East Londoner Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Pretty underwhelming prediction…plus not sure where all the Ipswich hype has come from 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Pretty underwhelming prediction…plus not sure where all the Ipswich hype has come from Ashton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) I'm a little surprised to see Blackburn tipped to hit the playoffs given the departure of Brereton-Diaz plus experience in the form of Ayala and Dack albeit those two had varying game time. Surprised to see us predicted to go backwards despite the growth of the team especially the young players, the better environment ie more stable not fire-fighting, the marked improvement of form post the 4-3-3 switch. Edited July 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Pretty underwhelming prediction…plus not sure where all the Ipswich hype has come from If Tommy Conway improves on last years double figure goal tally, then we will go up as Champions and probably win the FA and League cup too. 100 + goals bring it on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 No more than one persons view Last seasons for comparison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Football related articles predicting league positions is based entirely on guesswork. I really don’t get why these editors bother - they’re never right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Why does everyone put Hull above every season. Others I can take, but bloody Hull?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 58 minutes ago, RedRaw said: No more than one persons view Last seasons for comparison Norwich, Watford and West Brom in the top six tells me all I need to know about these predictions. Digital loo roll 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I’m very pleased that we’ll be under the radar and able to surprise a few. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I'm quite happy that most people don't have us down as top 6 or bottom 3, bit of an unknown and well under the radar. Obviously, that could change if we lose our first half-dozen and then pressure sets in, but if we hit some early season form, I still don't see the press making much of it and focusing on the sides with more of a history. Could help avoid some of the pressure that sides with a recent history of success get. As for Ipswich, I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: Norwich, Watford and West Brom in the top six tells me all I need to know about these predictions. Digital loo roll Usually written by people who know next to nothing about most of the clubs involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: As for Ipswich, I don't get it. It's a case of "they used to be famous when Bobby Robson was manager so I'll tip them". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, chinapig said: Usually written by people who know a bit next to nothing about most of the clubs involved in the top 6, next to nothing about the rest of the division and bu99er all about Bristol City! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted July 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, chinapig said: Usually written by people who know next to nothing about most of the clubs involved. Having read it again it’s also clear that it’s pointless making predictions if you can’t put aside your own personal bias. Apparently we have too many veterans whereas the gas apparently have an exciting young team. Last time i looked it was the other way round Similar to the second tier podcast and their weird anti Pearson agenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Having read it Similar to the second tier podcast and their weird anti Pearson agenda I'm convinced that this is tied to, in the case of Dilks especially, Pearson and his- at best disappointing- few months in charge of Derby in 2016.. Dilks is very much a Derby fan and it shows, dunno who Peach supports. Edited July 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 You can see why 442 have gone from a respected top end sports magazine to, well.. this crap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, East Londoner said: Having read it again it’s also clear that it’s pointless making predictions if you can’t put aside your own personal bias. Apparently we have too many veterans whereas the gas apparently have an exciting young team. Last time i looked it was the other way round Similar to the second tier podcast and their weird anti Pearson agenda The wider problem with EFL coverage is that national football journalists would have to do research to find out about the majority of clubs. Why bother when you can spend your time quoting tweets from top Premier League players and call that journalism? They often claim how important the pyramid is but largely treat the EFL with something between indifference and contempt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Personally can’t see to much wrong with the table prediction tbh other than I’d swap Leeds with Ipswich or Sunderland . Maybe it’s just supporting City that has made me pessimistic but we’ve only made average signings for this league so far this window and we’re gonna lose are best player before the window shuts . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Winterstoke toad said: Personally can’t see to much wrong with the table prediction tbh other than I’d swap Leeds with Ipswich or Sunderland . Maybe it’s just supporting City that has made me pessimistic but we’ve only made average signings for this league so far this window and we’re gonna lose are best player before the window shuts . On the flipside we are increasingly cohesive as a unit, our young players such as Bell and Conway are a year on in experience and players such as Mehmeti and Cornick will have had a full pre-season. Tanner and Pring McCrorie and Roberts is quite a good range. Knight has a bit of a goal threat too or can do. Less injuries wouldn't go amiss. We need less medium term injuries if we are to operate a relatively tight squad. This is if Scott stays. Two or three new signings..if Scott goes, in priority positions surely is a bit of a must. GK, CB especially left sided and a midfielder. I think you're unduly pessimistic but we will need some luck too of course. Edited July 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, East Londoner said: Pretty underwhelming prediction…plus not sure where all the Ipswich hype has come from Underwhelming indeed... If I had to stick a number on it I'd consider an 11th placed finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I’m very pleased that we’ll be under the radar and able to surprise a few. Don't we say this every season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Super said: Don't we say this every season? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: No. We haven't surprised anyone since 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I actually don't get West Brom. They have lost a number of players, have signed no one, have no money. The two/three good loans they had, had now gone and yet they are predicted to be up there? They had to let some of there experienced players go as they couldn't afford new contracts. I personally would be very surprised if they were top half myself. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: I actually don't get West Brom. They have lost a number of players, have signed no one, have no money. The two/three good loans they had, had now gone and yet they are predicted to be up there? They had to let some of there experienced players go as they couldn't afford new contracts. I personally would be very surprised if they were top half myself. Yes but you could be assed to find out the facts whereas the writer may not have done or has chosen to ignore them. I doubt the Action for Albion fans group are optimistic. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65220360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, chinapig said: Yes but you could be assed to find out the facts whereas the writer may not have done or has chosen to ignore them. I doubt the Action for Albion fans group are optimistic. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65220360 I wouldn't write off WBA entirely but there are a few things that need to fall in their favour from here IMO. Kipre and Mowatt returning could hit the ground running again, they both have ability at this level. That aside rather depends IMO on how many more go from here. Yeah their depth still thinning out but I think they may hope for some loanees too. Otoh the aforementioned Kipre and Mowatt plus Alex Palmer in goal, Swift and Yokuslu in midfield, Wallace out wide and Dike fitness permitting oh Molumby too in midfield, should give them some hope. Quite like Thomas-Asante too! A sprinkling of experienced Championship players around the squad too. Most importantly retaining Corberan. I imagine he has them quite unified but if he was to walk... Edited July 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 hours ago, RedRaw said: No more than one persons view Last seasons for comparison QPR in 12th went well, shitting themselves that they would go down with a fortnight of the season left. Worth highlighting too that only one of the three they tipped to get relegated actually did & that was due to a points deduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, Super said: We haven't surprised anyone since 2008. No we haven’t and nobody’s expected us to either hence, we don’t say it every season. I’m pleased that you’ve quickly come around to my view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I find 442's recent journalism to be lazy. It's almost like they sit in the office and go "West Brom and Norwich will be up there, they're big clubs...", "Let's pick a club with the momentum of promotion from last season (it can't be Plymouth because we can't be bothered to venture that far out-west", "Blackburn and Sunderland did ok last season so we'll back them" and that old chestnut "Leicester and Southampton will bounce back; 2 clubs always do. Haemorhaged players? Have they?". "Let's fill in the gaps....oh, you missed Hull...where is there a gap?" 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I’m sure most people are optimistic at this moment in time. I’d probably say 8-9th place finish. However, we pretty much always finish bottom half so if someone was offering me £10m if I got my prediction right I’d say 13th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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