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Randy Marsh II

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2015

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1 minute ago, Cristored said:

I think probably 20 sides in the division have a squad good enough for promotion - doesn’t mean it will happen though, I think Pearson gave the green light to too many poor transfers 

We don't have anything up front to go up. Not many teams get promoted from this league without a goalscorer who can score a minimum of 18 goals. 

I think inside the club the likes of BT rate the academy players higher than they actually are because Scott, Kelly and Semenyo were good players. We are pinning our hopes of Conway, Bell, Cornick and an old Wells to score our goals and to me it is one of the weakest attacks in the League. This is why we are nowhere near good enough to go up.

After the Scott sale there should have been money spent in this direction if within the club they were serious about promotion.

 

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Just now, 2015 said:

We don't have anything up front to go up. Not many teams get promoted from this league without a goalscorer who can score a minimum of 18 goals. 

I think inside the club the likes of BT rate the academy players higher than they actually are because Scott, Kelly and Semenyo were good players. We are pinning our hopes of Conway, Bell, Cornick and an old Wells to score our goals and to me it is one of the weakest attacks in the League. This is why we are nowhere near good enough to go up.

After the Scott sale there should have been money spent in this direction if within the club they were serious about promotion.

 

Former manager couldn’t get the best out of them. Up to LM now.

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11 minutes ago, Cristored said:

Purse strings will have been released long before then. 

Back the wrong horse (Coach) * and that won’t save you

 

Im not suggesting Manning is , or isn’t the right , or a right , coach to take us forward , I have a gut feeling but we will all eventually find out

Theyve rolled the dice and done so in the way they have acted ,and what they’ve done 

In Pontoon Nigel was a , a pair of 9s , a steady 18

They , are claiming that their headhunt will mean improved results and route to promotion whilst following the plan that NP was working with , the Club plan

They want 21 and have twisted

 

Will be interesting if you are still around for the long haul if things don’t go as well as you  predict

There will be some interesting posts and posters to reflect on , as the next few months churn by and we start to see the outcome

 

 

 

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Just now, Sheltons Army said:

Back the wrong horse (Coach) * and that won’t save you

 

Im not suggesting Manning is , or isn’t the right , or a right , coach to take us forward , I have a gut feeling but we will all eventually find out

Theyve rolled the dice and done so in the way they have

In Pontoon Nigel was a , a pair of 9s , a steady 18

They , are claiming that their headhunt will mean improved results and route to promotion whilst following the plan that NP was working with , the Club plan

They want 21 and have twisted

 

 

I don’t think they can expect LM to make real progress without bringing in players he wants - they might say the opposite but don’t believe it for a second, football doesn’t work that way.

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Just now, Cristored said:

All you have to do is see Wells and Cornick goal scoring record to see that he wasn’t.

I am on about the whole squad. Cornick has never been a prolific goalscorer at this level and Wells is getting on. Conway and Bell right now are simply not ready to be firing us to promotion.

If you look at the history of sides who go up from this League it is the goalscorers who generally make all the difference. We fall way short of that.

We could of signed Toney for 10 million 4 years ago but the Lansdowns don't understand that you have to spend big on a Striker if you want to achieve Promotion. I wish we had gone in for a Striker of that potential ilk after Scott was sold in the Summer. How we miss Semenyo too..

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7 minutes ago, Cristored said:

I don’t think they can expect LM to make real progress without bringing in players he wants - they might say the opposite but don’t believe it for a second, football doesn’t work that way.

In line with NPs spending yes ?

Following the Club plan yes....

 

Lets see

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18 minutes ago, 2015 said:

if they had just come out and said NP did a good job in stabilising the club during a difficult time and although there have been improvements we just want to go in a different direction then i'd have understood.

To come out and say they believe the squad is good enough to get promoted is unbelievable, we all know this side isn't as good as that. I can imagine they said that to NP and he told them we have no ******* chance especially after selling Scott.

I think the hierarchy did not like the fact NP was a realist compared to their utter delusions.

Your first paragraph is exactly what JL did say in his interview though.

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6 minutes ago, Cristored said:

I don’t think they can expect LM to make real progress without bringing in players he wants - they might say the opposite but don’t believe it for a second, football doesn’t work that way.

Well, they’ve said there’s no money in January. And they’ve said they expect to push for promotion this season. 
 

So I’d say yes, they really do expect him to wave a magic wand and turn the exact same group of players into top 6 contenders. 

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2 minutes ago, 2015 said:

I am on about the whole squad. Cornick has never been a prolific goalscorer at this level and Wells is getting on. Conway and Bell right now are simply not ready to be firing us to promotion.

If you look at the history of sides who go up from this League it is the goalscorers who generally make all the difference. We fall way short of that.

We could have signed Toney for 10 million 4 years ago but the Lansdowns don't understand that you have to spend big on a Striker if you want to achieve Promotion. I wish we had gone in for a Striker of that potential ilk after Scott was sold in the Summer. How we miss Semenyo too..

Yep but there is also a window of opportunity that you need to make the most of - we didn’t, Semenyo leaves, back to square 1.

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Well, they’ve said there’s no money in January. And they’ve said they expect to push for promotion this season. 
 

So I’d say yes, they really do expect him to wave a magic wand and turn the exact same group of players into top 6 contenders. 

I think they will give him tons of time.

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Just now, Sheltons Army said:

Ahhhhhhh

I see

So a LJ type project Mk II

This time , More Tinnions pet project , backed by a grinning Jon , than The Lansdowns project of LJ 

But basically Tins go

Excellent

Wouldn’t surprise me, the one difference is Manning has a far more impressive track record than LJ did.

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5 hours ago, petehinton said:

As I said in MDT, play like that against Boro and it’ll turn sour very quickly. That was really, really bad.
 

If anyone was of the opinion that Pearson not being a ‘touchline manager’ made Any difference during games, case in point it makes no difference whatsoever. I’ve no idea why we try to play through & not over first half, they had a very high line and we had pace on the wings. 
 

Southampton away after Boro too, talk about baptism of fire.  
 

JL & Tinnion currently writing up their narrative for back tracking re: this not being a top 6 squad. 

How about we review this after those games - when the manager have had time to even learn the players names.?!

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