just like watching brazil Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 just come back from the minimal ground,and tinman and co should go down and take a look at them.there is a team that showed great commitment,bottle,courage, and has a great team spirit with a good coach.I was on the edge of my seat for the whole 100 mins unlike yesterday at times i was falling asleep,they were not afraid to get stuck into dallaglio and co unlike our defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidernuta Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Out of interest what was the score with the rugby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whooosh Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Didn't win though did they! You have to have that little bit of class as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just like watching brazil Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Out of interest what was the score with the rugby? ← 33-43 aet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
England Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 wow, what a club, even if they finish first they won't get promotion because they don't have their own ground - sold it to the gas for a quid wasn't it and if they play on a proper pitch they ruin it with silly painted lines and wanting long grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 wow, what a club, even if they finish first they won't get promotion because they don't have their own ground - sold it to the gas for a quid wasn't it and if they play on a proper pitch they ruin it with silly painted lines and wanting long grass ← In fairness, what sort of a club are we? One which thinks it has a divine right to be in the Premiership and yet cannot even spend it's way out of the "Third Division" despite getting two to three times the gate of most of it's competitors. And which loses £1million plus every year. And grossly overpays very average professional footballers. And is reliant on Directors not to call in their loans which are being paid back at 2-3% above Barclays base rate and are secured on Ashton Gate. Not particularly impressive is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_red Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 we are a laughing stock, at the end of the day when we lose to teams who are about the same class that play in schoolboy leagues, however upset and angry i am, i always end up and having a chuckle its a bit like tottenham who are supposed to get in to europe every season. I say they should stop spending money and use some of the players who actually care about city, like me, i should start next game. Well this has gone on long enough and casualty's on so i am going to watch that, do you i know charlie's son and he is actually called charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 just come back from the minimal ground,and tinman and co should go down and take a look at them.there is a team that showed great commitment,bottle,courage, and has a great team spirit with a good coach.I was on the edge of my seat for the whole 100 mins unlike yesterday at times i was falling asleep,they were not afraid to get stuck into dallaglio and co unlike our defenders. ← Yep and if we'd been playing the european champions yesterday we'd have shown exactly the sort of qualities you're talking about and put in a magnificant performance before gallanty succombing to superior opposition. thing is we weren't and thats our problem - we seem to have the attitude that the likes of Luton aren't worthy to be on the same pitch of us and just think we have a divine right to beat them - hence you get the uninspiring gutless spineless crap that we watched yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOLMANDAN Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 In fairness, what sort of a club are we? One which thinks it has a divine right to be in the Premiership and yet cannot even spend it's way out of the "Third Division" despite getting two to three times the gate of most of it's competitors. And which loses £1million plus every year. And grossly overpays very average professional footballers. And is reliant on Directors not to call in their loans which are being paid back at 2-3% above Barclays base rate and are secured on Ashton Gate. Not particularly impressive is it? ← How u know this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOLMANDAN Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 In fairness, what sort of a club are we? One which thinks it has a divine right to be in the Premiership and yet cannot even spend it's way out of the "Third Division" despite getting two to three times the gate of most of it's competitors. And which loses £1million plus every year. And grossly overpays very average professional footballers. And is reliant on Directors not to call in their loans which are being paid back at 2-3% above Barclays base rate and are secured on Ashton Gate. Not particularly impressive is it? ← Sorry this was addressed to Greebo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 How u know this ← I thought evryone knew all of it. Which bit didn't you know about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 In fairness, what sort of a club are we? One which thinks it has a divine right to be in the Premiership and yet cannot even spend it's way out of the "Third Division" despite getting two to three times the gate of most of it's competitors. And which loses £1million plus every year. And grossly overpays very average professional footballers. And is reliant on Directors not to call in their loans which are being paid back at 2-3% above Barclays base rate and are secured on Ashton Gate. Not particularly impressive is it? ← How many times do people bring this up. The facts aren't that simplistic. I don't think you would get many offers from these banks to finance any loan to Bristol City. It isn't a matter of us shopping around for the best deal. We have to take what we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 How many times do people bring this up. The facts aren't that simplistic. I don't think you would get many offers from these banks to finance any loan to Bristol City. It isn't a matter of us shopping around for the best deal. We have to take what we can get. ← My point has nothing to do with whether we have loans on the best deal. More the fact that as a club we are in a bit of a mess at the moment, paying vastly inflated salaries in relation to both our income and the return given to us by the management and players, thus losing money hand over fist every year. Therefore it is a little bit rich, in my opinion of course, for some of our supporters to have a pop at the Rugby Club who at least manage to provide Top Level Sport to the Bristol public every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest east_dundry_red Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 wow, what a club, even if they finish first they won't get promotion because they don't have their own ground - sold it to the gas for a quid wasn't it and if they play on a proper pitch they ruin it with silly painted lines and wanting long grass ← If they finish first they are GARANTEED promotion and the RFU have told them this is the past 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Good point - Bristol City FC should take a look at the way Bristol Rugby is run. Bristol Rugby had their ground literally stolen from them by the Gas. Bristol Rugby had Martin Pearce - their former Chairman - pull out leaving them almost bankrupt. Bristol Rugby have come back from all these upsets to almost beat Wasps in the cup. Wasps are one of the finest Premiership rugby union sides in this country and Div 1 Bristol gave them a real fright on Sunday. Mind you we did almost beat Everton in the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 My point has nothing to do with whether we have loans on the best deal. More the fact that as a club we are in a bit of a mess at the moment, paying vastly inflated salaries in relation to both our income and the return given to us by the management and players, thus losing money hand over fist every year. Therefore it is a little bit rich, in my opinion of course, for some of our supporters to have a pop at the Rugby Club who at least manage to provide Top Level Sport to the Bristol public every once in a while. ← Fair enough, it's just something I keep hearing banded around. As for the rugby, city should take a leaf out of their books as they all seem to want to play for each other. Something we sorely miss! The play with pride and passion. My only problem with the rugby is the location! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmerD Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 How about they also have a look at the other "club" in Bristol that has been doing rather well in recent seasons and have just managed to but back their own ground. A trophy again this year, managed to stay in League One of the Championship and this was after losing the two star players. A team made up of talented individuals all playing for each other and not one big time charlie who can't be arsed. Arise Sir Mark Alleyne, you shall be awarded the freedom of Bristol - Tins pick up the phone and find out how being a player & manager is really done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 In fairness, what sort of a club are we? One which thinks it has a divine right to be in the Premiership and yet cannot even spend it's way out of the "Third Division" despite getting two to three times the gate of most of it's competitors. And which loses £1million plus every year. And grossly overpays very average professional footballers. And is reliant on Directors not to call in their loans which are being paid back at 2-3% above Barclays base rate and are secured on Ashton Gate. Not particularly impressive is it? Shhhh, don't you know that you're not allowed to criticise the Directors? Even though they are the people who have allowed this club to get into the state it's in, they are above criticism............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albany P reds Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 Think Micky Bell was thinking of Bristol Rugby club when he took that pen at blackpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 Wasps had plenty of players rested, but hey, i see what your saying. To get out of this division needs a good team spirit and a bunch of grafters. They way in which plymouth showed, and luton are showing it now, play for the shirt, the fans and each other. Grind out the results week in week out. Bristol should never have got relegated, and nor should we of. But they have improved and are sitting pretty at the top, we are mid table. and in all honesty, we deserve to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 By the way we played on saturday you would think tinns has been watching the shoguns! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Wasps have been kicked out of the Powergen cup for fielding a cup tied player in the game against Bristol. Bristol have been re-instated and will play Gloucester in the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Wasps have been kicked out of the Powergen cup for fielding a cup tied player in the game against Bristol. Bristol have been re-instated and will play Gloucester in the next round. Bet the player who forgot to mention that he was cup-tied is popular with his Wasps team-mates today!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfster Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Bristol Rugby had their ground literally stolen from them by the Gas. ← Do your homework before you post rubbish like this. Yes we bought the ground cheep, but inherited over £1m in debt in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobin108 Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Do your homework before you post rubbish like this. Yes we bought the ground cheep, but inherited over £1m in debt in the process. ← Still brought the ground on the cheap, typical dunford crooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfster Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Still brought the ground on the cheap, typical dunford crooks. ← What part of 'inherited £1m debt' didn't you understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 What part of 'inherited £1m debt' didn't you understand? How can you inherit a debt when you buy a stadium? Surely a stadium is an asset, not a debt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfster Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 How can you inherit a debt when you buy a stadium? Surely a stadium is an asset, not a debt! ← Think again dumbass. You buy the asset and if any debt comes with it, you inherit it also. It's like buying a car with money outstanding due on it, if you take the car on, you also take on the outstanding payments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Think again dumbass. You buy the asset and if any debt comes with it, you inherit it also. It's like buying a car with money outstanding due on it, if you take the car on, you also take on the outstanding payments! Thank you for calling me "dumbass", I really appreciate it. So, if I buy a house from somebody and they have £100k outstanding on their mortgage, I have to pay their mortgage debt as well as my own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfster Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Thank you for calling me "dumbass", I really appreciate it. So, if I buy a house from somebody and they have £100k outstanding on their mortgage, I have to pay their mortgage debt as well as my own? ← Yep. The total debt on the house needs to be paid (by whoever is the current owner). You don't honestly believe that you can just write off a debt of say £100,000 owing on a Ferrari just because you're the new owner do you? Somewhere along the line, the outstanding debt needs to be paid back to the lender. If you take on the property, you have to take on the outstanding debt along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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