Negan Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 So it sounds like he’s a CB who went on loan to Derby and they played him LB… sounds familiar to Lloyd Kelly? Happens to a lot of young centre backs where they get pushed to the full back position when stepping up to real first team duties. So I don’t think this is the end of any Joe Bryan links. As others have said this looks more like cover for Atkinson/Naismith (Kalas not signing) and he can slot in at LB too. The perfect signing imo, especially on a free. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Just now, Negan said: So it sounds like he’s a CB who went on loan to Derby and they played him LB… sounds familiar to Lloyd Kelly? Happens to a lot of young centre backs where they get pushed to the full back position when stepping up to real first team duties. So I don’t think this is the end of any Joe Bryan links. As others have said this looks more like cover for Atkinson/Naismith (Kalas not signing) and he can slot in at LB too. The perfect signing imo, especially on a free. He's not tall enough to play CB in a back 4, he's 5"8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Will/have Brighton offer him a contract to get comp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Just now, Jimbo123 said: He's not tall enough to play CB in a back 4, he's 5"8. Tbf Martinez from Man United is only an inch taller and was up there with one of the best in the league last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Jimbo123 said: He's not tall enough to play CB in a back 4, he's 5"8. Hes 6ft according to transfermarkt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 It all points towards a back 5 again which is a bit of a surprise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: It all points towards a back 5 again which is a bit of a surprise It does seem like that. I wonder if the fact we were struggling to fit Weimann, Wells, Mehmeti and Sykes in their natural positions is a factor? Edit: Cornick too perhaps Edited June 6, 2023 by mozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliOTIB Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, mozo said: It does seem like that. I wonder if the fact we were struggling to fit Weimann, Wells, Mehmeti and Sykes in their natural positions is a factor? Edit: Cornick too perhaps Not sure RWB is where sykes plays best tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: It all points towards a back 5 again which is a bit of a surprise Didn't Nige say we'll be playing 4-3-3? I'm sure he did. @Davefevs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/06/bristol-city-in-talks-to-sign-pl-man-on-free-transfer-spent-last-season-on-loan-at-derby-county/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, OliOTIB said: Not sure RWB is where sykes plays best tbh Edit: Not sure I got your point right, but he could be RWB or in the 3 I guess. Edited June 6, 2023 by mozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Just now, Jimbo123 said: Didn't Nige say we'll be playing 4-3-3? I'm sure he did. @Davefevs? Actually he said it was wrong for people to assume 4-3-3 is his preference. He prefers to play 2 up front with 1 behind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underhanded Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 I'm a bit confused, the forums usually pretty reticent to run with rumours when they come out. Yet, it seems like everyone has decided the Bryan deal is off, and the Roberts deal is happening - both being 100% true. Have I missed something? Are these both super reliable sources? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, chinapig said: Actually he said it was wrong for people to assume 4-3-3 is his preference. He prefers to play 2 up front with 1 behind. I'm sure he said something about us playing the same system next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Quick look on Transfermarkt and it looks like, over his whole career , he has played predominantly as a CB. Carey & Kelly had spells at FB before settling into a CB role. Good age and decent amount of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, underhanded said: I'm a bit confused, the forums usually pretty reticent to run with rumours when they come out. Yet, it seems like everyone has decided the Bryan deal is off, and the Roberts deal is happening - both being 100% true. Have I missed something? Are these both super reliable sources? It’s come from a poster who has been spot on with transfers previously, ie, a reliable source. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, underhanded said: I'm a bit confused, the forums usually pretty reticent to run with rumours when they come out. Yet, it seems like everyone has decided the Bryan deal is off, and the Roberts deal is happening - both being 100% true. Have I missed something? Are these both super reliable sources? Yes to all of your questions! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underhanded Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Betty Swallocks said: It’s come from a poster who has been spot on with transfers previously, ie, a reliable source. Cheers, that makes sense. Must of missed that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 The more I think about it, the more exciting this deal is. Young, up and coming player. Yes he's green, but we have Pring as first choice. Bryan, top Championship player, but does have injury doubts. Long term this deal will likely be best! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Selred said: My Derby supporting mate said he can play left back, wing back and even CB if needed. The kid is really good. Feels this would be no Bryan. Signing Roberts looks like a "no Bryaner" decision. I'll get my coat! 1 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, Negan said: So it sounds like he’s a CB who went on loan to Derby and they played him LB… sounds familiar to Lloyd Kelly? Happens to a lot of young centre backs where they get pushed to the full back position when stepping up to real first team duties. So I don’t think this is the end of any Joe Bryan links. As others have said this looks more like cover for Atkinson/Naismith (Kalas not signing) and he can slot in at LB too. The perfect signing imo, especially on a free. My first thoughts were about Kelly too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, RedRoss said: Been playing at Derby. They were hoping to sign him up after his loan spell... https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/39915-haydon-roberts/page/7/#comments Gerry Daly is deluded! MWRam much more sensible! 15 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Quick look on Transfermarkt and it looks like, over his whole career , he has played predominantly as a CB. Carey & Kelly had spells at FB before settling into a CB role. Good age and decent amount of games. I think what you might be seeing here is an age group CB who’s gradually had to shift to a side defender as the physical nature of the position begins to influence, ie he’s not over-tall or “big”, so with his technical ability he’s moved to LB at “men’s level”. My tweet from earlier for the obligatory data plus a lovely video! I do remember him getting good plaudits on loan at Rochdale (they had some players the “fanalysts” on twitter liked - he was one of them), but he’d dropped off of my radar until I watched the final Lg1 day - Derby v Wednesday. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t give you much more insight that he’s pretty quick, recovers position well through his pace. He’s not a tackler, prefers to stand up and use his body…and he more than capable technically on the ball. At 21, PL-Academy grounding, available for nothing (not even sure about compo - might be being released full stop), he’s a better proposition than Jack Currie for example. England u17/18 too, so that’ll give an idea of youth pedigree. Whether this has opened up because of the Joe Bryan situation, I’ve no idea, but on paper a very clever recruit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, chinapig said: Actually he said it was wrong for people to assume 4-3-3 is his preference. He prefers to play 2 up front with 1 behind. I said about this before on here. People like to think Nige listened to their tactical knowledge by switching to 433 but the reality is we switched to it because Conway got injured. Up until that point none of us would have dropped Wells or Conway so the options were 352 or 442 and I don't think we had the players for 442. I've been saying for a while that I think we may possibly go back to 352 because Pearson does like to have the two strikers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Just now, W-S-M Seagull said: I said about this before on here. People like to think Nige listened to their tactical knowledge by switching to 433 but the reality is we switched to it because Conway got injured. Up until that point none of us would have dropped Wells or Conway so the options were 352 or 442 and I don't think we had the players for 442. I've been saying for a while that I think we may possibly go back to 352 because Pearson does like to have the two strikers. And why I think we may end up with: a back 4 2 up top / 1 behind with the three behind very flexible. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if we still went 4213 either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: And why I think we may end up with: a back 4 2 up top / 1 behind with the three behind very flexible. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if we still went 4213 either. I'm very excited Dave. Previously it seems we had to find a system to fit the players we had. Now it looks like we are recruiting in a way where we can play various systems as and when required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Gerry Daly is deluded! MWRam much more sensible! I think what you might be seeing here is an age group CB who’s gradually had to shift to a side defender as the physical nature of the position begins to influence, ie he’s not over-tall or “big”, so with his technical ability he’s moved to LB at “men’s level”. My tweet from earlier for the obligatory data plus a lovely video! I do remember him getting good plaudits on loan at Rochdale (they had some players the “fanalysts” on twitter liked - he was one of them), but he’d dropped off of my radar until I watched the final Lg1 day - Derby v Wednesday. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t give you much more insight that he’s pretty quick, recovers position well through his pace. He’s not a tackler, prefers to stand up and use his body…and he more than capable technically on the ball. At 21, PL-Academy grounding, available for nothing (not even sure about compo - might be being released full stop), he’s a better proposition than Jack Currie for example. England u17/18 too, so that’ll give an idea of youth pedigree. Whether this has opened up because of the Joe Bryan situation, I’ve no idea, but on paper a very clever recruit. The only reservation I have is that him and Pring are very different - he's very defensively minded, Pring whilst capable defensively obviously his standout attributes are going forward. Could be viewed as a healthy blend? I'm not sure, they aren't alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 57 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: He's not tall enough to play CB in a back 4, he's 5"8. Transfermarkt has him at 6' while Wiki says he's 5'9" whici is the same height as Fabio Cannavaro and Lisandro Martinez, who ofcourse did nothing other than win world cups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I said about this before on here. People like to think Nige listened to their tactical knowledge by switching to 433 but the reality is we switched to it because Conway got injured. Up until that point none of us would have dropped Wells or Conway so the options were 352 or 442 and I don't think we had the players for 442. I've been saying for a while that I think we may possibly go back to 352 because Pearson does like to have the two strikers. My theory is we switched to it at half time vs Swansea in the FA Cup as they were playing us off the park and we need an extra man in midfield (Naismith) so we could get after them. It worked in the second half of that game and we stuck with it right up to QPR away 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Similar height to Cashin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Gerry Daly is deluded! A Derby fan who doesn't understand football finance? Surely not? 3 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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