CityReds Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 6:40 onwards, the touch and vision is sublime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Good to see Ayman there too. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Good watch. Seems like a happy boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Harry’s such a nice welcoming guy. Whenever he comes on I really want him to score! Such a team player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, HappyClapper said: Good to see Ayman there too. Rob A's first full session for a while too. Hopefully some U21 minutes for him soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Good to see Big Rob out there too. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Looking at those first class training facilities, Scotty boy won’t want to be going back up north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, FNQ said: Looking at those first class training facilities, Scotty boy won’t want to be going back up north. Burnley training ground, whilst not called a High Perfomance Centre, looks no worse if not better than ours https://www.barnfieldconstruction.co.uk/portfolio-developments/barnfield-training-centre-for-burnley-fc-padiham/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 8 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Burnley training ground, whilst not called a High Perfomance Centre, looks no worse if not better than ours https://www.barnfieldconstruction.co.uk/portfolio-developments/barnfield-training-centre-for-burnley-fc-padiham/ Exterior is in fitting with Burnley. and… is that a carpeted changing room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS30 City Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Anyone know how often we use the bears indoor facilities. Thats the only disappointment with the HPC that they did not incorporate an indoor pitch in the plans. I am not sure how much scope there is to build one at a later date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 11 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Burnley training ground, whilst not called a High Perfomance Centre, looks no worse if not better than ours https://www.barnfieldconstruction.co.uk/portfolio-developments/barnfield-training-centre-for-burnley-fc-padiham/ Exterior looks awful. Like a concrete slab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 One thing I think looks different about our set up is the roles of Manning and Hogg. It has seemed common over the years that the Manager stays slightly away from the players, an has a more serious role, where as the coach is that link between the players and the Manager. Looking at these videos, Hogg looks the more serious and business like of the two while Manning is all smiles, chatting and joking with the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) 19 hours ago, CityReds said: 6:40 onwards, the touch and vision is sublime Anyone else think he “glides” with the ball like a certain someone. Might not replicate it in a match but he looks quite the twinkle toes in those clips. Edited January 20 by George Rs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 40 minutes ago, George Rs said: like a certain someone Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 24 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Who? Alex in some ways, TGH in others. Hard to describe why, but almost looks effortless to keep the ball under control, totally composed with it at his feet if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 19 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Burnley training ground, whilst not called a High Perfomance Centre, looks no worse if not better than ours https://www.barnfieldconstruction.co.uk/portfolio-developments/barnfield-training-centre-for-burnley-fc-padiham/ nice - and the interior isn't plastered with crass 'motivational' bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 9 hours ago, Lew-T said: Exterior looks awful. Like a concrete slab. Which still makes it the most attractive building in Burnley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 9 hours ago, Port Said Red said: One thing I think looks different about our set up is the roles of Manning and Hogg. It has seemed common over the years that the Manager stays slightly away from the players, an has a more serious role, where as the coach is that link between the players and the Manager. Looking at these videos, Hogg looks the more serious and business like of the two while Manning is all smiles, chatting and joking with the players. They can both really play the “bad cop” role, apparently. The last head coach/current set up we had, always had two side kicks. I think Hogg and Manning coming as a duo, with Hogg by all accounts being a very good coach (first team coach at Ipswich at 32/33 iirc, don’t get given that unless you’re any good) has given him more more license and authority to be a “leader” even as an assistant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, petehinton said: They can both really play the “bad cop” role, apparently. The last head coach/current set up we had, always had two side kicks. I think Hogg and Manning coming as a duo, with Hogg by all accounts being a very good coach (first team coach at Ipswich at 32/33 iirc, don’t get given that unless you’re any good) has given him more more license and authority to be a “leader” even as an assistant. Forgetting the dynamics with the players, I’m more interested in the dynamic between themselves. My only question is - do you want your assistant to always be on the same wavelength as you? Sometimes you might want different thoughts. Not saying Hogg is a yes man, far from it, but if he sees the game exactly the same as Manning (LM has said at times they are telepathic), is that always best? I’d like to hear from Hogg at some point. Just thinking out loud! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Forgetting the dynamics with the players, I’m more interested in the dynamic between themselves. My only question is - do you want your assistant to always be on the same wavelength as you? Sometimes you might want different thoughts. Not saying Hogg is a yes man, far from it, but if he sees the game exactly the same as Manning (LM has said at times they are telepathic), is that always best? I’d like to hear from Hogg at some point. Just thinking out loud! On a broad basis, I think the assistant needs to share the same philosophy as the manager - or you end up with markedly mixed messages (i.e you don’t have Pep being Warnocks assistant). The problem becomes when those philosophies become just mirror images of everything. We know that LM has a very set way he wants to play and we know when he’s failed it’s because (in part) of an intransigence to move away from that. As Hogg was also there at the time, I think it’s reasonable to ask if he challenged that intransigence - as it’s undeniably healthy to do so (whether the strategy is working - as it did at Oxford - or not). (Note: this is not me bringing up LMs prior sacking to have a go, it is exploring the dynamic between LM and CH. Feel I have to say that qualification at the moment…) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: On a broad basis, I think the assistant needs to share the same philosophy as the manager - or you end up with markedly mixed messages (i.e you don’t have Pep being Warnocks assistant). The problem becomes when those philosophies become just mirror images of everything. We know that LM has a very set way he wants to play and we know when he’s failed it’s because (in part) of an intransigence to move away from that. As Hogg was also there at the time, I think it’s reasonable to ask if he challenged that intransigence - as it’s undeniably healthy to do so (whether the strategy is working - as it did at Oxford - or not). (Note: this is not me bringing up LMs prior sacking to have a go, it is exploring the dynamic between LM and CH. Feel I have to say that qualification at the moment…) Yep, philosophy needs to be the same, but you want to have broader views. Not saying they don’t, just wondering what that dynamic is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Always remember when Downing and Simpson came in just after Holden was appointed and he said something about not just wanting to have your mate who agrees with everything you say, which felt like it might have been a bit of a pointed comment towards LJ and McAllister. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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