ashton_fan Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 Sam Allison will be the first black referee to officiate a Premier League game today for the first time for 15 years. According to media stories he used to play for us, but I can't find anything about it online, I have no memory of him and I doubt he ever appeared for the first team. Can anyone else remember him being here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 I don’t remember him playing for us but do remember him signing for me on Football Manager!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 I could only find a record of actual appearances for Chippenham Town. He played for England schoolboys so it looks like he moved around as a youth prospect but didn't make the league grade, hence going into refereeing to keep up his participation in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 https://blackmorevale.net/former-wiltshire-firefighter-sam-allison-to-referee-in-the-premier-league/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swede Posted December 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 In today's world, I really don't know why anybody should be mentioning this. What has the colour of his skin tone got to do with him being any good as a referee? Nothing. 27 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 Quite the rise as he has barely refereed a Champ game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Quite the rise as he has barely refereed a Champ game Fast tracked just as Rebecca Welch was Its no surprise as Howard Webb was previously a police sergeant and fast tracking is a fairly common practice in the police. Edited December 26, 2023 by Robbored 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Swede said: In today's world, I really don't know why anybody should be mentioning this. What has the colour of his skin tone got to do with him being any good as a referee? Nothing. To highlight the lack of black referees I guess. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Swede said: Nothing. Exactly. So why has there been a 15 year gap? What is stopping individuals becoming referees or progressing through the system? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, ashton_fan said: According to media stories he used to play for us, but I can't find anything about it online, I have no memory of him and I doubt he ever appeared for the first team. Can anyone else remember him being here? Formed a great partnership up front with Junior Bent.... Remember him very clearly 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: Formed a great partnership up front with Junior Bent.... Remember him very clearly You joke, but I'll bet that some idiot of a journalist had confused him with the Chief and the rest have just followed on. The article that says he played for City also mentions him playing for Swindon. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: Formed a great partnership up front with Junior Bent.... Remember him very clearly Are you sure that you're not confusing him with Malcolm Allyson? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Calculus said: You joke, but I'll bet that some idiot of a journalist had confused him with the Chief and the rest have just followed on. The article that says he played for City also mentions him playing for Swindon. I thought that, but they’ve obviously got their info from the Premier League website that says he started at Swindon and moved to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Eddie Hitler said: I could only find a record of actual appearances for Chippenham Town. He played for England schoolboys so it looks like he moved around as a youth prospect but didn't make the league grade, hence going into refereeing to keep up his participation in football. He played for Bath City under Paul Bodin, he is from Melksham and related to Fitzroy Simpson who did play a few games for City. 45 minutes ago, Robbored said: Fast tracked just as Rebecca Welch was Rebecca Welches fast tracking has taken fifteen years. She was also an elite EUFA women's referee 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Quite the rise as he has barely refereed a Champ game Has anyone? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Rebecca Welches fast tracking has taken fifteen years. She was also an elite EUFA women's referee To reach the elite PL level in 13 years is fast tracking. She took up refereeing in 2010 becoming full time in 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Quite the rise as he has barely refereed a Champ game He refereed us against Norwich, what more experience do you need? Seriously I wish him the best of luck today and hope he gives confidence to other aspiring referees Edited December 26, 2023 by E.G.Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Swede said: In today's world, I really don't know why anybody should be mentioning this. What has the colour of his skin tone got to do with him being any good as a referee? Nothing. It’s worth mentioning as it proves the point that anyone can - and should do it without fear of prejudice? It might lead the way for others who may fear discrimination of whatever sort for whatever ‘reason’. When people from other minority groups are qualified enough and good enough they too could get elevated to that level - then it will become the norm to see them regularly and then - there won’t be any need to mention it on here no more than a referee who has ginger hair etc The OP didn’t say about how good he was as a ref other than an inference that he was good enough to referee in the Prem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: To highlight the lack of black referees I guess. Maybe due to them not wanting to do it or simply by not being good enough It's a non story really and only in this box ticking world we live in does it become relevant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Robbored said: To reach the elite PL level in 13 years is fast tracking. She took up refereeing in 2010 becoming full time in 2019. The individual started refffing prior to 2010. Taking fifteen years plus to ref in the EPL is not unusual, and well fifteen year is not fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Sam Allison will be the first black referee to officiate a Premier League game today for the first time for 15 years. According to media stories he used to play for us, but I can't find anything about it online, I have no memory of him and I doubt he ever appeared for the first team. Can anyone else remember him being here? From efl.com: ‘Having started his journey with Swindon Town, Allison moved on to the likes of Bristol City, Bournemouth and Exeter City, even making a handful of appearances for England schoolboys and representing Great Britain. He eventually dropped down into the semi-professional game with spells at Clubs including Bath City, Chippenham Town and Salisbury City. It was during one of these spells that he began toying with the idea of trying his hand at refereeing.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 Sam is a good man. Worked as a fireman at one point for Trowbridge Fire Service whilst also playing for Chippenham Town at the time. Wish him all the best. Thoroughly deserved. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 He's a local man, from Melksham. Worked for the Fire service at Trowbridge. Pretty sure he played youth games at Bath City, in the reserves maybe. Good to see a local guy from a small town do well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 I used to know Sam really well, but lost contact over the years. Has always been heavily involved in local football in Wiltshire running 5 a side leagues, soccer schools etc. He was at the Swindon school of excellence, and I believe he was on our books but never made an appearance, could be wrong. Wayne Allison is his cousin I think and Fitzroy Simpson his uncle? Watched him many times at Chippenham, on his day completely unplayable at that level could tell he had a higher pedigree, other days you barely knew he was there. He started refereeing at the very bottom, literally Chippenham & District Sunday league and has slowly worked his way up - albeit fast tracked a little over the last few years. Reffed a couple of games I played, honestly thought he was terrible, but he was just starting out then. Once booked me for diving which was a clear pen, never forgiven him. Great bloke though, wish him the best. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Maybe due to them not wanting to do it or simply by not being good enough It's a non story really and only in this box ticking world we live in does it become relevant I would doubt that there are any bars to entry. I suspect it's because referees receive abuse and ethnic referees probably receive more so a higher number drop out and fewer start in the first place. My take on this story is that the FA wants more referees so if they can increase participation by any group then they will release a PR story to do it, and on the quiet news day that is Boxing Day the press will run with it. I have never wanted to do this, I have only ever known one person who has, to my mind it's a thankless task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 Always found it odd that the route to top flight reffing is such a long one. Appreciate there are fitness standards they need to meet, but usually it's some bloke in their early 40s chasing after a load of highly tuned 20-somethings in the peak of their fitness. Which cannot be helpful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 hours ago, frenchred said: Maybe due to them not wanting to do it or simply by not being good enough It's a non story really and only in this box ticking world we live in does it become relevant Well that’s certainly one (blinkered) view I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 hours ago, MarcusX said: I used to know Sam really well, but lost contact over the years. Has always been heavily involved in local football in Wiltshire running 5 a side leagues, soccer schools etc. He was at the Swindon school of excellence, and I believe he was on our books but never made an appearance, could be wrong. Wayne Allison is his cousin I think and Fitzroy Simpson his uncle? Watched him many times at Chippenham, on his day completely unplayable at that level could tell he had a higher pedigree, other days you barely knew he was there. He started refereeing at the very bottom, literally Chippenham & District Sunday league and has slowly worked his way up - albeit fast tracked a little over the last few years. Reffed a couple of games I played, honestly thought he was terrible, but he was just starting out then. Once booked me for diving which was a clear pen, never forgiven him. Great bloke though, wish him the best. Great story cheers for sharing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Swede said: In today's world, I really don't know why anybody should be mentioning this. What has the colour of his skin tone got to do with him being any good as a referee? Nothing. Disproportionately low number of black officials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, mozo said: Disproportionately low number of black officials? What's an appropriate number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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