BCFCAL Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Benarous with the highest score on the fitness test yesterday - if he can stay fit and play like the glimpses we seen, a midfield of James/Naismith, Scott and Benarous would be very nice in my eyes! 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I've said all along that I can't see any EPL club paying 25m for Scott, I think its a figure derived to either keep him here or get over the odds for him if we have to lose him imo. If he does go, I think it'll be because Scott and/or his agent is pushing for it and it'll be for a lot less than 25m. Hope he stays for another season, could make a difference to where we end up. I think we'll accept slightly less. We should hold out for as much as possible. Wouldnt surprise me if he goes in the last couple of days of the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Will be interesting to see if West Ham are serious as they've just guaranteed themselves £100m from Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, Sir Geoff said: Will be interesting to see if West Ham are serious as they've just guaranteed themselves £100m from Arsenal. Rejected the bid. Think they want £120m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Rejected the bid. Think they want £120m. Man City have pulled out. Just being greedy now. £100 m plus £5m in add ons is about right. He's not worth more than Jude Bellingham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Rejected the bid. Think they want £120m. Reports I have seen say that they are not happy with the structure of the bid, ie Arsenal want to pay the guaranteed amount over 5 years. Man City have dropped out so there is no bidding war. West Ham are now said to be interested in Palhinha, Zakaria, Onana and Ward-Prowse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Man City have pulled out. Just being greedy now. £100 m plus £5m in add ons is about right. He's not worth more than Jude Bellingham. No he isn’t. West Ham are very much in the box seats here. Arsenal are desperate to sign him and are going all out to get him, so West Ham can effectively dictate the terms. Unless they completely over cook it they will get what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: No he isn’t. West Ham are very much in the box seats here. Arsenal are desperate to sign him and are going all out to get him, so West Ham can effectively dictate the terms. Unless they completely over cook it they will get what they want. Arsenal want him as Partey is off to Saudi I assume they know how much for and what they have to play with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Man City have pulled out. Just being greedy now. £100 m plus £5m in add ons is about right. He's not worth more than Jude Bellingham. That's no different to us with Scott though, West ham have a valuation if a team fails to meet that, he remains a west ham player 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Monkeh said: That's no different to us with Scott though, West ham have a valuation if a team fails to meet that, he remains a west ham player I dont disagree with your sentiment, although it has always appeared (publicly at least) that £100m would do the deal. In that respect Arsenal knew roughly what it would take and should just gone in with £100m to start with to get the deal done quickly. Now it's got messy in the past 24 hours with Man City entering the race then pulling out after Arsenal upped there bid. I just don't see us acting in that way. We have a valuation on Scott and if someone phones up tomorrow and meets that valuation, he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheReds Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Also wonder if Spurs signing Maddison means they now won't be in the running anymore for Scott. Fans want him to be a backup for any Maddison injuries, but we know how Scott feels about game time with any potential moves. Edited June 28, 2023 by UpTheReds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Arsenal want him as Partey is off to Saudi I assume they know how much for and what they have to play with Oh I agree on that, not suggesting that they will go to £150m or anything. What I am suggesting is that they have set their stall out and it’s difficult to row back now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: I dont disagree with your sentiment, although it has always appeared (publicly at least) that £100m would do the deal. In that respect Arsenal knew roughly what it would take and should just gone in with £100m to start with to get the deal done quickly. Now it's got messy in the past 24 hours with Man City entering the race then pulling out after Arsenal upped there bid. I just don't see us acting in that way. We have a valuation on Scott and if someone phones up tomorrow and meets that valuation, he's gone. West ham have never publicly said, we want 100m, West ham have never actually put a valuation on rice, Where as city have with Scott, Rice is West hams best player club and team captain an England International and under contract, If they say 100m isn't enough then it isn't enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 52 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Arsenal want him as Partey is off to Saudi I assume they know how much for and what they have to play with That’s a risk. Thought the Saudis take a hard line on sex offenders, if convicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Henry said: That’s a risk. Thought the Saudis take a hard line on sex offenders, if convicted. I know what you’re chatting, nothings gone through the courts yet has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 hours ago, BCFCAL said: Benarous with the highest score on the fitness test yesterday - if he can stay fit and play like the glimpses we seen, a midfield of James/Naismith, Scott and Benarous would be very nice in my eyes! Such a shame with his injuries i thought he looked a real talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, BCFCAL said: Benarous with the highest score on the fitness test yesterday - if he can stay fit and play like the glimpses we seen, a midfield of James/Naismith, Scott and Benarous would be very nice in my eyes! In the latest Uncut video, Benarous is not included with the 1st team for the full contact drill shown from 12:20 onwards. He's with the U21s and, even then, is keeping himself out of harm's way rather than being in the thick of it. This would suggest he's some way short of a full return to action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, ScottishRed said: No he isn’t. West Ham are very much in the box seats here. Arsenal are desperate to sign him and are going all out to get him, so West Ham can effectively dictate the terms. Unless they completely over cook it they will get what they want. Nicely played by Man City who forced Arsenal to pay a higher fee . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Am I the only one that is disappointed in Rice preferring Arsenal over Man City? For England, the best outcome is that Rice plays for Man City, being coached by Pep. Without a doubt Pep would make him a better player than Arteta would. At Man City he will be challenging for the league every season and playing in huge games and huge Cup finals. That can only be good for England. To me it just feels as if he prefers Arsenal as its a safe move for him. He doesn't have to move out of London and doesn't have to challenge himself as he will walk into the Arsenal side. If I was Southgate I'd be on the phone to him urging him to join Man City. I think the fact Man City made one bid and then walked away was probably because they were informed he didn't really want to join them. I don't know it just feels like he's not backing himself and instead is playing it safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Am I the only one that is disappointed in Rice preferring Arsenal over Man City? For England, the best outcome is that Rice plays for Man City, being coached by Pep. Without a doubt Pep would make him a better player than Arteta would. At Man City he will be challenging for the league every season and playing in huge games and huge Cup finals. That can only be good for England. To me it just feels as if he prefers Arsenal as its a safe move for him. He doesn't have to move out of London and doesn't have to challenge himself as he will walk into the Arsenal side. If I was Southgate I'd be on the phone to him urging him to join Man City. I think the fact Man City made one bid and then walked away was probably because they were informed he didn't really want to join them. I don't know it just feels like he's not backing himself and instead is playing it safe. Did you not notice arsenal challenging for the title last season, with a young side that's only going to get better?, 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Did you not notice arsenal challenging for the title last season, with a young side that's only going to get better?, And Bukayo Saka doesn't seem to have done too badly out of being coached by Arteta rather than Pep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Am I the only one that is disappointed in Rice preferring Arsenal over Man City? For England, the best outcome is that Rice plays for Man City, being coached by Pep. Without a doubt Pep would make him a better player than Arteta would. At Man City he will be challenging for the league every season and playing in huge games and huge Cup finals. That can only be good for England. To me it just feels as if he prefers Arsenal as its a safe move for him. He doesn't have to move out of London and doesn't have to challenge himself as he will walk into the Arsenal side. If I was Southgate I'd be on the phone to him urging him to join Man City. I think the fact Man City made one bid and then walked away was probably because they were informed he didn't really want to join them. I don't know it just feels like he's not backing himself and instead is playing it safe. Rice will get more minutes at Arsenal than he would at Man City. Arsenal is the better club for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Did you not notice arsenal challenging for the title last season, with a young side that's only going to get better?, I noticed that they challenged for a title for one season in a season where the other big clubs were shite. They didn't have any Champions league football either. For me at present they are a club that challenges for the top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ecko said: Rice will get more minutes at Arsenal than he would at Man City. Arsenal is the better club for England. Thats what I mean, its a safe move for him. Nah I don't think playing every minute for a club that are in and around the top 6 is better for England than going to Man City and earning his place. Will Arsenal be challenging for every competition going? Highly doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Thats what I mean, its a safe move for him. Nah I don't think playing every minute for a club that are in and around the top 6 is better for England than going to Man City and earning his place. Will Arsenal be challenging for every competition going? Highly doubtful. So, you'd rather Rice sit on the bench at Man City and career stall like kelvin Phillips then go to Arsenal play 40 odd games and continue to improve..... Tell me your a man City fan without saying your a man City fan....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Monkeh said: So, you'd rather Rice sit on the bench at Man City and career stall like kelvin Phillips then go to Arsenal play 40 odd games and continue to improve..... Tell me your a man City fan without saying your a man City fan....... Tell me you're a Arsenal fan without telling me you're an Arsenal fan..... Phillips has had a injury hit season. Many players join Man City and only play the odd games in their first season and then go on to be important 1st team players. If he doesn't back himself to get into Man City's team then for me he's not got the right minerals to play for the national team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Thats what I mean, its a safe move for him. Nah I don't think playing every minute for a club that are in and around the top 6 is better for England than going to Man City and earning his place. Will Arsenal be challenging for every competition going? Highly doubtful. Should Saka be agitating for a move to Man City given your logic? Or indeed any other member of the England squad who doesn't already play for them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, chinapig said: Should Saka be agitating for a move to Man City given your logic? Or indeed any other member of the England squad who doesn't already play for them? If a Man City, Real, Barca etc came in for him and he rejected it because its safe to stay at Arsenal then I'd question that too. The national team needs players playing at very highest level and in the very biggest games. Maybe then we won't keep choking big games. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: If he doesn't back himself to get into Man City's team then for me he's not got the right minerals to play for the national team. You'd better let Southgate know then. Might be too late though, he already has 41 caps! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Why is this topic hot again... i should know better but there is still no change . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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