Super Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Apparently Sky have spoken to him regarding his comment about the Son tackle on Gakpo at the weekend Tyler compared the incident to something you might see in "martial arts" and his words were met with backlash by some, who deemed his words to be racist, owing to Son's Asian heritage. Clearly a nothing comment which some have jumped on. Ridiculous. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 They probably just had a quiet word about the way it could have been perceived. He probably had no thought about who the player was. Respectfully, let’s not start another culture wars discussion….. nothing new ever gets said 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Taz Posted May 2, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 People need to get a life if they are "offended" by something like that. 37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Percy Pig said: They should be more concerned over how his commentary was so limp and lifeless in what will be go down as one the crazier finishes to a game in Prem history. Totally sucked the life out of a huge moment. He's so far past being a good commentator now it's laughable. He's miles better than the crap on sky last night! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, steveybadger said: They probably just had a quiet word about the way it could have been perceived. He probably had no thought about who the player was. Respectfully, let’s not start another culture wars discussion….. nothing new ever gets said Exactly. It’s a non-story. He said something slightly careless, Sky had a quiet word and that is the end of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Exactly. It’s a non-story. He said something slightly careless, Sky had a quiet word and that is the end of it. You can imagine the type of people that found his comment racist. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, Percy Pig said: They should be more concerned over how his commentary was so limp and lifeless in what will be go down as one the crazier finishes to a game in Prem history. Totally sucked the life out of a huge moment. He's so far past being a good commentator now it's laughable. Yeah agree. Should really be apologising for how boring he is... Unless it's Man United of course. 17 minutes ago, frenchred said: He's miles better than the crap on sky last night! Is that because the commentator was a woman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Super said: You can imagine the type of people that found his comment racist. I can't. Please describe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, frenchred said: He's miles better than the crap on sky last night! Instead of "crap", why not say "woman"? Because that's what you meant, isn't it?? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 I like Martin Tyler, he’s had a fantastic career in commentary but if I was Sky, I would be looking to change next season. He is sadly past it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: I can't. Please describe. let's go with sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Super said: You can imagine the type of people that found his comment racist. No easier than I can imagine the type of people who are upset that a national sports broadcaster had a quiet word with one of their team about being considerate in their language. There is no need at all to turn this into any more than it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, LondonBristolian said: No easier than I can imagine the type of people who are upset that a national sports broadcaster had a quiet word with one of their team about being considerate in their language. There is no need at all to turn this into any more than it is. Fair enough i just have no idea why they even had a quiet word. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Super said: let's go with sad. Hand wringers that clamber up to their moral high ground by getting offended on other peoples behalf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Super said: Fair enough i just have no idea why they even had a quiet word. Because it's unconscious bias? Just because he's Asian, why should he be dubbed with martial art comments? It's crass and lazy. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, frenchred said: He's miles better than the crap on sky last night! I had to watch that with the volume on 1. Could hardly hear the commentator and Alan Smith came across with his usual nonsense. Luckily my Mrs didn't ask why I had the sound almost off, otherwise that would have been yet another debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Selred said: Because it's unconscious bias? Just because he's Asian, why should he be dubbed with martial art comments? It's crass and lazy. Would you consider it unconscious bias if he likened a hoo-haa involving Lucas Moura or Richarlison as a bit of Jiu-Jitsu? No, of course you bloody wouldn’t. Edited May 2, 2023 by Mr Hankey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReds Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Selred said: Because it's unconscious bias? Just because he's Asian, why should he be dubbed with martial art comments? It's crass and lazy. Good grief. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said: Would you consider it unconscious bias if he likened a hoo-haa involving Lucas Moura or Richarlison as a bit of Jiu-Jitsu? No, of course you bloody wouldn’t. But he didn't say that, so not sure of the relevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: I had to watch that with the volume on 1. Could hardly hear the commentator and Alan Smith came across with his usual nonsense. Luckily my Mrs didn't ask why I had the sound almost off, otherwise that would have been yet another debate. I actually think Pien Meulensteen & Alan Smith are a decent commentary duo, much better than any shite that involves Andy Hinchcliffe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said: Would you consider it unconscious bias if he likened a hoo-haa involving Lucas Moura or Richarlison as a bit of Jiu-Jitsu? No, of course you bloody wouldn’t. What are the circumstances in which you perceive that might happen? In your experience, are references to being fond of martial arts common when talking about Brazilians? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Selred said: Because it's unconscious bias? Just because he's Asian, why should he be dubbed with martial art comments? It's crass and lazy. That’s unconscious bias from you too. Perhaps Martin Tyler saw one person tackle another person and commented how he perceived the tackle. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 minute ago, David Brent said: That’s unconscious bias from you too. Perhaps Martin Tyler saw one person tackle another person and commented how he perceived the tackle. How is that unconscious bias from me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, 2015 said: Yeah agree. Should really be apologising for how boring he is... Unless it's Man United of course. Is that because the commentator was a woman? Yes 31 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Instead of "crap", why not say "woman"? Because that's what you meant, isn't it?? Yes 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: I had to watch that with the volume on 1. Could hardly hear the commentator and Alan Smith came across with his usual nonsense. Luckily my Mrs didn't ask why I had the sound almost off, otherwise that would have been yet another debate. I put bein sport on, was much more to my liking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, frenchred said: Yes Just showing your ignorance there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReds Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 minute ago, David Brent said: That’s unconscious bias from you too. Perhaps Martin Tyler saw one person tackle another person and commented how he perceived the tackle. Whoa - don't mention anything about the massively biased ones who cry racism at every opportunity possible, (no matter how hard the mental gymnastics they have to go through for it to work in their mind or reality), it's amazing that they seem to be the only ones who are actually seeing the "race" of every individual everywhere. They are like, what do you call it? Is the word I'm looking for racist? 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheReds said: Whoa - don't mention anything about the massively biased ones who cry racism at every opportunity possible, (no matter how hard the mental gymnastics they have to go through for it to work in their mind or reality), it's amazing that they seem to be the only ones who are actually seeing the "race" of every individual everywhere. They are like, what do you call it? Is the word I'm looking for racist? U ok hon? xx Edited May 2, 2023 by LondonBristolian 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Well, it was an unfortunate comment, and could be misinterpreted, but if it was said live, people sometimes say the wrong thing. "A quiet word" seems a reasonable approach. Has anyone asked the player what he thinks of it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Selred said: How is that unconscious bias from me? It is so ingrained within your psyche that you refuse to acknowledge when confronted with it, you need to go on a course. Edited May 2, 2023 by tts_city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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