George Rs Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Didn’t know where to ask so thought I’d just start a new thread. For the people who know more about football than me, hypothetically if a team were to get a points deduction of this value and finish a season still in the negative points. Would they start the following season in the negative points to that value or would they get wiped to 0 like everyone else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 2,675-point deduction incoming for Man City. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Are you related to NTTDS?..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: 2,675-point deduction incoming for Man City. Hopefully not with 2,672 of them suspended though Edited December 12, 2023 by transfer reader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, archie andrews said: Are you related to NTTDS?..... got no clue who that is to be honest, tried Googling it and the only thing that came up was “North Texas Traditional Dance Society” if that’s what your asking then no I’m not related to it . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, George Rs said: got no clue who that is to be honest, tried Googling it and the only thing that came up was “North Texas Traditional Dance Society” if that’s what your asking then no I’m not related to it . Aww shucks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: 2,675-point deduction incoming for Man City. ....minus 2,674 points because the owner is a jolly nice chap, with the remaining 1 point deduction suspended for 1 year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 It would mean instant relegation. If it is more points than you can gain in a season maybe spread it over multiple years say a 500 point deduction or something equally mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, George Rs said: Didn’t know where to ask so thought I’d just start a new thread. For the people who know more about football than me, hypothetically if a team were to get a points deduction of this value and finish a season still in the negative points. Would they start the following season in the negative points to that value or would they get wiped to 0 like everyone else? Will they have to create a new term to describe this level of points deduction? "The Full Ponty" 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, archie andrews said: Are you related to NTTDS?..... Can't be . No bins in the photo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 12, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, downendcity said: Can't be . No bins in the photo! Also wasn't posted at 3am in the morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: 2,675-point deduction incoming for Man City. Still be above the gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Seems a little tokenistic to suspend the bulk of the deduction. A suspension easily avoided by just making sure Pontypridd only field eligible players. I know everyone is joking about it but this has absolutely no precedent or bearing on the Man City case. It's two completely different leagues, governed by totally different bodies. The offences aren't similar at all and it's just not going to be relevant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Super said: Still be above the gas. You went there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, George Rs said: Didn’t know where to ask so thought I’d just start a new thread. For the people who know more about football than me, hypothetically if a team were to get a points deduction of this value and finish a season still in the negative points. Would they start the following season in the negative points to that value or would they get wiped to 0 like everyone else? Is your title taking alliteration a little too far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Is your title taking alliteration a little too far? Easy for you to say! Edited December 12, 2023 by lenred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, lenred said: Easy for you to say! I've been practicing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Unless this revelation moves us to top of the Championship with promotion guaranteed then who gives a carp ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 135 points???? FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Used to have a decent rugby team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 The question is would they have to take all 135 at once, or enough points in perpetuity to always get relegated (with bullshit maths, at least 3 seasons) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, myol'man said: Used to have a decent rugby team Sure you’re that think of Pontypool and their famous front row? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 I don't know the answers but they'll be loving this in Merthyr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: 2,675-point deduction incoming for Man City. In all honesty if they (and Chelsea) have breached rules as heavily as implied- it would be great if the Prem and EFL worked together and they were made an example of and relegated to the bottom tier. Similar to Rangers when they had their debt crisis or relegation and points penalty like Juventus during the match-fixing scandal. The punishment needs to be an example and a deterrent. I have no faith this is what will happen though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, BCFC Rich said: In all honesty if they (and Chelsea) have breached rules as heavily as implied- it would be great if the Prem and EFL worked together and they were made an example of and relegated to the bottom tier. Similar to Rangers when they had their debt crisis or relegation and points penalty like Juventus during the match-fixing scandal. The punishment needs to be an example and a deterrent. I have no faith this is what will happen though. I would love it also. But come and dig me up when it happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, BCFC Rich said: In all honesty if they (and Chelsea) have breached rules as heavily as implied- it would be great if the Prem and EFL worked together and they were made an example of and relegated to the bottom tier. Similar to Rangers when they had their debt crisis or relegation and points penalty like Juventus during the match-fixing scandal. The punishment needs to be an example and a deterrent. I have no faith this is what will happen though. Man City have been particularly devious too. Obstructing legal proceedings and threatening journalists that crossed their path. If found guilty, it will be a huge story felt across the footballing ball, and I see no reason why the EFL should accept them (assuming they are given a massive points deduction/automatically relegated). The problem is it will become political and the UK government won't allow their friends in Abu Dhabi to be offended, or made to feel unwelcome. So they'll probably get off it somehow, even tho it is obvious they have been gaming the system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Man City have been particularly devious too. Obstructing legal proceedings and threatening journalists that crossed their path. If found guilty, it will be a huge story felt across the footballing ball, and I see no reason why the EFL should accept them (assuming they are given a massive points deduction/automatically relegated). The problem is it will become political and the UK government won't allow their friends in Abu Dhabi to be offended, or made to feel unwelcome. So they'll probably get off it somehow, even tho it is obvious they have been gaming the system. I seem to remember Juventus threatening to go through Italian civil courts and getting blocked because FIFA won't accept any form of government involvement in the running of the national leagues. I could have that wrong though. - Although in this scenario FIFA are arguably just as much in their pocket so probably wouldn't be an obstacle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 12, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, BCFC Rich said: In all honesty if they (and Chelsea) have breached rules as heavily as implied- it would be great if the Prem and EFL worked together and they were made an example of and relegated to the bottom tier. Two different businesses, would never stand up legally, same reason Villa dodged a bullet by getting promoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, phantom said: Two different businesses, would never stand up legally, same reason Villa dodged a bullet by getting promoe Just in theory now, in theory anyway. If and Aston Villa returned could the EFL reopen thst period to 2019. How long is a piece of string as to how long we could leave it or is it fairly pointless so far down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 135 points suspended ! Makes you wonder what else they could do that they haven't already done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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