Ronnie Sinclair Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) A bit nonplussed by this appointment, but that might be due to ignorance at his career on my part so I will read up on it - and then give him 10-15 games to form a proper opinion and not write him off before he's even donned his shiny new O'Neill's tracksuit Edited November 6, 2023 by Ronnie Sinclair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, George Rs said: We are scraping 1-0 over a 10 man sheff Wednesday. Give the man a chance. Please explain, why you have ignored my first sentence and where I haven't given the man a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted November 6, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 The Oxford fans seem angry. I'm taking that as a good sign. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, italian dave said: I've said my bit. I think he should be given the chance and judged by what he does at Ashton Gate. And as long as he's here I'll support him in trying to achieve success. You've clearly decided otherwise. Are fans such as myself not allowed to have our concerns? I'll always support the team as I did on Saturday. However this guy gets no period of grace. And thats not his fault. That's on the owners. But by taking the job Manning knows the expectations he is under. He obviously feels as if he can meet those expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) I have spent years on this forum reading people bemoaning the fact that we never seem to get the next big thing coaching wise, why Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth etc? Now we look to be bringing in someone on that mould and it's WTF is this guy? what does he bring? And so on. To me it's more important that the guy has reputation in the game rather than on the terraces, what I am hearing is that the players are very happy with this guy, that those who still have links with Oxford have been told that he is definitely worth listening to which is a huge plus. As for @W-S-M Seagull and others bemoaning the "bullshit bingo", there is a huge difference between talking in those terms and understanding and implementing them. I think it looks and sounds like this man is in the latter category. Also, with that in mind, the biggest problem most seem to have with LJ was that it was all about him and what he did, whereas in that video he explicitly talks about the players and helping them make the right decisions. That last part is not a million miles of what Pearson wanted either. Edited November 6, 2023 by Port Said Red 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Please explain, why you have ignored my first sentence and where I haven't given the man a chance. Didn’t mean to suggest you hadn’t my bad, just this thread in general currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, Ian M said: The Oxford fans seem angry. I'm taking that as a good sign. Barnsley fans were angry with LJ when he left them and they remained angry for quite a while after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan11 Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, Evs said: The Kieran McKenna who was at Manchester United for about 5 years including 3 as assistant manager when they finished second in the Premier League before moving to Ipswich so its a slightly more impressive CV than 2 years split between MKD and Oxford. The Lansdown's have taken a huge gamble and it feels very much a yes man appointment but as Nige says lets get behind OUR TEAM. Ipswich fan here... Manning is a very impressive coach with quite a similar background to McKenna. He has spent years learning his craft, specialising as a coach after retiring from football young. He started coaching at Ipswich in his 20's and was very highly thought of before going to West Ham where he did an excellent job. He was then poached by and progressed through the ranks with the 'City Group' who don't just take any mug! His MK Dons side were fantastic (we played them a couple of times in L1) and they were extremely unfortunate not to get promoted with 89 points. If he hadn't lost everyone half decent from that side, he would have challenged again last year (thankfully for us he did and they didn't!). It is no surprise to me he has got Oxford playing great football and competing at the top of the league this year. If McKenna were to go tomorrow, I can guarantee he would be most Ipswich fans choice to take over. He shares the same footballing principles and also has a lot of the same personality qualities - very emotionally intelligent and players will love playing for him. His assistant (assuming he comes too) Chris Hogg is also a fantastic coach that was highly thought of here too and he ended up spending time at Newcastle as U23s coach. 21 26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said: NOBODY FROM THE CLUB SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE AN EXCITING APPOINTMENT. HOW MANY MORE TIMES??????? Wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, George Rs said: Didn’t mean to suggest you hadn’t my bad, just this thread in general currently. OK. I agree about scraping a win over 10 man bottom of the leaguers too, btw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, premisesmanager said: Appointment will be cheap option .Typical Lansdown appointment . Quite deflated. Still Tinnion will be happy. a manager with near 50% win rate wherever he’s been. Cheap option yet we have to pay money to get him. Oxford fans gutted. Just see what happens no point in being so negative. He’s obviously highly thought of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, transfer reader said: Mikel Arteta had never managed anyone before the Arsenal job, McKenna no one before Ipswich, Howe no one before Bournemouth All of them were less experienced than Manning is now. Should Carlisle have not given Pearson his first managers job because he hadn't managed at (what is now) League 1 before? He learnt off some bloke who's pretty good though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 Up The City! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcape91 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I fully expect us to give this guy some big backing because he is their guy and they will do all that needs to be done to prove their decision was the right one. It's possible that we're going to need Pearson back here to clean up the mess when yet another project fails. Yeah, I think the board will happily spend to prove a majority of the fan base wrong about being upset over Nige's sacking. Not that it will prove anything, they've certainly backed themselves into a corner now. Either get promoted with their new man with the same constraints of the previous regime, or spend to achieve what couldn't be achieved before, undoing the house keeping of the last 3 years. The circumstances do take the excitement out of the prospect of spending, and a new manager. It does feel very much like "here we go again", we won't be lucky enough to be able to call on Nige should history repeat itself. One thing guaranteed is that there are no guarantees, so good luck to whoever the new manager Head Coach is. It's certainly an awkward situation to come into, I hope it all works out alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Wrong. Proof that's wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dan11 said: Ipswich fan here... Manning is a very impressive coach with quite a similar background to McKenna. He has spent years learning his craft, specialising as a coach after retiring from football young. He started coaching at Ipswich in his 20's and was very highly thought of before going to West Ham where he did an excellent job. He was then poached by and progressed through the ranks with the 'City Group' who don't just take any mug! His MK Dons side were fantastic (we played them a couple of times in L1) and they were extremely unfortunate not to get promoted with 89 points. If he hadn't lost everyone half decent from that side, he would have challenged again last year (thankfully for us he did and they didn't!). It is no surprise to me he has got Oxford playing great football and competing at the top of the league this year. If McKenna were to go tomorrow, I can guarantee he would be most Ipswich fans choice to take over. He shares the same footballing principles and also has a lot of the same personality qualities - very emotionally intelligent and players will love playing for him. His assistant (assuming he comes too) Chris Hogg is also a fantastic coach that was highly thought of here too and he ended up spending time at Newcastle as U23s coach. This has given me a bit of hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: I fully expect us to give this guy some big backing because he is their guy and they will do all that needs to be done to prove their decision was the right one. It's possible that we're going to need Pearson back here to clean up the mess when yet another project fails. And, out of interest, do you think he should be given money to spend? And did you think Pearson should have been given money to spend? Because this is another example where people seem to be holding decisions made by other people and a previous regime against someone who was nothing to do with those decisions. Not saying that with you in mind, hence my question. If we need to spend money to strengthen the squad then we need to spend money. If it was the wrong decision under Pearson, then it doesn't suddenly make it the right decision under his successor. And it's certainly not something to use as a stick to beat that successor with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Wrong. Regardless it depends on what you deem exciting. Personally (and regardless of NP) I’m more excited by this than a ‘glamorous’ Lampard type appointment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, East Londoner said: It just seems a very Bristol City appointment going for a cheap option from a lower league We had the chance to try something different not necessarily appointing a big name but looking in leagues we don’t usually look in. Instead we’ve reverted to type and if you keep doing the same things normally the end result is the same Nothing against Manning but i fully expect the cycle to go round again just like it has while SL has been our owner Is it cheap? 6 figures release clause, plus he'd bring his own team with him as we sacked everyone else. What "big name" did you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, RedRoss said: Proof that's wrong? Look and you shall find grasshopper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) It’s just very difficult to be excited about this. I still don’t understand why Nige is not here, I mean JL mumbled it in an interview but still don’t understand it. Currently it looks a very stupid and unnecessary move. Edited November 6, 2023 by Lew-T 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: As for @W-S-M Seagull and others bemoaning the "bullshit bingo", there is a huge difference between talking in those terms and understanding and implementing them. I think it looks and sounds like this man is in the latter category. Also, with that in mind, the biggest problem seem to have with LJ was that it was all about him and what he did, whereas in that video he explicitly talks about the players and helping them make the right decisions. That last part is not a million miles of what Pearson wanted either. 100% agree. Some people have an aversion to what they would describe as management lingo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dan11 said: Ipswich fan here... Manning is a very impressive coach with quite a similar background to McKenna. He has spent years learning his craft, specialising as a coach after retiring from football young. He started coaching at Ipswich in his 20's and was very highly thought of before going to West Ham where he did an excellent job. He was then poached by and progressed through the ranks with the 'City Group' who don't just take any mug! His MK Dons side were fantastic (we played them a couple of times in L1) and they were extremely unfortunate not to get promoted with 89 points. If he hadn't lost everyone half decent from that side, he would have challenged again last year (thankfully for us he did and they didn't!). It is no surprise to me he has got Oxford playing great football and competing at the top of the league this year. If McKenna were to go tomorrow, I can guarantee he would be most Ipswich fans choice to take over. He shares the same footballing principles and also has a lot of the same personality qualities - very emotionally intelligent and players will love playing for him. His assistant (assuming he comes too) Chris Hogg is also a fantastic coach that was highly thought of here too and he ended up spending time at Newcastle as U23s coach. You're probably the person on here who knows most about Manning (based on all the posts made so far), so to hear good things is reassuring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Barnsley fans were angry with LJ when he left them and they remained angry for quite a while after. Rightly so.....three years later LJ had established us as a top half Championship side and taken us to a Cup semi final with Man City! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 I for one can't wait for the announcement so some can move on from pearson it's getting abit out of hand now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 When city fans say we've gone for the "cheap option" Such a dumb thing to say There is no such thing! A bad manager will cost a club millions in the long run 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Look and you shall find grasshopper. I'll take that as you have none then. Edited November 6, 2023 by RedRoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, johnheadbcfc said: I for one can't wait for the announcement so some can move on from pearson it's getting abit out of hand now As are the people moaning about the people moaning about Pearson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Are fans such as myself not allowed to have our concerns? I'll always support the team as I did on Saturday. However this guy gets no period of grace. And thats not his fault. That's on the owners. But by taking the job Manning knows the expectations he is under. He obviously feels as if he can meet those expectations. Of course....and I've got plenty. But when you say 'support the team' does that also mean 'support the manager' because that's not what it feels like. Maybe I've misjudged that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, RedRoss said: I'll take that as you have none then. You may take it as you will. It is of no consequence whatsoever to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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