Super Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 One of the most bizarre managerial appointments I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11890/13141309/vincent-kompany-burnley-boss-is-bayern-munich-s-preferred-choice-to-become-new-head-coach-sky-in-germany You would have to say it’s a fairly “left field” appointment. Leading a team to relegation from the Premier League to becoming manager at a 5-time European champion club that prior to this season had won 11 league titles in a row? The odds on that even a week ago must have been pretty high. In some ways it’s even more baffling now, given that Pochettino has left Chelsea, is more experienced, and has a far more impressive CV, including getting Spurs to a Champions League Final, as well as his time at PSG, winning both Ligue 1 and the Coupe de France. He even had a greater than 50% win rate at Chelsea and achieved qualification for European football next season, despite the mess the owners have made of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 12 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11890/13141309/vincent-kompany-burnley-boss-is-bayern-munich-s-preferred-choice-to-become-new-head-coach-sky-in-germany You would have to say it’s a fairly “left field” appointment. Leading a team to relegation from the Premier League to becoming manager at a 5-time European champion club that prior to this season had won 11 league titles in a row? The odds on that even a week ago must have been pretty high. In some ways it’s even more baffling now, given that Pochettino has left Chelsea, is more experienced, and has a far more impressive CV, including getting Spurs to a Champions League Final, as well as his time at PSG, winning both Ligue 1 and the Coupe de France. He even had a greater than 50% win rate at Chelsea and achieved qualification for European football next season, despite the mess the owners have made of things. There is some similarity between Bayern and Chelsea in that the manager has limited power over recruitment. Tuchel turned down the offer to stay for that reason. So it probably wouldn't have suited Poch either. Presumably Kompany is prepared to accept a lack of control. He certainly seems to be failing upwards though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 Kompany to Bayern seems a goer then. Burnley enter a raft of EFL clubs in the market for a manager. Lots of pieces still to be moved, surely us and Liam won’t ever get caught up in it? Another interesting twist today is McKenna apparently turning down fresh terms with Ipswich amid interest from other clubs, possibly including Chelsea! Birmingham have potentially found their man in Alex Neil, despite Brum fans seeming to think they could have their pick of any manager in the world… you’re League 1 fellas. Humble yourselves. Ten Hag also possibly gone. I can’t remember the managerial market ever being in utter chaos but that’s how it feels right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 On 21/05/2024 at 19:21, Davefevs said: Manager merry go round could be more exciting than the player window! It’s utterly out of control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: It’s utterly out of control And they all seem to be falling over themselves to appoint McKenna as the new saviour. Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 10 minutes ago, chinapig said: Presumably Kompany is prepared to accept a lack of control. He won't, not in the slightest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 4 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: And they all seem to be falling over themselves to appoint McKenna as the new saviour. Amazing! Massive if he goes. Luton, Sheff U and Burnley have showed Ipswich the size of their task next season. Now they’re losing the man whose led them their with back to back promotions. Get the replacement wrong and next season could be an utter disaster for them (). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 45 minutes ago, petehinton said: 1. **** me, his agent deserves all the money he earns. How’s he managed to blag that? 2. Wonder if that makes things easier or more complicated re signing Twine on a perm. 2 was my first thought as well! In fact, the only thing that really interests me about it! I'd guess in the short term holds up any decisions from Burnley - they'll want the new manager to decide. But who knows.....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 4 minutes ago, Lrrr said: He won't, not in the slightest Yet I can't see Bayern changing their approach. We'll see I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Fpcity said: A lot of modern managers have the gift of gab and know what chairman etc nowadays wants to hear. Yes. Rosenior is another. Some managers seem to not entirely fail upwards but rise without trace when they don't merit it. Kompany to Bayern is ridiculous. Whatever next, Joey Barton to Burnley? Edited May 22 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 55 minutes ago, petehinton said: his agent deserves all the money he earns She certainly spends it! Mrs Kompany is his agent! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, chinapig said: Yet I can't see Bayern changing their approach. We'll see I guess. Kompany is a control freak, oversees literally everything to a greater extent then a normal manager (as opposed to a head coach) would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Kompany is a control freak, oversees literally everything to a greater extent then a normal manager (as opposed to a head coach) would. Even made the plan look like him! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythikRobins Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 No wonder some managers are so "uncompromising" in their styles look where it can get you (a legendary playing career helps too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 14 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Kompany is a control freak, oversees literally everything to a greater extent then a normal manager (as opposed to a head coach) would. I can see some entertaining disputes with the all-powerful Bayern hierarchy then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 15 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Kompany is a control freak, oversees literally everything to a greater extent then a normal manager (as opposed to a head coach) would. Which is why the chronic mismanagement re scattergun recruitment and failure of Burnley’s season is his and his alone. Bayern may win the Bundesliga next year - Leverkuesen can’t have as good a season and Bayern have inherent quality. But if what you say is right - and I have no reason to disbelieve - then he should be nowhere near that job based on what happened under his “control” at Burnley. Call him Vince King and he doesn’t touch that job. Correctly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 16 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Which is why the chronic mismanagement re scattergun recruitment and failure of Burnley’s season is his and his alone. Bayern may win the Bundesliga next year - Leverkuesen can’t have as good a season and Bayern have inherent quality. But if what you say is right - and I have no reason to disbelieve - then he should be nowhere near that job based on what happened under his “control” at Burnley. Call him Vince King and he doesn’t touch that job. Correctly. You shit on what's happened there regularly but the plan was consistent by large and not scattergun, you will get a couple of things wrong when you recruit 15 players in a season but there was a plan of generally recruiting younger players with value which can be developed & hope you've got enough to stay up. People quote the spending £100m thing, is that bad if you then make £125m back in sales if they leave this summer? Not many of Burnley's players would have decreased in value this season because of the exposure those players have been given by playing in the PL. Despite the £100m spent that squad was still a good £150m short of squad value of last years 17th team, as said in a different thread the value in squads is just becoming too much for newly promoted teams to compete with. Frankly the tactical changes in Burnley's style of play came too late in the season whereas if the season had started with them there would have been a good chance of staying up. Not to add the fact Burnley often got shafted by VAR last season, Dermot Gallagher on ref watch on Monday mornings regularly saying so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 8 minutes ago, Lrrr said: You shit on what's happened there regularly but the plan was consistent by large and not scattergun, you will get a couple of things wrong when you recruit 15 players in a season but there was a plan of generally recruiting younger players with value which can be developed & hope you've got enough to stay up. People quote the spending £100m thing, is that bad if you then make £125m back in sales if they leave this summer? Not many of Burnley's players would have decreased in value this season because of the exposure those players have been given by playing in the PL. Despite the £100m spent that squad was still a good £150m short of squad value of last years 17th team, as said in a different thread the value in squads is just becoming too much for newly promoted teams to compete with. Frankly the tactical changes in Burnley's style of play came too late in the season whereas if the season had started with them there would have been a good chance of staying up. Not to add the fact Burnley often got shafted by VAR last season, Dermot Gallagher on ref watch on Monday mornings regularly saying so. I’ll absolutely shit on it regularly. You recruit 15 players in a close season then it takes a miracle worker to get that into anywhere near a coherent team. Kompany isn’t that miracle worker. The fact is that £100m spent wisely should give you half a chance at staying up, and they were nowhere near it at any stage - VAR or otherwise. And 15 signings is scattergun. It’s throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. If we sign 15 players this summer how will you view that? The £100m spent outweighed what Edwards spent. What Bournemouth spent when going up. What Brentford spent when going up. What Brighton spent when going up. The game hasn’t changed that much - £20m a player on 5 players to add to a title winning squad should be enough for any manager. And the fact it was nowhere near enough just says where he is. And if his tactical change didn’t happen until late that just shows naivety. Look through Burnley opinions - the majority aren’t sorry to see him go. He’s fallen up with no good cause. Brilliant footballer no doubt, but as a manager? Deserves to be “shit on”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 Completely bizarre managerial appointment if it goes ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, BCFCGav said: It’s utterly out of control I was saying a couple of weeks ago that it was a quite unusual season in the Prem for managerial changes. Only 3 clubs sacked managers during the season - Sheff Utd, Forest & Palace. Thats a very low number. Compared to the championship this season which I think was 14 clubs changing manager - some more than once. I felt that it likely meant a very busy summer for management changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 11 hours ago, Fpcity said: A lot of modern managers have the gift of gab and know what chairman etc nowadays wants to hear. Baffling with bullshit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Even made the plan look like him! All I’ve heard on the radio this morning is Tories talking about “the plan”. Don’t you start too… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 If this does happen, then cue the Netflix documentary - 'From Burnley to Bayern, whippets to wurstbrot'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Only in football do people get rewarded for failure - imagine out of all the managers they were linked with they ended up with Kompany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 16 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Only in football do people get rewarded for failure - imagine out of all the managers they were linked with they ended up with Kompany Must have been about 10th choice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 31 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Only in football do people get rewarded for failure - imagine out of all the managers they were linked with they ended up with Kompany I read that several well established and high profile managers turned the Bayern job down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 36 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Only in football do people get rewarded for failure - imagine out of all the managers they were linked with they ended up with Kompany Football and politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: I read that several well established and high profile managers turned the Bayern job down. He is well established and high profile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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