freezer Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 Got my asparagus for dinner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 I'm half Scot so only celebrating it for 12 hours 27 minutes ago, Selred said: Got my asparagus for dinner! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 I shall have some nice English ale later to celebrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 53 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said: I'm half Scot so only celebrating it for 12 hours Which half ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, BigTone said: Which half ? The imagine I have in my mind is top half pinstripe jacket, shirt, tie bowler, umbrella, newspaper and briefcase. Bottom half kilt and sporran. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 23, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 Cucumber sandwiches for me GSTK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, phantom said: Cucumber sandwiches for me GSTK And lashings of ginger beer ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LondonBristolian Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, southside said: To be fair, that’s true of pretty much all Patron Saints. There aren’t many countries with a Patron Saint who is directed connected to the country for the simple reason it didn’t have a lot to do with how and why Patron Saints tended to be chosen in the first place… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, southside said: Bit inaccurate that meme. A) There was no such place as Turkey when he was around. His dad was from Greek-speaking Anatolia, now part of Turkey. B) There was no such place as Syria when he was around. His mum was from majority-Greek speaking Capodoccia, now part of Syria. C) He died in Lodd, in what is now Israel. The entirity of Israel, as well as Palestine, Lebanon and parts of Syria was called Palestina by the Greeks. D) He was a Roman citizen (and soldier) but not a Roman. E) He is revered in Islam as Jurjis, but not in Judaism. No Christian saints are considered prophets in Judaism. F) He may very well not have existed. There doesn't appear to have been any mention of him until nearly two centuries after his alleged death. The dragon myth is not mentioned for another 5 centuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, southside said: I don't like these memes. They are the counter argument to the notion that St George mainly the flag is some sort of logo for the right, or nationalist movements. Just celibate the day if you wish and try not to give any thought to the idiots who hijack the flag. It always reminds me of the idiots in Radstock who took down the English flag as it might offend Muslims. Own you flag and don't be ashamed of it, be ashamed of people who use it as a way to justify their hateful views. Edited April 23, 2023 by Lorenzos Only Goal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 According to some St Edmund is the 'real' patron saint of England, though as he was only king of East Anglia, this claim must be regarded as dubious. Still, he was a clever bloke. After his head was chopped off by Vikings it cried out "here, here, I'm over here" to his followers who went looking for it the next day. How many kings have managed that?! His Saint's Day is in November, and we need a few more bank holidays at that end of the year. If we accept, we only adopted the flag of St George in exchange for letting English/French ships shelter in Genoa prior to the Third Crusade, then maybe we ought to adopt St Edmund's flag? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Can a king also be a patron saint? Although not technically the first king of England, Alfred the Great largely paved the way to a united England. I can't say I know much at all about St George (beyond Two Mile Hill !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said: Can a king also be a patron saint? Although not technically the first king of England, Alfred the Great largely paved the way to a united England. I can't say I know much at all about St George (beyond Two Mile Hill !) I don't think there are any "rules" so to speak. St Edmund does at least have the advantage of living in England and definitely existing. His flag's a bit tricky though. Would play havoc with the Union Flag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 25, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 I always find it somewhat intriguing how this debate always comes up on St George's Day, yet never gets mentioned at any other patron saint days for other UK countries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Celebrated with a few pints of Moretti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, phantom said: I always find it somewhat intriguing how this debate always comes up on St George's Day, yet never gets mentioned at any other patron saint days for other UK countries St David was Welsh, as was St Patrick, but he did reside in Ireland. St Andrew as you probably know, was one of the Twelve apostles and Scotland's connection to him is said to be when relics (bones) of the saint were taken (centuries after his death) to a church in what is now called St Andrews. The Scottish flag, is the original flag of the town. David and Patrick probably existed, Andrew and George, well, the jury is out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I don't think there are any "rules" so to speak. St Edmund does at least have the advantage of living in England and definitely existing. His flag's a bit tricky though. Would play havoc with the Union Flag. Didn't realise he was born in what now is Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, spudski said: Didn't realise he was born in what now is Germany. Don't think he would have been. We don't know much about him, but Angles would've been fairly well established in the UK for 300+ years and separate from their North German/Friesian/Danish ancestry by that time. Athelstan, about 60 years later, might be called the first King of England. Certainly, he's the first person to style himself as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Happy? …after what he did to that poor dragon? ….cruel is what it is …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Don't think he would have been. We don't know much about him, but Angles would've been fairly well established in the UK for 300+ years and separate from their North German/Friesian/Danish ancestry by that time. Athelstan, about 60 years later, might be called the first King of England. Certainly, he's the first person to style himself as such. Only going by what I've read online. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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