Kingswood Robin Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 41 minutes ago, Selred said: Because it's unconscious bias? Just because he's Asian, why should he be dubbed with martial art comments? It's crass and lazy. Was it unconscious bias? If it was a different player involved he may well have said the same thing. Was it just an unfortunate turn of phrase made in a split second, that every one of us has done at some point? An unfortunate perfect storm situation rather then an unconscious but premeditated thought. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Kingswood Robin said: Was it unconscious bias? If it was a different player involved he may well have said the same thing. Was it just an unfortunate turn of phrase made in a split second, that every one of us has done at some point? An unfortunate perfect storm situation rather then an unconscious but premeditated thought. I wouldn't say it was a common phrase in football. And it wasn't a different player. It's an odd phrase IMO to use for the foul. Most commentators would of said "pull back". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, tts_city said: It is so ingrained within your psyche that you refuse to acknowledge when confronted with it, you need to go on a course. Genuinely amused by how a handful of posters on here still consider “I know you are but what am I?” to be the height of wit and sophistication. Just wait until you learn “whoever smelt it dealt it”. You’re in for a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, TheReds said: Good grief. Agreed good grief... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, Selred said: How is that unconscious bias from me? How is it unconscious bias from Martin Tyler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Selred said: I wouldn't say it was a common phrase in football. And it wasn't a different player. It's an odd phrase IMO to use for the foul. Most commentators would of said "pull back". It may be an odd phrase, but I don't think that alone is conclusive proof of unconscious bias. If he had a history of these "mishaps" (I don't know if he has) then I think that would be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, David Brent said: How is it unconscious bias from Martin Tyler. I don't believe he was being deliberate in using it for Son. However I do think he wouldn't of said it about another player. It was a lack of thinking. Which he should still do better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Super said: You can imagine the type of people that found his comment racist. Well you’ll have to imagine, because it doesn’t seem like many, if any did? Just another typical story to stoke the divide again, and people jump at the opportunity to let us know what they think about “those” people, as imaginary as they may be. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Well you’ll have to imagine, because it doesn’t seem like many, if any did? Just another typical story to stoke the divide again, and people jump at the opportunity to let us know what they think about “those” people, as imaginary as they may be. Some did hence why Sky had a word with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) My God! Two pages dedicated to a passing remark, that was, i am pretty certain, not intended as a sleight on the Asian race?. What a pheckin great "Typhoon in a Demitasse"? Sorry if this in anyway upsets any French readers? Sorry "Tornado in a Stein".......oh no! that might upset the Germans? Edited May 2, 2023 by maxjak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Lew-T said: I like Martin Tyler, he’s had a fantastic career in commentary but if I was Sky, I would be looking to change next season. He is sadly past it. Have to say i agree with this. A bit similar to Graham Souness, a legend of the game but i think he has probably bowed out at the right time. Everyone has their sell by date unfortunately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, steveybadger said: They probably just had a quiet word about the way it could have been perceived. He probably had no thought about who the player was. Respectfully, let’s not start another culture wars discussion….. nothing new ever gets said You tried buddy, you tried 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Super said: Some did hence why Sky had a word with him. The problem is these days people take to Twitter to moan, and often deliberately just to wind people up or make tongue-in-cheek faux offence remarks - then these online publications write articles and quote tweets as their source. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Selred said: Because it's unconscious bias? Just because he's Asian, why should he be dubbed with martial art comments? It's crass and lazy. It makes no sense, martial arts aren't inherently Asian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 As soon as he said it I thought oh dear, probably not the last we've heard of that. I really don't think he meant anything by it for whatever that's worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: As soon as he said it I thought oh dear, probably not the last we've heard of that. I really don't think he meant anything by it for whatever that's worth. The same as when he said the Ukraine keeper will have to "soldier on" He clearly meant nothing by it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, Selred said: I don't believe he was being deliberate in using it for Son. However I do think he wouldn't of said it about another player. It was a lack of thinking. Which he should still do better. Easy to make a mistake without thinking isn't it? Some might say you need to put some more thought into your grammar and do better. Others might accept that people make unintentional mistakes and not be so judgmental on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Super said: Apparently Sky have spoken to him regarding his comment about the Son tackle on Gakpo at the weekend Tyler compared the incident to something you might see in "martial arts" and his words were met with backlash by some, who deemed his words to be racist, owing to Son's Asian heritage. Clearly a nothing comment which some have jumped on. Ridiculous. The People who have picked up on this innocuous remark are sad, deluded and absurd.........and should try to take up a hobby.......do they really have nothing better to do? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 2, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 FFS Some people will get offended about anything 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Super said: The same as when he said the Ukraine keeper will have to "soldier on" He clearly meant nothing by it. When your job is to fill silence for 90 minutes twice a week you're going to say the odd thing that comes across a little funky just by chance. I don't think anyone truly believes he's a racist over a comment that innocuous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, maxjak said: The People who have picked up on this innocuous remark are sad, deluded and absurd.........and should try to take up a hobby.......do they really have nothing better to do? Ironically, but not unpredictably, there are many more people in this thread moaning bitterly about people being offended than there are offended people. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, KegCity said: It makes no sense, martial arts aren't inherently Asian. In all fairness, as long as my marital aids arrive in discreet packaging, I don't care where they come from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 I can recall reading a book on capoeira, one of the main martial arts in Brazil, that was invented by Africa slaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, phantom said: FFS Some people will get offended about anything I think they are known as Scousers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Percy Pig said: Oh yay, that's what this thread needed. Let's have a go at a working class community that's endured some of the most disgusting state driven acts in modern history. Weird. a a a a a Calm down calm down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, Percy Pig said: I really do pity people like you. Dont no need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 7 hours ago, 2015 said: Yeah agree. Should really be apologising for how boring he is... Unless it's Man United of course. Is that because the commentator was a woman? Wooow you can’t say that , here comes some more offended people 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Super said: Apparently Sky have spoken to him regarding his comment about the Son tackle on Gakpo at the weekend Tyler compared the incident to something you might see in "martial arts" and his words were met with backlash by some, who deemed his words to be racist, owing to Son's Asian heritage. Clearly a nothing comment which some have jumped on. Ridiculous. I’m afraid we live in a world where the unofended get offended for the offended , very sad people I’m afraid 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Lew-T said: I like Martin Tyler, he’s had a fantastic career in commentary but if I was Sky, I would be looking to change next season. He is sadly past it. It’s easy to say he’s past it , personally don’t agree , however you need better coming through perhaps that’s where the problem lies , not much coming through to push him out , just a theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Stortz said: Ironically, but not unpredictably, there are many more people in this thread moaning bitterly about people being offended than there are offended people. One of my sayings people getting offended for the offended again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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