formerly known as ivan Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Racial abused at Shed Wed today. Video of it is pretty condemning. Vile act by the person involved. Genuinely what goes through peoples minds??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Just now, formerly known as ivan said: Racial abused at Shed Wed today. Video of it is pretty condemning. Vile act by the person involved. Genuinely what goes through peoples minds??? **** me they an Aryan team? Hope Weds fans got to the mug before the stewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 21 Admin Report Share Posted January 21 Terrible to see, there is some real scum in this world 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 A lot of Wednesday fans blaming Palmer for goading the crowd before it happened, including the Owls Till I Die podcast. Apparently if he hadn’t done that then he wouldn’t have got abused. Knuckledusters 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: A lot of Wednesday fans blaming Palmer for goading the crowd before it happened, including the Owls Till I Die podcast. Apparently if he hadn’t done that then he wouldn’t have got abused. Knuckledusters I know a couple of Wednesday fans and I've always thought they were a good bunch. Much nicer than their city rivals. But after the Bradley Lowery incident, and now this, I'm starting to wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Upset fans trying to justify racism because the opposition player was goading them is pathetic and scummy. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) Milan keeper Mike Maignan at Udinese too. https://news.sky.com/story/coventry-player-kasey-palmer-condemns-alleged-racist-abuse-made-during-sheffield-wednesday-match-13052966 Unbelievebale. Clubs and authorities making all the usual comments and condemnations’, but I can’t help thinking that yet again it will all get forgotten…until the next time. Edited January 21 by italian dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I'm saddened and appalled to here this. Especially for a former player. They is no place for racial abuse anywhere in today's multicultural society and really just underlines how backward and stupid some people are. So what if he was, so say, goading some home fans, there is absolutely no excuse. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I know a couple of Wednesday fans and I've always thought they were a good bunch. Much nicer than their city rivals. But after the Bradley Lowery incident, and now this, I'm starting to wonder. I can't get over the phrase "embarrassment to his colour". It comes across as a clear indication that this person sees black/white/asian/native American people as fundamentally different to each other and therefore expects them to exhibit different behaviour. Edited January 21 by ExiledAjax 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted January 21 Author Report Share Posted January 21 39 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I know a couple of Wednesday fans and I've always thought they were a good bunch. Much nicer than their city rivals. But after the Bradley Lowery incident, and now this, I'm starting to wonder. Ridiculous! If he was being that bad then call him a **** and move on. They really are trying to justify racism! The line, “I don’t condone any racism whatsoever but…” is absolutely disgusting. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Yes, surely there's plenty of insults you can throw without mentioning colour,use your imagination 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 10 minutes ago, Gimme Shelton said: Yes, surely there's plenty of insults you can throw without mentioning colour,use your imagination And players give all sorts during games but most people can cope without making it personal and as you say become racist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I liked Robins post match, said some abuse of players and managers has always been part of the game but racism is beyond that. The video is clear and Weds say they will punish him/them , I doubt he will see a home game for some time and rightly so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: I can't get over the phrase "embarrassment to his colour". It comes across as a clear indication that this person sees black/white/asian/native American people as fundamentally different to each other and therefore expects them to exhibit different behaviour. Personally, in this day and age labelling people "black and white" is so wrong. They are either a good footballer or not and that's down to your own opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Goading the crowd is part of the pantomime that is football. Racism, however, is not. No excuse. Kasey Palmer isn't exactly my favourite player and if I see him play us I'm sure I'll boo or something like that when he touches the ball. If he scores, I'm sure he will give it back! That people think an acceptable response to that is to racially abuse him is absolutely ridiculous, I hope the offending fans get a lifetime ban. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 20 minutes ago, Swede said: Personally, in this day and age labelling people "black and white" is so wrong. They are either a good footballer or not and that's down to your own opinion. I think in context you can use those terms. They are factual - someone is black, white or anything else. Just as they are short, tall or medium height for example. I wouldn't want to shut down proper debate on this by straight up banning certain words. For me though the trouble with the phrase "embarrassment to his colour" is that it suggests that the person speaking it is able to sets the standard for acceptable behaviour in a group of people defined by skin colour. Also that the speaker then is the judge of when those standards are broken. It suggests that the behaviour is only unacceptable because it's a black man doing it. That's wrong. That's an attempt at control, and is an indication of a belief in the superiority and power of one group over another. Jamie Vardy (and dozens of others) chat shit to fans all the time...but I've never heard Vardy called an "embarrassment to his colour". 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Are we saying that any abuse is ok as long as it’s not racist ? Is it ok to abuse officials? Proper double standards 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 And sure enough, the whataboutery starts. Ace. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: The video is clear and Weds say they will punish him/them , I doubt he will see a home game for some time and rightly so. The least of his worries given the fan that showed the image of Bradley Lowery got 200 hours community service and a 12-month suspended prison sentence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 39 minutes ago, shelts said: Are we saying that any abuse is ok as long as it’s not racist ? Is it ok to abuse officials? Proper double standards There's obviously different levels of abuse isn't there... Saying someone is 'shit' is slightly different to racially abusing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: I know a couple of Wednesday fans and I've always thought they were a good bunch. Much nicer than their city rivals. But after the Bradley Lowery incident, and now this, I'm starting to wonder. Amazing isn’t it! So fans can goad opposition players, boo them at every corner, laugh at them when they get injured, call them every name under the sun etc etc and players are expected to develop a thick skin and ignore it week after week after week, but the moment fans are goaded by a player, then it’s perfectly acceptable for fans to react in any way they choose. Sorry no excuses for that behaviour. Edited January 21 by JP Hampton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, DaveF said: There's obviously different levels of abuse isn't there... Saying someone is 'shit' is slightly different to racially abusing them. I met Kasey a few times when he training with the 21s and out of the picture . He was a nice lad . Racial abuse creeping back in . Not heard it recently at the Gate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, And Its Smith said: A lot of Wednesday fans blaming Palmer for goading the crowd before it happened, including the Owls Till I Die podcast. Apparently if he hadn’t done that then he wouldn’t have got abused. Knuckledusters It's very hypocritical of some fans who goad players with chants during the game but when the player goads back all of a sudden it's the player who is out of order! Weird logic! Regarding Wednesday fans justifying racial abuse, the mind boggles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: It's very hypocritical of some fans who goad players with chants during the game but when the player goads back all of a sudden it's the player who is out of order! Weird logic! Regarding Wednesday fans justifying racial abuse, the mind boggles! Yeah see my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: I know a couple of Wednesday fans and I've always thought they were a good bunch. Much nicer than their city rivals. But after the Bradley Lowery incident, and now this, I'm starting to wonder. Ah, the classic "I'm not a racist but..." . Which immediately tells you the person is in fact a racist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 6 hours ago, JP Hampton said: Yeah see my post Sorry am I not allowed to comment??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 9 hours ago, Gimme Shelton said: Yes, surely there's plenty of insults you can throw without mentioning colour,use your imagination Exactly - he is a shit, lazy, flash in the pan (occassionally) show pony. Being Black, White or any other race, has no bearing on that & is a stupidly wrong thing to bring into the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 19 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Racial abused at Shed Wed today. Video of it is pretty condemning. Vile act by the person involved. Genuinely what goes through peoples minds??? Probably a Yorkshire CCC member ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 41 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Sorry am I not allowed to comment??? What do you mean? I’m agreeing! Was just saying yes and pointing out the fact that my post agrees with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted January 21 Admin Report Share Posted January 21 Not sure how you’d police this suggestion, what’s to stop ‘match fixing’ by someone who isn’t a fan of a club attending, abusing and the the match is forfeit. Seems to be an easy way to nobble a rival. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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