Kane wilson

[Cityboy1954]

14 hours ago, East Londoner said:

I’d have liked to have seen him replace Sykes and given 45-60 minutes 

Yes especially as weinmann isn't performing .

[slartibartfast]

Another Sammy Smod ?

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

5 hours ago, redkev said:

I was just responding to someone saying why risk him ,

 If he’s still not fit and not liable to be used put someone on the bench who is fit , 

I totally agree with everybody though at the moment Tanner is going to take some shifting 

But if Tanner takes a bump you have to have KW on the bench.  

[Gol]

if Luton don’t go up I can see him going there in the summer currently got Drammeh on loan and Edwards will know him from FGR

[Taz]

8 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

Another Sammy Smod ?

What you mean a player that we let go because we sign about 3 or 4 players for the same position, gets games elsewhere then returns to the same level looking a very decent player?

He'll be fine.

[redapple]

Tanner has been outstanding and consistent at RB. Simple as that.

[slartibartfast]

14 hours ago, Taz said:

What you mean a player that we let go because we sign about 3 or 4 players for the same position, gets games elsewhere then returns to the same level looking a very decent player?

He'll be fine.

yes

[Nogbad the Bad]

As others have mentioned the key thing Nige has repeatedly said about Wilson's injury is it's one he'll have to manage for the rest of his career.

Not just any old injury then, the potential to reoccur if he doesn't constantly maintain a high level of fitness.

He's not reached that level of fitness yet for whatever reason but the player's career is potentially at stake here so aiming to be 100% fit in August, with a personal fitness regime tailored to maintain that fitness is the sensible, and perhaps only, way forward.

[pride of the west]

In the half time kick about he looked to be carrying a bit of timber to me

[hinsleburg]

Lets also not forget one of the other big factors here is us switching from a back 5 to a back 4

When we signed Wilson he was pitched as a specialist Wing Back, not quite good enough defensively to play in a 4 at RB and not as effective on the Wing. I would hope we've spent the time he's been injured and not playing to try and improve his defensive tactical awareness so he can play in a 4 if needed as an orthodox RB. Wing back is also not a position you can play when not 100%, it's a killer!

So if he's not fully fit or match sharp the last thing we want to do is chuck him into a position where he isn't quite as comfortable. Think it's different when Sykes plays there as whilst not comfortable he's adapted to the level and can cope mentally, Wilson has had a bigger jump and isn't there yet!

Be interesting to see what happens to him in the summer, if we are sticking with the back 4 I don't see him dislodging Tanner at all!

[Super]

14 hours ago, redapple said:

Tanner has been outstanding and consistent at RB. Simple as that.

You are correct but as we have nothing to play for would make sense to give some of the fringe players / youngsters some game time before the end of the season.

[Davefevs]

27 minutes ago, hinsleburg said:

Lets also not forget one of the other big factors here is us switching from a back 5 to a back 4

When we signed Wilson he was pitched as a specialist Wing Back, not quite good enough defensively to play in a 4 at RB and not as effective on the Wing. I would hope we've spent the time he's been injured and not playing to try and improve his defensive tactical awareness so he can play in a 4 if needed as an orthodox RB. Wing back is also not a position you can play when not 100%, it's a killer!

So if he's not fully fit or match sharp the last thing we want to do is chuck him into a position where he isn't quite as comfortable. Think it's different when Sykes plays there as whilst not comfortable he's adapted to the level and can cope mentally, Wilson has had a bigger jump and isn't there yet!

Be interesting to see what happens to him in the summer, if we are sticking with the back 4 I don't see him dislodging Tanner at all!

In fairness, until last season, Wilson had played most of his football as a conventional RB, so he knows the role.  It was however his eye-catching performances for FGR at RWB that got him his move.  The system really suited him and Cadden (now Barnsley).

Much will depend on what we want from our RBs in the future.  It’s quite possible for our FBs to be expansive in a back 4 system too.  I don’t think playing a back 4 rules him out.  Although Tanner is making a very good fist of making the no2 shirt his.

[GrahamC]

28 minutes ago, Super said:

You are correct but as we have nothing to play for would make sense to give some of the fringe players / youngsters some game time before the end of the season.

But what is the value in playing Wilson over Tanner, when both of them are 23?

George has only started just 28 games at this level in his career & is playing well, so I really can’t see any point to leaving him out, this isn’t like playing Taylor-Clarke instead of King, is it?

[TDarwall]

I'm sure I've read that Kane can play left back so I wouldn't be amazed if he replaces Jay for some of the remaining games.

[Davefevs]

21 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

I'm sure I've read that Kane can play left back so I wouldn't be amazed if he replaces Jay for some of the remaining games.

He has, as has Tanner.

I suggested either on here or twitter that it might be worth switching Tanner to LB at some point to open up RB for Wilson….or other way around.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, pride of the west said:

In the half time kick about he looked to be carrying a bit of timber to me

Tossing the caber?

[SecretSam]

On 01/04/2023 at 22:15, Harry said:

He’s just come back from a long term knee injury. We’ve got nothing to play for. Why rush him back and risk it? 
I don’t think there’s any more to it than that. 

This. Might as well let him get fully fit and come back firing next season. He's still young, and GT will benefit from minutes without pressure.

[Nogbad the Bad]

7 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

This. Might as well let him get fully fit and come back firing next season. He's still young, and GT will benefit from minutes without pressure.

Not Nige's view.

He's stated he wants a squad so competitive that every player is under constant pressure to perform to keep his place.

[Major Isewater]

On 02/04/2023 at 11:12, Tom said:

got ripped for it

Caesarean ? 

[Major Isewater]

2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

others have mentioned the key thing Nige has repeatedly said about Wilson's injury is it's one he'll have to manage for the rest of his career.

What sort of injury would that be? Is it lack of cartilage where he’ll need injections or to keep his quads at peak level to ease pressure on the joint ? 

[Clutton Caveman]

On 01/04/2023 at 20:02, Davefevs said:

I thought he might get some today too.  I’d consider him over Dasilva, or move Tanner over and play Wilson RB.

Playing a right footed player at left back normally disrupts distribution down that side

[Davefevs]

54 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Is it lack of cartilage

That’s my guess, ie he had some removed as part of the op that was necessary…but rather than injections per se (although it could be exactly that) it might be just strengthening the muscles (further) around the knee to avoid causing strains on the MCL / LCL.

[Davefevs]

13 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said:

Playing a right footed player at left back normally disrupts distribution down that side

It can indeed.  It can also open up passing infield, driving infield too.  Pros and cons I guess.

[SecretSam]

1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Not Nige's view.

He's stated he wants a squad so competitive that every player is under constant pressure to perform to keep his place.

I meant pressure in terms of results 

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It can indeed.  It can also open up passing infield, driving infield too.  Pros and cons I guess.

Ahem...Paolo Maldini...

[LondonBristolian]

I find it surprising he's not been involved a bit more from the bench and do get where the OP is coming from. However one thing that strikes me is that Tanner - another signing from League Two - was in a similar position last season. He got a handful of games, got an injury and - whilst I can't recall when he was fit - he wasn't really in the picture for the rest of the season and I don't think most of us saw him as more than a back-up this year. But he turned it around impressively and you'd hope Wilson would look at the likes of Tanner or Vyner and take on board what he needs to do once fit to work his way into the picture. 

In all honesty, I think most of us were so impressed by his stats in the League Two that we underestimated the step up in quality to the Championship and it could be that he did the same. 

[Davefevs]

21 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I find it surprising he's not been involved a bit more from the bench and do get where the OP is coming from. However one thing that strikes me is that Tanner - another signing from League Two - was in a similar position last season. He got a handful of games, got an injury and - whilst I can't recall when he was fit - he wasn't really in the picture for the rest of the season and I don't think most of us saw him as more than a back-up this year. But he turned it around impressively and you'd hope Wilson would look at the likes of Tanner or Vyner and take on board what he needs to do once fit to work his way into the picture. 

In all honesty, I think most of us were so impressed by his stats in the League Two that we underestimated the step up in quality to the Championship and it could be that he did the same. 

Get the impression he’s giving him a bit of the old “Nige tough love” like Atkinson and Pring…reminding him of the levels required.

[ProfitInMyPocket]

Tanner been consistent this season and improving steadily, when Wilson gets the chance to come in - he has to take it. Simple as that really.

[Merrick's Marvels]

7 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

Tanner been consistent this season and improving steadily, when Wilson gets the chance to come in - he has to take it. Simple as that really.

Yep, people fretting when actually this is just what we want - competition for places. 

[redkev]

No  Wilson on the bench , Think Nige is giving him the royal kick up the backside aka pring & Atkinson ,

surely he has to be fit now , obviously not performing in training or working hard enough .

don’t get me wrong he ain’t shifting Tanner at the moment but he should be getting minutes somewhere

[And Its Smith]

2 minutes ago, redkev said:

No  Wilson on the bench , Think Nige is giving him the royal kick up the backside aka pring & Atkinson ,

surely he has to be fit now , obviously not performing in training or working hard enough .

don’t get me wrong he ain’t shifting Tanner at the moment but he should be getting minutes somewhere

I wouldn’t say it was obvious. Could have a niggle