BS5_RED Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,23...1749565,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirling Ted Smith Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Alternatively, have they freed George Davis yet? Does anyone my age plus remember the Test in the 70s when we were in a decent position going into the last day only for the 'Free George Davis supporters' to dig the pitch up over night so that the Test had to be called off ? I think it was at Old Trafford when Lillee and Tommo were tearing us to shreds.If not, perhaps the 'Tinman out brigade' could bring their cause to the nation's attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 I would love it if it rained for the full 5days. Even if it doesn't, i am confident that we will be ok, and Tres may get a century, as he has been in good form, and loves the Oval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/14days...?zipcode=SurreyHeavy rain Thurs, Fri & Saturday!*gets out raindance kit* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel of Oz Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Just wondering what everyone thinks of the Jones injury? He's really stepped up to the mark this series, about which i am thrilled, but seems very possible that he will be out for the Oval . . . Many people are touting that Paul Colingwood will come in to the side, but I recon this is a very negative step. We don't just want to pack the team with batting and sit back on a draw, it's just asking for trouble and Collingwood's bowling just isn't test standard. If I hadn't watched some county cricket recently, I'd probs be asking Tremmers to be warming up, but he seems right of form, and i think he is carrying a niggle. It could come off having him in the side as he is a potentially matchwinning bowler yet the Aussie batsmen could tear him apart, leaving deeper scars on a bloke who deffinately has a future. I therefore think it should be "Stand up Lewey your time has (finally) come". The bloke is not a world beater but I think his dogged consistancy and experience (although extrmely limited internationally) is what we need. We've seen what a bit of consistancy caqn do with Flintoff and McGrath this series. Lewis is also preferable to Tremlett in the fact that he can make the ball move, which is a necessity on the Oval pitch as it won't do you any favours at all!Obviously, I'd rather Jones was fit . . . .Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Just wondering what everyone thinks of the Jones injury? He's really stepped up to the mark this series, about which i am thrilled, but seems very possible that he will be out for the Oval . . . Many people are touting that Paul Colingwood will come in to the side, but I recon this is a very negative step. We don't just want to pack the team with batting and sit back on a draw, it's just asking for trouble and Collingwood's bowling just isn't test standard. If I hadn't watched some county cricket recently, I'd probs be asking Tremmers to be warming up, but he seems right of form, and i think he is carrying a niggle. It could come off having him in the side as he is a potentially matchwinning bowler yet the Aussie batsmen could tear him apart, leaving deeper scars on a bloke who deffinately has a future. I therefore think it should be "Stand up Lewey your time has (finally) come". The bloke is not a world beater but I think his dogged consistancy and experience (although extrmely limited internationally) is what we need. We've seen what a bit of consistancy caqn do with Flintoff and McGrath this series. Lewis is also preferable to Tremlett in the fact that he can make the ball move, which is a necessity on the Oval pitch as it won't do you any favours at all!Obviously, I'd rather Jones was fit . . . .Sam ←Rumour ive heard is that Mr Caddick may be getting a recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel of Oz Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Rumour ive heard is that Mr Caddick may be getting a recall.←yeah i read that on TMS foum, but there is no chance. 1, he's the past, this england team is about the future as was shown with Pietersen over thorpe and 2, he's not really performing at the moment so why even consider him! His record against the Aussies is schocking anyway.Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Read the article on the BEEB site that says Jones is spending 2 hours a day in an oxegen chamber to try and advance the heeling.If you ask me its a risky game to chance him. You only have to look at GMG in the third test where he was no where near fit.It'll be a tough call and personally I think Collingwood may get the shout for a tad more experience... Now bring on that rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annanimo Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hmm, Caddick. Great in his time. I'd be surprised if he was recalled. But for one game it probably wouldn't be an issue that he is old. It would be a temporary retrograde step, but England have done this before - e.g. Brearley in 1981.There has to be more talent out there. I wouldn't want to replace our quality swinger with an off spinner like Collingwood. Maybe Chris Tremlett can make the step up, and show us what he's capable of. As for the rain. Well, of course I would welcome it. But it would be a most unsatisfactory way to decide the outcome of a fantastic series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 As for the rain. Well, of course I would welcome it. But it would be a most unsatisfactory way to decide the outcome of a fantastic series.←I think the Aussies winning the last test and thus retaining the ashes would also be unsatisfactory for me. They don't deserve to scrape home after being outplayed for the last 3 tests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StapleHillPhil Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 His record against the Aussies is schocking anyway.Sam ←In his last Test vs Australia in 2003 he took ten wickets, and over his Ashes career he managed to dismiss Steve Waugh ten times.Obviously a shocking record vs Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel of Oz Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 There has to be more talent out there. I wouldn't want to replace our quality swinger with an off spinner like Collingwood. Maybe Chris Tremlett can make the step up, and show us what he's capable of. ←Hmmm . . . well Collingwood isn't an off spinner, he bowls medium pace, but on a slightly different note, England will need a 2nd spinner for the Pakistani tour. Batty, Dawson et al have shown that they aren't test quality. Graham Swan is on form for Northants and he's a more than useful batsman too. But we still really need to breed some more spinners, we are lagging behind virtually every one of the better test playing nations.Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel of Oz Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 In his last Test vs Australia in 2003 he took ten wickets, and over his Ashes career he managed to dismiss Steve Waugh ten times.Obviously a shocking record vs Australia!←Well you make a good point, but 1. he is way past his best in my opinion (as a somerset fan you're probs better informed than me on his recent form) as his county avge is about 30 this year and he is in the lower teir in each league and 2. apart from this match, doesn't he average about 40 vs the Aussies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazareth Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 I would have thought James Anderson was the natural replacement for Jones. He's got test experience and whilst he's not in the best form, I'm not sure I would gamble by giving Tremlett his debut in such an important game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhyde Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Oh dear god Anderson in South Africa was a broken man. If he's recovered to that form he showed in about 1 series so long ago i can't actually remember when then maybe.Lengthen the batting we're playing for a draw people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel of Oz Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Lengthen the batting we're playing for a draw people.←Don't you think that's just asking for trouble though? Seen as we're on a football website I'l use a football analergy (sp?) remember the WC (World cup, not Water Closet . . .) last sumer vs France? We scored early on and sat back on the lead with a deep defensive line, it was invevitable France were going to equalise sometime and then they did and not only that, went on to score a winner. I think we have to aim to win the test and that means taking 20 Aussie wickets. For that, I don't think we can sacrifie a bowler for as Blowers would say "a bit's and pieces cricketer"Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhyde Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 No i'm not talking about a Anthony (anyone mentions Rougier and i'll kill them) McGrath or someone like that i mean a specialist batsman.I'm still not happy with our batting. Vaughn looks frightened every time he bats and Bell doesn't do it consistantly. Pieterson plays the odd dodgy shot then Flintoff and Jones have an average of just over thirty. The tail are so poor.If we had lost the toss last match i think we would have lost. If Ponting had put Aus into bat we would have lost "the greatest test ever" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london red Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Oh dear god Anderson in South Africa was a broken man. If he's recovered to that form he showed in about 1 series so long ago i can't actually remember when then maybe.Lengthen the batting we're playing for a draw people.←Harmison in South Africa was a broken man! He has had a very good series this time round, and the same could happen to Anderson. Underneath it all, he is still a very good bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad_shrek Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I'm surprised no one has mentioned gough, he has retired from international cricket, but he did say he would help england out if needed!anyway I'm going to be bold and say...Drop Geraint Jones and bring back Jack Russel!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazareth Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I'm still not happy with our batting. Vaughn looks frightened every time he bats and Bell doesn't do it consistantly. Pieterson plays the odd dodgy shot then Flintoff and Jones have an average of just over thirty. The tail are so poor.We've scored 400 plus in the first innings in the last 3 matches. End of argument.If we had lost the toss last match i think we would have lost. If Ponting had put Aus into bat we would have lost "the greatest test ever"←If my auntie had ******** she'd be my uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi...l/scorecard.stmP D Collingwood not out 109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StapleHillPhil Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Well you make a good point, but 1. he is way past his best in my opinion (as a somerset fan you're probs better informed than me on his recent form) as his county avge is about 30 this year and he is in the lower teir in each league and 2. apart from this match, doesn't he average about 40 vs the Aussies?←I wasn't advocating a return for Caddy, but just thought your initial statement was a bit harsh on the big man. When he is in the mood he is still a top bowler (see the T20 final as an example) and if England want to go for pace (albeit slowing) then he'd have to be one of the names to consider. His overall average is 40 but I'm guessing that if you took the figure from when him and Gough were opening the bowling then it would be much more respectful.Personally I'd go with Collingwood to add a bit of length to the batting just incase. Assuming Harmison and Flintoff remain fit then his bowling is good enough to hold up an end and give them sufficient rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazareth Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/14days...?zipcode=SurreyHeavy rain Thurs, Fri & Saturday!*gets out raindance kit*←It's pretty much impossible to predict the weather from this far out - check out that link now. Apparently it's going to be sunny on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhyde Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 We've scored 400 plus in the first innings in the last 3 matches. End of argument.If my auntie had ******** she'd be my uncle.←155 and 180 at lords182 second innings in Edgbastonflat track on Old Trafford but we did cope with an Awful aus attack there well.129-7 in the last innings in Trent Bridge. reopens arguement with original points still validgood second point...We don't win when McGrath plays. In the one game McGrath was fit we were thrashed. He'll play with Tait and Lee and Warne and we'll lose if the toss goes against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel of Oz Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Jones is deffinately out:Injured Jones to miss final Test And the weather's improving:Weather Report Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel of Oz Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Big news . . . . . . . . . . . . . IT'S DRY! Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 We seem to be doing ok now, Freddy and Strauss have started to play well. Currently 213-4 at tea, Strauss 92* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 I got a text from my mate in St Albans, saying that it's raining there and is moving towards London. Where in London is the Oval??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Its south londan around the kennington area - a long way from St Albans i'm afriad - still here's hoping cause we wcould really do with some cloud and rain right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 well, it aint rain, but bad light will do for now.WOOHOO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.