formerly known as ivan Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Needs to be played on the right hand side. He looks completely lost on the left. Our goal today followed quickly by Conway’s chance both came from Sykes down the right hand side. Start of the second half he is back on the left and taken off for some reason not long into the second half. It was clear Bell should have come on for Weimann with Sykes moving to the right. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Red Ferret Posted December 3, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Substituting him off and leaving Weimann on was a pretty horrific decision 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 He's been our best player this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Nonsense decision to play him on the left. Nonsense decision to move him back to the left when our only attacking play came in the ten minutes he was on the right. Assuming no injury, one of the most nonsense decisions I’ve ever seen to take him off. Other than that I felt he was managed quite well today. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Red Ferret said: Substituting him off and leaving Weimann on was a pretty horrific decision He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, GrahamC said: He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. Pretty low bar there fella. Scott Murray would’ve offered more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ferret Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, GrahamC said: He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. Fair enough if it was a knock that forced him off. Disagree about Weimann though. I think his time here is done sadly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, GrahamC said: He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. Agree re the Mehmeti/Bell comparisons, but thought he should have done better for their first, initially knocked off the ball too easily and then didn’t work hard enough to get back in to cover the first time cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. I felt Mehmeti showed a bit more than in recent games and was more involved than Weimann. Not claiming he was exceptional by any stretch but I felt there were glimpses of a player there and I felt, with a little more confidence, a bit more might have come off. I honestly felt we looked better with him than with Weimann but, as @Engvall’s Splintersays, we’re not exactly debating a high standard of performance - more who was closer to a 5/10 and who was closer to a 6/10. Edited December 3, 2023 by LondonBristolian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, GrahamC said: He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. Weimann was not ok today as per norm he was dogshit, not in his own in that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Totally baffled by what the manager did to Sykes today our best attacking player being put out of position and the headless chicken Andy running around on the other wing doing nothing positive was madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Looked very tired today towards when he was subbed and so looked to be the right decision, but……to play him on the left to accommodate others is just crazy! His best moments, unsurprisingly were when he moved across to the right hand side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrizzler Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Sykes wasn't on the left for large parts of the game, him & Weimann kept swopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, Red Ferret said: Substituting him off and leaving Weimann on was a pretty horrific decision If it was an injury then maybe it had to be done. Has anyone confirmed this or are we making excuses in lieu of another terrible decision about where Sykes should be? 27 minutes ago, Ecko said: He's been our best player this season. One of them. Dickie and Knight are head and shoulders above the rest at the moment 25 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Pretty low bar there fella. Scott Murray would’ve offered more. My grandma would have at least made a cup of tea. Weimann is currently a bit crap. 19 minutes ago, frenchred said: Weimann was not ok today as per norm he was dogshit, not in his own in that either Dogshit is strong. I was thinking more utterly off it, who’s only contribution is arguing with the ref 17 minutes ago, winsaw said: Totally baffled by what the manager did to Sykes today our best attacking player being put out of position and the headless chicken Andy running around on the other wing doing nothing positive was madness LJ is back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, Red Ferret said: Substituting him off and leaving Weimann on was a pretty horrific decision Surely a knock but why oh why did switch back to the left after being so much more effective on the right? (And why did the Radio Bristol interviewer not ask Manning why?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, Red Ferret said: Substituting him off and leaving Weimann on was a pretty horrific decision Yes an absolutely baffling decision tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, GrahamC said: He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. Exactly Graham. Some don't have the intellectual capacity to think though so we get this knee jerk rubbish. Weimann's pass to Conway first half on the left was our best bit of play all game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, Ecko said: He's been our best player this season. Toss up between Sykes or Dickie for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, frenchred said: Weimann was not ok today as per norm he was dogshit, not in his own in that either Don't you mean "merde de chien"??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Toss up between Sykes or Dickie for me. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Thought it was very noticeable that he didn’t look as comfortable on the left at Southampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 It seems to me that sometimes modern coaches do something they think is funky because they believe it shows how sophisticated they are. Quite what Manning thought playing Sykes ludicrously out of position would achieve defeats me. Sometimes you have to play people out of position as a necessity but that wasn't the case today. I hope it's a one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, GrahamC said: He took a knock not long beforehand & went off a Saints with cramp. I knew there would be a Weimann pile on because we lost, he was ok today, offered far more than either Mehmeti or Bell did when they came on. Sykes is just about the only ‘forward’ who can both pass and take players on at pace, probably one of the few players a top six club would have in their squad. Weimann is just not suited to a possession based game, I’ve seen nothing to suggest that Mehmeti is of championship standard, Bell is pretty much a young Weimann, both suited to counter attacking play, our new system does neither any favours. If a manager tries to fit players into his preferred system when their basic attributes don’t fit the system will fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkwaymom Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 The fact that when Mehmeti came on he played on the right suggests that Manning doesn’t want wide players getting to the byline and crossing, but cutting in to play centrally. If that is his plan we will have several more games with players looking all at sea before we see any positive progress from playing that way. Time will tell but I’m not looking forward to watching the players flounder until they get with the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, formerly known as ivan said: Needs to be played on the right hand side. He looks completely lost on the left. Our goal today followed quickly by Conway’s chance both came from Sykes down the right hand side. Start of the second half he is back on the left and taken off for some reason not long into the second half. It was clear Bell should have come on for Weimann with Sykes moving to the right. Beat me to it. I was going to start a similar thread. On the left, his body shape is all wrong when he receives the ball, necessitating 2 or 3 touches by which time the space in front of him is closed down and he has to go backwards. On the right he can receive the ball on his right foot touch it in front into the space and he is away. I noticed this at Southampton and was surprised he started on the left again today. I thought Manning had realised it was a mistake and switched him to the right only to move him back 5 minutes later. Crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Parkwaymom said: The fact that when Mehmeti came on he played on the right suggests that Manning doesn’t want wide players getting to the byline and crossing, but cutting in to play centrally. If that is his plan we will have several more games with players looking all at sea before we see any positive progress from playing that way. Time will tell but I’m not looking forward to watching the players flounder until they get with the program. If the players are, in your words, to get with the program, then Manning will have to up his man management skills pdq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 I hope today saw the beginning and more hopefully the end, of the Sykes on the left experiment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Beat me to it. I was going to start a similar thread. On the left, his body shape is all wrong when he receives the ball, necessitating 2 or 3 touches by which time the space in front of him is closed down and he has to go backwards. On the right he can receive the ball on his right foot touch it in front into the space and he is away. I noticed this at Southampton and was surprised he started on the left again today. I thought Manning had realised it was a mistake and switched him to the right only to move him back 5 minutes later. Crazy. There was just no understanding between him and Pring either, looked like they had never met before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, formerly known as ivan said: There was just no understanding between him and Pring either, looked like they had never met before. Agree and Pring has stopped getting forward with any real purpose as a result / instruction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Agree and Pring has stopped getting forward with any real purpose as a result / instruction. Has to be an instruction, Tanner has never been the bomb forward type but Cam has, and that part of his game has gone, can’t be a coincidence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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