Man City v Arsenal

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said:

They shouldn’t have been anywhere near Man City at this point. To make the title race interesting against this City side is a hell of an effort from Arsenal, miles ahead of expectation, so I think “bottling it” is unfair.

If you’re criticising Arsenal for not being further ahead of Man City, then you should be equally critical of Man City for not dominating the league like they probably should have done.

I think it is fair to say they've bottled it. 2 nil up against Liverpool and they drew, 2 nil up against West Ham and again they drew and then drew 3-3 with Southampton when the win was there for the taking. They've not shown up tonight either. If that's not bottling it, I don't know what is.

City can sometimes start slow but have the ability of being able to go on incredible runs, everyone knows that. 

Arsenals problem is they thought they had it won by Christmas and then as soon as City put some pressure on them, they've bottled it.

[Kid in the Riot]

2 minutes ago, Henry said:

Don’t disagree they’ve done well and massively overachieved against their seasons aims.

However if you let 3 goals in, at home, to Southampton then you’ve bottled it.

Because of one stat, they've bottled it?

2 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I genuinely can’t see how they can say it’s been a good season after what has happened over recent weeks, regardless of what they’re aim at the start of the season was.  Things change as a season progresses and they won’t have a better chance of winning the league again for many a year.

Dropped points vs Liverpool and West Ham from winning positions and then against Southampton. It’s the exact definition of bottled it.

Incredible. 

[Super]

1 minute ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I genuinely can’t see how they can say it’s been a good season after what has happened over recent weeks, regardless of what they’re aim at the start of the season was.  Things change as a season progresses and they won’t have a better chance of winning the league again for many a year.

Dropped points vs Liverpool and West Ham from winning positions and then against Southampton. It’s the exact definition of bottled it.

Saka's penalty miss at West ham was the turning point. They win that they beat Southampton then defeat tonight would still leave them in with a shout.

[Henry]

1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Because of one stat, they've bottled it?

Incredible. 

No. They’ve bottled it because they’ve been top for most of the season and they’ve dropped points to teams at the bottom.

[Bristol Oil Services]

5 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I genuinely can’t see how they can say it’s been a good season after what has happened over recent weeks, regardless of what they’re aim at the start of the season was.  Things change as a season progresses and they won’t have a better chance of winning the league again for many a year.

Dropped points vs Liverpool and West Ham from winning positions and then against Southampton. It’s the exact definition of bottled it.

They're missing their centre half, at the business-end of the season. Man City have struggled without their first choice cbs in the past, and Liverpool are mediocre now Van Dijk is merely average.

What is they say about defences and League titles? 

[Henry]

3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Did Man City “bottle it” when they lost at home to Brentford earlier in the season?

No, because they’ve basically won the league.

[cityexile]

Well, the good news.

After six years of waiting…Arsenal have just qualified for the Champions League. With other matches finished tonight they now cannot finish outside the top four.

I am sure they will go home thrilled.

[Kid in the Riot]

1 minute ago, Henry said:

No, because they’ve basically won the league.

And you think Arsenal had basically won it too. Very naive. 

[Kid in the Riot]

That Arsenal end looks pretty happy for a club that's "bottled it" apparently. 

[Super]

8 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

They're missing their centre half, at the business-end of the season. Man City have struggled without their first choice cbs in the past, and Liverpool are mediocre now Van Dijk is merely average.

What is they say about defences and League titles? 

I wish we had somebody average like VVD

[formerly known as ivan]

6 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

They're missing their centre half, at the business-end of the season. Man City have struggled without their first choice cbs in the past, and Liverpool are mediocre now Van Dijk is merely average.

What is they say about defences and League titles? 

Yes they have been without a key player but they have still thrown away 6 points in the last three games they should have won. It’s not even a case of ‘could have gone into tonights game with an 11 point lead’, it’s ‘should have gone into tonight’s game with an 11 point lead’!

Plus I’m pretty sure they spent £20m on a centre back in January yet have continued to play Holding who is clearly out of his depth at this level. That’s on Arteta!

[Bristol Oil Services]

Just now, Super said:

I wish we had somebody average like VVD

Missing the point there, Soup

[Super]

Game on.......

[Henry]

10 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

And you think Arsenal had basically won it too. Very naive. 

Do I?

[Super]

Finally gets his goal.

[cityexile]

Sheff Utd promoted.

[AppyDAZE]

Haaland. ******* love the hair. So unique, so cool, so brilliant. Hats off to you young man. A joy to watch.

Total viking.

Edited April 26, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[One Team]

49 now, incredible!

[Kid in the Riot]

5 minutes ago, Henry said:

Do I?

In order to bottle something, you have to be very close to attaining it. My argument is Arsenal have never been in a position where they've had anything like one hand on the trophy. 

I've can't recall seeing/hearing anyone saying confidently that Arsenal were going to win the title. 

[Gazred]

Haaland. More goals than healthy hair follicles, and that's saying something.

[Super]

Just now, Kid in the Riot said:

In order to bottle something, you have to be very close to attaining it. My argument is Arsenal have never been in a position where they've had anything like one hand on the trophy. 

I've can't recall seeing/hearing anyone saying confidently that Arsenal were going to win the title. 

Sure Piers Morgan did!

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

In order to bottle something, you have to be very close to attaining it. My argument is Arsenal have never been in a position where they've had anything like one hand on the trophy. 

I've can't recall seeing/hearing anyone saying confidently that Arsenal were going to win the title. 

4 games ago, at the buisness end of the season they had 1 hand on the trophy! 

They then went on to win 0 games out of them 4. 

They had just 9 games left to play and they have absolutely bottled it.

[cityexile]

2 minutes ago, One Team said:

49 now, incredible!

To put Ronaldo and Messi achievements in to context, was reading somewhere that he needs to score 50 a season until something like 2033 to match them. I mean, he could, but it is still outrageous.

[AppyDAZE]

Haaland.. a breath of fresh hair

[W-S-M Seagull]

That was incredibly embarrassing from Arsenal. Probably one of City's easiest wins of the season.

[cityexile]

Just now, W-S-M Seagull said:

4 games ago, at the buisness end of the season they had 1 hand on the trophy! 

They then went on to win 0 games out of them 4. 

They had just 9 games left to play and they have absolutely bottled it.

No one is arguing their form recently is poor. West Ham and Southampton were real killer blows. It is clear they have nowhere near the squad depth of Man City at the business end of the season. I don’t see it as a lack of bottle, just an over achieving team not being good enough.

Is your second team Sours?

[formerly known as ivan]

5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

In order to bottle something, you have to be very close to attaining it. My argument is Arsenal have never been in a position where they've had anything like one hand on the trophy. 

I've can't recall seeing/hearing anyone saying confidently that Arsenal were going to win the title. 

The joys of football is the difference in opinions I guess..

2-0 up vs Liverpool, 2-0 vs West Ham, 3-3 draw vs Southampton at home. If that isn’t bottling it I don’t know what is.

Purely out of interest now, if Man City failed to win the league from here on in, do you think they would have bottled it? Do you think they have one hand on the trophy now even though they have been in second place most the season and are still two points off Arsenal after tonight?

[MarcusX]

46 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Is that not  handball from Haaland in the area? Clearly moves body and arm towards the shot and ball hits his arm. Commentators just dismissed it "arms were by his body". 

Shirt sleeve is the guide now isn’t it?

[Rob k]

So, at the end of the season, Arsenal finish 2nd and Man United third but they have won a final and in the FA Cup final? Who’s had the better season? 
 

[wayne allisons tongues]

Arsenal have struggled for a while now but were grinding out results 2 4 at Villa late goals and 3 2 Bournemouth after being 2 0 down. Just seems there much has started to run out, can’t keep giving teams leads and expect to win.