Northern Red Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Based on what I've seen tonight, I think we should break the bank to get him. He's exactly what we're looking for. Big, strong, not afraid to get stuck in.Obviously if Hartelpool go up, then we've no chance, but if at all possible, we should definately go for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins72 Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 yes but he would cost us MONEY so we will end up with Heywood end of. But yes hes a great defender no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex1089 Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Fantastic defender, probably out of our range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tactical Genius Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Once more with feeling.Nelson's career is on the up. Why the hell would he want to join an obscure third division club like Bristol City when we couldn't even afford the transfer fee or his wages or give him the level of football that he is heading towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Gows' Tash Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Once more with feeling.Nelson's career is on the up. Why the hell would he want to join an obscure third division club like Bristol City when we couldn't even afford the transfer fee or his wages or give him the level of football that he is heading towards.←No idea - maybe cos of the positive attitude of the fans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 No idea - maybe cos of the positive attitude of the fans ?← Actually i thought he was Sean Dyte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I have from a decent source heard that Marcus Stewart has signed a 2 year contract and will be announced in 3 weeks when he gets back from his holiday.←nelson is quailty and it would depend on if hartlepool go up or notweather we could tempt him to ashton gate, but he would be a greatsigning and just what we need at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Actually i thought he was Sean Dyte.←Or Dyche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinnionsLeftPeg Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 ive seen him afew times,most recently vs bournemouth, nothing special,certainly not worth breaking bank for when theres plenty of quality free players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 ive seen him afew times,most recently vs bournemouth, nothing special,certainly not worth breaking bank for when theres plenty of quality free players←mabe, but he is a first ball header winner and not meant to look special justhead that ball away and hit your opponent hard and stand there like a brick wall, at set pieces we miss that badly andunfortunately fortune can not do this that well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 when theres plenty of quality free players←Name some that come into the catagory of a young tough tackling good heading center back with leadership qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 HE'S ONLY 5'11''. I THOUGHT WE WANTED A TOWERING CENTRE HALF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Size isn't everthing 5' 11" is small for a centre half, but he jumps very high and is a strong guy as well. Look at Matt Hill, he's only about 5' 7" and he jumped higher than a load of forwards, well he still does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy g Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Size isn't everthing 5' 11" is small for a centre half, but he jumps very high and is a strong guy as well. Look at Matt Hill, he's only about 5' 7" and he jumped higher than a load of forwards, well he still does.←Absolutely. Matt Hill was only four foot tall but could out-jump a lot of taller strikers. Steve Brooker isnt the tallest, but seems to win a lot of headers.And look at Yoda - judge him by his size do you ? Hmmm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Absolutely. Matt Hill was only four foot tall but could out-jump a lot of taller strikers. Steve Brooker isnt the tallest, but seems to win a lot of headers.And look at Yoda - judge him by his size do you ? Hmmm ?←same with Peacock, he aint the tallest, i think he's 5' 10". I think the Sheff Wednesday web site says he's 6' 2" which is crap as he's the same as me. When he wernt in Edwards, he could put himself about. Same for Tommy Doherty, Joe Burnell. It's just that these players are not "commanding" which is what we need at the back. Nelson is a good suggestion but i cant see him coming to us, it aint as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Based on what I've seen tonight, I think we should break the bank to get him. He's exactly what we're looking for. Big, strong, not afraid to get stuck in.Obviously if Hartelpool go up, then we've no chance, but if at all possible, we should definately go for him.←What part of "we haven't got any money and we won't pay a fee for any player" don't you understand?The only way we'll pay fees is if LL leaves for £1m plus.Nelson's under contract for another year, Hartlepool(Ye Gods)may well be in a higher Division next year, but they'll still have to sell him IF he's not prepared to sign another contract next year, because, if they don't, he'll be 24 and can walk on a Bosman......same as us with Coles & Doherty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesco Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Nelson is class but would cost in the region of 200k and we have to ask ourselves is Nelson a 200k better player than Heywood. I know we all want the best players but I think in Nelson's case he will be setting his sights a little higher and aiming to join a Championship club that is ofcourse if Hartlepool don't make it up through the play-offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 HE'S ONLY 5'11''. I THOUGHT WE WANTED A TOWERING CENTRE HALF?←not always about size, look at fortune 6ft odd and still out foxedby the 5ft nothing strikers, it is also about reading the game andgetting your head in first as we have given a way too many free headerswhere there has been no defender challenging the striker for the ball.also crosses that are whipped in we are seeing phillips come out andpunch the ball where he really does not need to as it should be bread and butter to any decent center half, we need a experienced center halfto organise the back four.no matter who it is we do need someone at center half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Exile Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Now do not laugh when I say this, but I would love to see us sign somebody like Ben Chorley, currently with the MK Dons.He has been very much their unsung hero over the last couple of months. I have watched him half a dozen times and he is totally committed, and is a very active captain. You hear him ordering about and geeing up his players all the time. Chorley more than Wilson has got their back line organised with worse players than us. A typical game was Luton (were, yes he got an own gaol!!), but the Dons were outplayed and lost 1-0. We were outplayed and lost 5-0. Other than us, I cannot remember the last time they conceeded more than one. Now, make no mistake, he is a div 1 player, and is never going to make it big time. He reminds me a lot of Taylor. He is the sort of player we could afford (he is out of contract) and, if not him, is at least the type of player we need with some experience at the back. Nothing flash, just somebody you can rely on to ensure the back line is committed, plays as a unit, and conceeds no more than one goal, nine times out of ten.And then our front line will get all the glory for taking us up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 I'm glad someone brought him up, he is a really good player and was at championship level too. He ain't small either and he can play in midfield. GOOD SUGGESTION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpaul Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Name some that come into the catagory of a young tough tackling good heading center back with leadership qualities.←Watford Captain Shaun Dyche, I believe, has been given a free transfer. And after a succesful stint here previously, may fancy coming back to play for one of his old team mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorsetred Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 i reckon ian evatt is a better option and in my opinion a better player. surely we would have more chance of getting him to sign for us that nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 "And after a succesful stint here previously,"Christ, I remember thinking at the time, if I did'nt know any different, I'd swear he's being that rubbish on purpose!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 i reckon ian evatt is a better option and in my opinion a better player. surely we would have more chance of getting him to sign for us that nelson←God, this is getting repetitive.Evatt is under contract to Chesterfield until 2007, Nelson is under contract to Hartlepool until 2006, according to our chairman we have NO money available for transfer fees, and so won't be spending any money this summer, these players would cost transfer fees, so aren't coming to us.Heywood is OUT OF CONTRACT so is available for free, so is a very likely signing.Everyone understand now?Cue post in the next day or so "why don't we move in for Nelson, Evatt" etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorsetred Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 someones a bit up tight, everyone is entitled to have there say........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich-TWSC- Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Sipowicz has a good point though.Why mention Nelson when he's contracted and you're getting Matthew Heywood (it would appear)? It's silly 'he-played-well-on-Skysports----I-saw-it-so-lets-sign-him-up' talk!Evatt... Nope. And don't get me started when people suggest old timers after their release from contract (Sherwood).Be realistic... Or wait till you sell Lita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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