Super Posted May 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Percy Pig said: And people who've never seen him play are adamant he should be England's first choice CB... Maybe Southgate has a clue after all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, italian dave said: And that’s also why they are called Milan and not Milano, ie the anglicised name of the City. And, for similar reasons, why one of the two Genova clubs is called Genoa. And why Curva Nord (the Inter end) had a big banner saying "Milano" Inter were formed because Milan wouldn't accept non-Italian players playing for them, hence the name Internazionale. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: And why Curva Nord (the Inter end) had a big banner saying "Milano" Inter were formed because Milan wouldn't accept non-Italian players playing for them, hence the name Internazionale. I don’t know if I’m imagining this, or just read it once years ago, but I was under the impression that Inter used to firmly reject any mention of Milan or Milano as part of their name. And that they were adamant that it was simply ‘Internazionale’. It’s still the case that’s their name, but when people talk about Milan in the same sentence they seem slightly more relaxed about it now!? This discussion got me thinking about Juventus too! I just googled it and apparently that name comes from the Latin word for the Italian ‘gioventu’, which means ‘youngster’. So, originally, formed as a club that was made up of promising young players from the Torino area. Never knew that before, so like @PhilC I’ve learnt something too!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, italian dave said: This discussion got me thinking about Juventus too! I just googled it and apparently that name comes from the Latin word for the Italian ‘gioventu’, which means ‘youngster’. So, originally, formed as a club that was made up of promising young players from the Torino area. Never knew that before, so like @PhilC I’ve learnt something too!!! Although, interestingly, they are known familiarly as ‘The Old Lady’. In fact, it is just a play on words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Although, interestingly, they are known familiarly as ‘The Old Lady’. In fact, it is just a play on words. And, of course, their own English connection…with Notts County! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 There was an interesting article on the athletic about how foreign teams names don't tend to be about the location of the club. So the English press always added the location to the team name as the general public of the time didn't really know where they where. This wasn't just an English thing. German press used to add London to the likes of Chelsea/arsenal etc But as public knowledge grew its started to die off a bit. The strangest thing is how we don't translate some team names, half translate some team names (Bayern Munich), and fully translate others (Red star Belgrade... where the city is also added). Again this isn't just an English thing as the Italians used to say "Bayern Monaco" as their half translation. I can imagine that gets very confusing when they actually play Monaco.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 Always preferred AC Milan to Inter, growing up with some truly iconic players from AC Milan during the 1990s and 2000s. Italian Football has many many iconic Football clubs, much like the History of Italy. Didn't know Maldini spoke such excellent English. One of the best Defenders of all time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 14 hours ago, The turtle said: Take Madrid getting the REAL treatment, disregarding betis, sociadad, and others. Hmmm... Not sure you're right on that... Madrid = Real Madrid La Real = Real Sociedad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, 2015 said: Always preferred AC Milan to Inter, growing up with some truly iconic players from AC Milan during the 1990s and 2000s. Italian Football has many many iconic Football clubs, much like the History of Italy. Didn't know Maldini spoke such excellent English. One of the best Defenders of all time Spot on. Would get into any greatest ever teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 16 hours ago, Club and Country said: I went to the Milan derby in February, and very similar to that night, AC Milan are miles off it Have wanted to get to the San Siro for years and now that its due be be demolished at some point in the near future has made me think I need to get my finger out and arrange something. Is it easy to get tickets or did yu do as some form of organised package deal? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 Couple of decent articles by Delaney. He over eggs certain bits, but decent read all the same. https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/ac-milan-inter-milan-champions-league-b2336783.html https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/ac-milan-inter-result-champions-league-san-siro-b2336807.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, elhombrecito said: Hmmm... Not sure you're right on that... Madrid = Real Madrid La Real = Real Sociedad Oh how you disappoint me, la real and real are Miles apart. As a better Spanish speaker than me I expected better. (I did actually doubt myself, so sent a few messages of confirmation ) La real is the nickname, literally the royals. It's not the same. (In the way that real and atleti are not nicknames) if you said, how did real play this weekend? Everybody would assume Madrid. The LA matters Real/Madrid= it's pretty much in equal measure. Sociadad/la real = Betis Ps. Even within this thread, cityexile took the real route Edited May 11, 2023 by The turtle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 16 hours ago, italian dave said: And that’s also why they are called Milan and not Milano, ie the anglicised name of the City. And, for similar reasons, why one of the two Genova clubs is called Genoa. 17 hours ago, Malago said: The AC stands for Associazione Calco which translated means Football Club. So in English AC Milan are Milan FC. The club was founded by English expats and was originally called the Milan Football and Cricket Club. Any idea why a club founded by expats somehow went down the route of not wanting to sign non Italian players? Seems an odd position to take, thus leading to the creation of inter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, 54-46 said: Have wanted to get to the San Siro for years and now that its due be be demolished at some point in the near future has made me think I need to get my finger out and arrange something. Is it easy to get tickets or did yu do as some form of organised package deal? Thanks I went to the coppa Italia derby last uear (0-0) Quite simply , go What an experience, what a place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 I remember doing a stadium tour about 20 years ago. Amazing that the changing rooms were on a par with the ones on the Downs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, 54-46 said: Have wanted to get to the San Siro for years and now that its due be be demolished at some point in the near future has made me think I need to get my finger out and arrange something. Is it easy to get tickets or did yu do as some form of organised package deal? Thanks I went to watch Milan v Lazio on Saturday, and I got tickets easily on-line. And that was with a 73,000 crowd! (I don't think I'd have had much chance for the semi final!). All from the Milan website: you have to open a 'MyMilan' account and then just log on using that account and go to the ticket section. It's no more difficult than getting a City ticket. And they're sent electronically so you can print off or put on your phone. You will need to show some photo ID with the same name etc as the ticket when you get to the ground - and they do check that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Club and Country Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 hours ago, 54-46 said: Have wanted to get to the San Siro for years and now that its due be be demolished at some point in the near future has made me think I need to get my finger out and arrange something. Is it easy to get tickets or did yu do as some form of organised package deal? Thanks I did my own thing, flights, Airbnb I went when inter were home and was tracking ticket sales on there website, I ended up buying a 'Siamo Noi' card (like our membership ) cost 20 euros but got me into a priority sale and then picked up cheapest tickets for about 80 euro if you do go through a package, make sure it's an authorised one, as I bumped in to 2 different lots of English lads out there who had been ripped off and never received there tickets and that was about 2 hours before kick off an incredible experience and an incredible stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 I tried to get tickets for next weeks game with my membership, fair play to inter they made it virtually impossible for somebody like me (only ever been once) to get a ticket heard last nice AC had over 2 million ticket applications o and as others have said, If you go, absolutely must take your ID as it does get checked and they won't let you in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Club and Country said: I did my own thing, flights, Airbnb I went when inter were home and was tracking ticket sales on there website, I ended up buying a 'Siamo Noi' card (like our membership ) cost 20 euros but got me into a priority sale and then picked up cheapest tickets for about 80 euro if you do go through a package, make sure it's an authorised one, as I bumped in to 2 different lots of English lads out there who had been ripped off and never received there tickets and that was about 2 hours before kick off an incredible experience and an incredible stadium Wow, 80 Euros! Inter must think they're worth more than Milan! The cheapest for the Milan Lazio game last week were 24 Euros. Right up in the third tier mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 22 hours ago, Super said: Maybe Southgate has a clue after all... you think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, redkev said: you think so Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Club and Country said: I did my own thing, flights, Airbnb I went when inter were home and was tracking ticket sales on there website, I ended up buying a 'Siamo Noi' card (like our membership ) cost 20 euros but got me into a priority sale and then picked up cheapest tickets for about 80 euro if you do go through a package, make sure it's an authorised one, as I bumped in to 2 different lots of English lads out there who had been ripped off and never received there tickets and that was about 2 hours before kick off an incredible experience and an incredible stadium Did you go alone , deffo on my bucket list , I’m deffo gonna start doing some random games in Europe , not necessarily the big names . for some reason certain names jump out at me , st ettiene being one. Remember Utd playing them years ago ( there was a fair bit of trouble but the atmosphere looked amazing , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, italian dave said: Wow, 80 Euros! Inter must think they're worth more than Milan! The cheapest for the Milan Lazio game last week were 24 Euros. Right up in the third tier mind! That was the cheapest available and we were up in the gods! I looked at other games and Inter certainly do seem to cash in on the derby for what it's worth I've also done Roma V Lazio and would say the Milan derby just shades it, mainly due to San Siro 10 minutes ago, redkev said: Did you go alone , deffo on my bucket list , I’m deffo gonna start doing some random games in Europe , not necessarily the big names . for some reason certain names jump out at me , st ettiene being one. Remember Utd playing them years ago ( there was a fair bit of trouble but the atmosphere looked amazing , Went with brother and dad, next game on my list was Genoa v Sampdoria but Sampdoria have been relegated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Club and Country said: That was the cheapest available and we were up in the gods! I looked at other games and Inter certainly do seem to cash in on the derby for what it's worth I've also done Roma V Lazio and would say the Milan derby just shades it, mainly due to San Siro Went with brother and dad, next game on my list was Genoa v Sampdoria but Sampdoria have been relegated! Never seen a Milan derby but I can imagine it’s something special! As you say, San Siro is much more of a proper football ground that the Olimpico. I’ve been to several Rome derbys: so many amazing memories of those. Gascoigne’s first derby when he scored the equaliser in the dying minutes, I ended up about 20m from my original seat and no idea how! And a night game when the fan displays were unbelievably spectacular! At the other end of the scale I also went to one in the season when the fans were on strike: the crowd was about 20,000, both Curve were half empty and silent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 I went to Milan v Juve a few years back and it was incredible. Someone let an enormous firework off in the concourse and the whole stadium shook. We were right at the top and the walk up those spiral walkways nearly killed me! Nedved, Davids, Del Piero and Shevchenko all played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 Can't wait for this again tonight, purely for the crowd again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 Just now, Club and Country said: Can't wait for this again tonight, purely for the crowd again Surely Milan can't be as poor. For me this is the game to see who finishes runners up. Both are levels below MC and RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Super said: Surely Milan can't be as poor. For me this is the game to see who finishes runners up. Both are levels below MC and RM No doubt be interesting to watch how the AC Milan ultras behave if things don't go there way tonight... probably behave as been in the press all week!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 I have only tuned in for 2nd half, has the whole game been like this? Players down every two seconds it feels like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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