Clevedon Red Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) Saw these on Twitter for all the stattos. Edited May 10, 2023 by Clevedon Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Balls Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Was the 209 at Huddersfield on a midweek night cold enough to freeze off your extremities and few other things besides? Sorry to be the statistical pedant but the problem with this is that mean (average) is a really poor statistical measure for this type of distribution of data. Far better would be a median with ranges for both the crowd size and the distances. Our only sub 50 mile trip is Cardiff, and at push only Swansea, Reading, West Brom, Birmingham and Coventry are less than 100 miles. The same issue affects Cardiff to a similar degree and Swansea even more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: Was the 209 at Huddersfield on a midweek night cold enough to freeze off your extremities and few other things besides? Sorry to be the statistical pedant but the problem with this is that mean (average) is a really poor statistical measure for this type of distribution of data. Far better would be a median with ranges for both the crowd size and the distances. Our only sub 50 mile trip is Cardiff, and at push only Swansea, Reading, West Brom, Birmingham and Coventry are less than 100 miles. The same issue affects Cardiff to a similar degree and Swansea even more. Also it doesnt take into account how much the allocations were. Like we only took 1700 to QPR and 2000 to Watford but could have taken at least several hundred more for each IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Sorry for being thick but i cant understand these figures As i read it In the championship bit it says Bristol City Ave 1144 In League one it says Bristol Rovers 975 !!! Am i reading this correct or did they just miss a 0 off the rovers figure 2 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Sorry for being thick but i cant understand these figures As i read it In the championship bit it says Bristol City Ave 1144 In League one it says Bristol Rovers 975 !!! Am i reading this correct or did they just miss a 0 off the rovers figure No.column for "locked out" fans! 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Balls said: Was the 209 at Huddersfield on a midweek night cold enough to freeze off your extremities and few other things besides? Sorry to be the statistical pedant but the problem with this is that mean (average) is a really poor statistical measure for this type of distribution of data. Far better would be a median with ranges for both the crowd size and the distances. Our only sub 50 mile trip is Cardiff, and at push only Swansea, Reading, West Brom, Birmingham and Coventry are less than 100 miles. The same issue affects Cardiff to a similar degree and Swansea even more. To be fair, it tries to bring that in - there’s a column on there where it says how much percentage greater or less than the average distance fans had to travel fans of that club did. We rank 6th for above average distance there - behind Sunderland, Boro, Swansea, Cardiff and bizarrely Millwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Looks like Plymouth had the furthest to travel last season out of the whole EFL and still managed an average of 1630. Fair play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: Looks like Plymouth had the furthest to travel last season out of the whole EFL and still managed an average of 1630. Fair play. But then they have had a stellar season and it’s probably easier to get bigger away allocations at many League One grounds, where the home club will be keen to maximise income from more away fans, than it is in the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: But then they have had a stellar season and it’s probably easier to get bigger away allocations at many League One grounds, where the home club will be keen to maximise income from more away fans, than it is in the Championship. Yes there’s probably some truth in what you say, although I know they sold out many games so could be higher. But I think you’re being a bit hard on them, the miles they have to travel and to average 500 more than us travelling to places like Burton and Morecambe in the third tier is a magnificent effort. I’m only guessing but I reckon it’s more than we averaged when doing the double in that league a few years ago and we didn’t have as far to travel. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBibs Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Dr Balls said: Was the 209 at Huddersfield on a midweek night cold enough to freeze off your extremities and few other things besides? I was at Huddersfield and reckon 400 plus were there. Maybe the 209 was the televised end of season midweek game at Sheffield United? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Dr Balls said: Was the 209 at Huddersfield on a midweek night cold enough to freeze off your extremities and few other things besides? Sorry to be the statistical pedant but the problem with this is that mean (average) is a really poor statistical measure for this type of distribution of data. Far better would be a median with ranges for both the crowd size and the distances. Our only sub 50 mile trip is Cardiff, and at push only Swansea, Reading, West Brom, Birmingham and Coventry are less than 100 miles. The same issue affects Cardiff to a similar degree and Swansea even more. And Sunderland - only one trip less than 100 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, ralphindevon said: Yes there’s probably some truth in what you say, although I know they sold out many games so could be higher. But I think you’re being a bit hard on them, the miles they have to travel and to average 500 more than us travelling to places like Burton and Morecambe in the third tier is a magnificent effort. I’m only guessing but I reckon it’s more than we averaged when doing the double in that league a few years ago and we didn’t have as far to travel. Be interesting to see that, we took loads away that season, this has been my worst season for away games, only been to 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 hours ago, Rob k said: Be interesting to see that, we took loads away that season, this has been my worst season for away games, only been to 4 Yes we had some massive followings that season at MK Dons and a Coventry in particular. I seem to remember it being an average around 1400. I’ll see if I can find it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: Yes we had some massive followings that season at MK Dons and a Coventry in particular. I seem to remember it being an average around 1400. I’ll see if I can find it. Found each away following on the main site, so if my maths are correct and I’ve weeded out the cup games correctly…….. Our average League away following that season was 1,384. With a massive 5109 at MKD and 3794 at Coventry. So this will be the last time I praise them but an excellent effort from Plymouth with their fans scattered across Devon and Cornwall. I know from my own experiences, you get back to Bristol from an away game and still have that last stretch down to Devon is a pain in the backside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: Found each away following on the main site, so if my maths are correct and I’ve weeded out the cup games correctly…….. Our average League away following that season was 1,384. With a massive 5109 at MKD and 3794 at Coventry. So this will be the last time I praise them but an excellent effort from Plymouth with their fans scattered across Devon and Cornwall. I know from my own experiences, you get back to Bristol from an away game and still have that last stretch down to Devon is a pain in the backside. Yeah i worked it out to be exactly the same so not quite as good as i remembered, fair play to Plymouth fans, it’s another 2hrs to go for them from Bristol - good effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 Anyone got the Premier League figures? A lot of away allocations are capped so the figures could be lower than top end Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rob k said: Yeah i worked it out to be exactly the same so not quite as good as i remembered, fair play to Plymouth fans, it’s another 2hrs to go for them from Bristol - good effort We had some great away days that season but looking at the list now we had some difficult one’s too. Doncaster, Peterborough, Colchester, Fleetwood…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Dr Balls said: Was the 209 at Huddersfield on a midweek night cold enough to freeze off your extremities and few other things besides? Sorry to be the statistical pedant but the problem with this is that mean (average) is a really poor statistical measure for this type of distribution of data. Far better would be a median with ranges for both the crowd size and the distances. Our only sub 50 mile trip is Cardiff, and at push only Swansea, Reading, West Brom, Birmingham and Coventry are less than 100 miles. The same issue affects Cardiff to a similar degree and Swansea even more. Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Sheffield to name but three surely travel further than us ? I think our away support is pretty damn good considering certain performances and lack of importance hinging on the matches. I am sure that will increase as our results and performances improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Sheffield to name but three surely travel further than us ? I think our away support is pretty damn good considering certain performances and lack of importance hinging on the matches. I am sure that will increase as our results and performances improve. According to the table we’re the 7th furthest travelled fans in the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 Carlisle's numbers are pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 On 11/05/2023 at 07:40, ralphindevon said: Found each away following on the main site, so if my maths are correct and I’ve weeded out the cup games correctly…….. Our average League away following that season was 1,384. With a massive 5109 at MKD and 3794 at Coventry. So this will be the last time I praise them but an excellent effort from Plymouth with their fans scattered across Devon and Cornwall. I know from my own experiences, you get back to Bristol from an away game and still have that last stretch down to Devon is a pain in the backside. The season we won the league with Cotts, around five or six games from the end there was a situation where Plymouth could have gone up to League One and Swindon could have come up with us. If that had happened, Plymouth`s closest away game the following season would have been Walsall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 On 11/05/2023 at 07:24, ralphindevon said: Yes we had some massive followings that season at MK Dons and a Coventry in particular. I seem to remember it being an average around 1400. I’ll see if I can find it. Our best season for big away followings must have been that first season back up in the Championship with Gary Johnson - 2007/08 - the play off season. Pretty sure we averaged about 1,800 that season, didn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, City Rocker said: Our best season for big away followings must have been that first season back up in the Championship with Gary Johnson - 2007/08 - the play off season. Pretty sure we averaged about 1,800 that season, didn't we? Good shout, yeah I was living abroad then so only got to about 4 games plus Wembley of course. We had some big clubs with us like Wolves, Palace, Leicester, Southampton so it wouldn’t surprise me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, City Rocker said: Our best season for big away followings must have been that first season back up in the Championship with Gary Johnson - 2007/08 - the play off season. Pretty sure we averaged about 1,800 that season, didn't we? Found it. A very respectable 1767. Just watching the L1 playoff on tv and was just thinking, we really are due another season like that. And I’ve a funny feeling it isn’t far away, maybe just months! 15 years since we were involved in the playoffs and never been promoted via them. Our time is near………..hopefully!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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