Sheltons Army Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Ismael sacked by Watford Thats a shock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 To be fair to Watford they stuck with him far longer than they have with loads of managers before him & considering they’re a parachute payment club, their results have been crap. He can hardly complain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Cleverley interim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Cleverley interim. Inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreThePigs Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Did a great job at Barnsley - struggled since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 21 minutes ago, GrahamC said: To be fair to Watford they stuck with him far longer than they have with loads of managers before him & considering they’re a parachute payment club, their results have been crap. He can hardly complain. That club deserves everything it gets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) Tbh a lot of our fans are happy he has gone and some say it’s over due , Trouble is we have all this “he had to go” stuff but then appoint someone else who soon turns out to not be much better or worse ! The owners aren’t popular at all but on this one there probably won’t be many tears shedded. The fans want attacking , positive football but then the modern game is about possession isn’t it really ? Edited March 9 by Markthehorn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) Sacking Edwards a mistake...sacking NP a bigger one. NP plus Parachute Payments would have had a good chance to both take back up and build back stronger. They've made a few sackings which were too soon or just seemed plain incorrect down the years though. Edited March 9 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Watford Managers entrance . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Sacking Edwards a mistake...sacking NP a bigger one. NP plus Parachute Payments would have had a good chance to both take back up and build back stronger. They've made a few sackings which were too soon or just seemed plain incorrect down the years though. Good point on NP at Watford forgot about that. What is it they say? Once is a coincidence, twice is a pattern? Edited March 9 by Fjmcity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Just now, Fjmcity said: Good point on NP at Watford forgot about that. What is it they say? Once is a coincidence, twice is a.. Lot of erratic owners around. Football wise I think they would have been in safe hands. Parachute Payments, keeping key players and a solid tactical framework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Lot of erratic owners around. Football wise I think they would have been in safe hands. Parachute Payments, keeping key players and a solid tactical framework. He was actually doing wonders there and he probably would have kept them up, if only he’d kept his mouth shut I guess. seems to be a bit of the old self sabotage in nige, maybe he doesn’t think he’s good enough. Low self esteem is fixable though 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fjmcity said: He was actually doing wonders there and he probably would have kept them up, if only he’d kept his mouth shut I guess. seems to be a bit of the old self sabotage in nige, maybe he doesn’t think he’s good enough. Low self esteem is fixable though Hmm a tough last 2 games, could've gone either way- but he did brilliantly well to pull them back in with a realistic chance. Man City Home, Arsenal Away..challenging but Arsenal had the Cup final, all behind Closed Doors due to Covid, Man City not winning anything. Maybe they don't lose by 4 v Man City under NP and GD kicks in. That was an Arsenal rebuilding under Arteta too, certainly far from the force of now. Often think he is quite unlucky in his sackings. Cotts perhaps another. Edited March 9 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) Person was definitely sacked for non footballing reasons - he was only co contracted till the end of the season which was a week away. Very odd but then then what isn’t with us ! Edwards had a row with Pozzo which is he went early - obviously he had the last laugh . Tbh a lot of our fans are happy he has gone and some say it’s over due , Trouble is we have all this “he had to go” stuff but then appoint someone else who soon turns out to not be much better or worse ! The owners aren’t popular at all but on this one there probably won’t be many tears shedded as has been the case for a lot of the sackings really. Like I say its not so much the change of manager but who gets appointment next that seems to be the issue . Edited March 9 by Markthehorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) Barnsley aside, Ismael and his sides seem to run out of steam. At West Brom they were up there with Fulham and Bournemouth mid October, lot of points. Even moving towards November, December moving towards top 6. Seemed to collapse thereafter, our by early to mid February iirc. Watford I thought he was getting it together after a poor start, then Watford from the outside morphed into an erratic unpredictable midtable side..then form seems to have nosedived. Edited March 9 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 I’d have him over Manning. His Barnsley side was outstanding, plus had good experience as a player, winning major honours at clubs like Bayern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Just now, Shauntaylor85 said: I’d have him over Manning. His Barnsley side was outstanding, plus had good experience as a player, winning major honours at clubs like Bayern. Seemed to play very different football here to with them . Much more about keeping the ball and passing it around the back. Maybe that was the problem? Squad didn’t adapt to him or he didn’t to our players abilities . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Markthehorn said: Seemed to play very different football here to with them . Much more about keeping the ball and passing it around the back. Maybe that was the problem? Squad didn’t adapt to him or he didn’t to our players abilities . Sounds very similar to our experience with Manning tbh! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Cleverley interim. 1 win in 10? Try 2 in 13.... Massive game tomorrow for Manning and the future direction of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: Sounds very similar to our experience with Manning tbh! Mind you some managers we have lost or got rid of have done well elsewhere. Dyche Edwards Silva (eventually) Jokanavic (at Fulham anyway ) Even Hodgson did well at Palace for a bit. Somewhere someone has got to get a chance but both owners and now fans want change at the first sign of trouble. Edited March 10 by Markthehorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Markthehorn said: Seemed to play very different football here to with them . Much more about keeping the ball and passing it around the back. Maybe that was the problem? Squad didn’t adapt to him or he didn’t to our players abilities . As you’ll know to play Ismael-ball you need to have players ready to run through brick walls for you and each other. Barnsley did because I think they sensed they were “lesser” players who could achieve on that way of playing. However at West Brom, some players - the technicians - started to rebel, and down the slippery slope they went. Watford are hardly blessed with players if the character to play that way either, so he’s had to adapt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Fjmcity said: He was actually doing wonders there and he probably would have kept them up, if only he’d kept his mouth shut I guess. seems to be a bit of the old self sabotage in nige, maybe he doesn’t think he’s good enough. Low self esteem is fixable though Up there with one of the worst posts I’ve seen in a while. What nonsense. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 3 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: That club deserves everything it gets job for manning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 6 hours ago, David Brent said: Up there with one of the worst posts I’ve seen in a while. What nonsense. Have a closer look around and just wait till you read some of the things people write completely seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 I see he lasted 10 months, thats testimonial stuff there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 9 hours ago, Markthehorn said: Mind you some managers we have lost or got rid of have done well elsewhere. Dyche Edwards Silva (eventually) Jokanavic (at Fulham anyway ) Even Hodgson did well at Palace for a bit. Somewhere someone has got to get a chance but both owners and now fans want change at the first sign of trouble. To be fair, just by the law of averages there must be lots of ex Watford managers out there doing well, as well as lots doing badly, lots doing just OK, and lots not working. Ismael was their 11th manager since Jan 2018, and that's not counting caretakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Stripe Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Off topic but I'd be a happy chappie if City had had the same success in the league as Watford have had. And others... Palace, Norwich etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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