otherwise I tend to agree. Colwill looks the best prospect to me but will be get enough game time at Chelsea? I hope he does, he looks like a really good prospect. Two strong seasons out on loan, hopefully he nails a position for Chelsea in the season coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think this is Southgate making England like a club side….Maguire in possession of the shirt, hasn’t done anything to lose it. Definitely. I think he made a rod for his own back when he previously said about picking players on form. International games are so far apart that you could have 5/6 defensive partnerships a year if you went on form alone, which doesn’t seem like a great foundation for success. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 http://sportwitness.co.uk/cl-finalists-serious-pursuit-bristol-city-star-transfer-done-e18m/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, RedRoss said: http://sportwitness.co.uk/cl-finalists-serious-pursuit-bristol-city-star-transfer-done-e18m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, RedRoss said: http://sportwitness.co.uk/cl-finalists-serious-pursuit-bristol-city-star-transfer-done-e18m/ Interesting article, but I can't see us taking 18m Euro for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 minute ago, robinforlife2 said: Interesting article, but I can't see us taking 18m Euro for him. No chance. Unless they give us Nicolo Barella as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: Interesting article, but I can't see us taking 18m Euro for him. At least it might get the thread back on course after a dozen posts discussing Maguires selection for England! 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 That is about £15.47m, add £10m and we can talk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, RedRoss said: http://sportwitness.co.uk/cl-finalists-serious-pursuit-bristol-city-star-transfer-done-e18m/ A bid of 18 million came in from anyone, it will be rejected as it doesn't match our valuation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, RedRoss said: http://sportwitness.co.uk/cl-finalists-serious-pursuit-bristol-city-star-transfer-done-e18m/ Number of adverts passes the BS Ratio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Taz said: Even better if they sign Thomas Muller as well.... Just imagine the sponsorship deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Betty Swallocks said: Don’t think any of them aside from Stones have done well enough to oust Maguire, he’s in possession of the shirt and has always been good playing for England. I get picking players on form etc etc but I think centre back is high up in the positions that you need more tried and trusted players. Same as goalkeeper, which is why Pickford is firmly the no 1. Which I think is fine for a time. Why I don’t complain about Pickford because he is playing week in and week out. Not sure it sends a great message to the younger players trying to break through to the squad that no matter how well you do Maguire is still in. Idk my opinion anyway. I agree about more tried and trusted but many of the ones I have named are plenty tried and trusted for their clubs. Running the risk of missing out on better just because he come in at the right time. England hasn’t won anything and come up short a few times now in recent years. So I don’t see how you can just say ok we won’t look to upgrade when there are options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said: Not sure it sends a great message to the younger players trying to break through to the squad that no matter how well you do Maguire is still in. The message is “be better”! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 For what it's worth, Southgate did say during the recent international period that the Maguire situation isn't ideal and can't go on indefinitely. And I suspect the player is well aware of that too, he'll move if United can get a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldred2 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 16 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Have you gone off cement puns, then ? Well yes I have...I am waiting on a job application for a cement mixer driver, haven't heard anything concrete yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Northern Red said: For what it's worth, Southgate did say during the recent international period that the Maguire situation isn't ideal and can't go on indefinitely. And I suspect the player is well aware of that too, he'll move if United can get a replacement. And still it goes on! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Why would we sell him for less just because it’s Inter? Doesn’t make sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldred2 Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 Great player but his lack of goals and assists is a factor I am sure for some who prefer stats. Beliieve there is a good chance he will be here for another season which will further boost his value, and who knows we might just fluke the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, Leveller said: At least it might get the thread back on course after a dozen posts discussing Maguires selection for England! That's not set in stone. (Sorry Stevie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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