Red Cloud Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 to the daily mail yesterday - picked out the air I reckon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Not another journeyman manager - and one who hasn't achieved anything much in his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Not another journeyman manager - and one who hasn't achieved anything much in his entire career.←If acheieving 7 promotions (the same number as Graham Taylor) is nothing then you are right. He just needs one more promotion to set a record. We could be the challenge he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 When was his last promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 When was his last promotion?←It seems that you would favour Terry Butcher becoming City manager yet he hasn't managed in England for TWELVE years!He was pretty dreadful at both Coventry and Sunderland and is only now slowly building a steady reputation as a manager in Scotland yet you would prefer him to somebody who has managed in the English Leagues for 30 years and who has gained SEVEN promotions? I'm just grateful that you won't be deciding who our next manager is.BTW, Bassett's last promotion was in 1998 with Forest (although he did reach the P/O Final with Barnsley in 2000)When was Butcher's last promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Lighten up Magilla - Butcher is just one potential candidate that I would welcome along with Gary Johnson.The fact is I don't have a particular favourite.My problem with managers like Basset and Lawrence is that they have been around almost too long and and imo are past their sell by date.They might be experienced but thier appointment wouldn't inspire the fans which given BCFC's current situation has to be a consideration.The new mans appointment has to have a "feel good" factor to it and I wouldn't see either Basset or Lawrence providing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Lighten up Magilla - Butcher is just one potential candidate that I would welcome along with Gary Johnson.The fact is I don't have a particular favourite.My problem with managers like Basset and Lawrence is that they have been around almost too long and and imo are past their sell by date.They might be experienced but thier appointment wouldn't inspire the fans which given BCFC's current situation has to be a consideration.The new mans appointment has to have a "feel good" factor to it and I wouldn't see either Basset or Lawrence providing that.←For a so-called sage, your not very---------sagey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 The new mans appointment has to have a "feel good" factor to it and I wouldn't see either Basset or Lawrence providing that.←I share your concerns Robbored - especially with regards to Lawrence. As the first objective for the new manager has to be to avoid relegation the appointment needs to excite and motivate players and fans - not demotivate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Lighten up Magilla - Butcher is just one potential candidate that I would welcome along with Gary Johnson.The fact is I don't have a particular favourite.My problem with managers like Basset and Lawrence is that they have been around almost too long and and imo are past their sell by date.They might be experienced but thier appointment wouldn't inspire the fans which given BCFC's current situation has to be a consideration.The new mans appointment has to have a "feel good" factor to it and I wouldn't see either Basset or Lawrence providing that.←The point I have tried to make all along about managers like Bassett and Taylor and Lawrence is that I feel that they should be used as an effective 'stop-gap' to steady the ship and to give the season a little bit of impetus.Bassett, who I prefer of the three mentioned above, should be given ONE season to get us back on track, sort the backroom mess out and search for his successor who could be brought in to work alongside him during this season. Taylor or Lawrence could do the same. I do not see any of them as being the long term managers.The long-term management candidates should be people like Eric Black - young managers with a good solid CV who will not start to yearn for the pundit's chair if things start to get a bit bumpy.Perhaps the way to start sorting out City's problems is to use an old head to calm things down and then, after a period of stabilisation, let the younger successor take over. Bassett/Lawrence/Taylor could be the short-term answer but not in the long-term and vice-versa with the younger managers. A combination of both may be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewsham Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 The point I have tried to make all along about managers like Bassett and Taylor and Lawrence is that I feel that they should be used as an effective 'stop-gap' to steady the ship and to give the season a little bit of impetus.Bassett, who I prefer of the three mentioned above, should be given ONE season to get us back on track, sort the backroom mess out and search for his successor who could be brought in to work alongside him during this season. Taylor or Lawrence could do the same. I do not see any of them as being the long term managers.The long-term management candidates should be people like Eric Black - young managers with a good solid CV who will not start to yearn for the pundit's chair if things start to get a bit bumpy.Perhaps the way to start sorting out City's problems is to use an old head to calm things down and then, after a period of stabilisation, let the younger successor take over. Bassett/Lawrence/Taylor could be the short-term answer but not in the long-term and vice-versa with the younger managers. A combination of both may be the answer.←I get the impression from the SL interview that the scenario illustrated in your last paragraph would be the boards preferred option. From the three candidates you mention above, the long ball game is heavily associated with two of 'em. That leaves Lennie Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest routabout Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 If Bassett were to join us, he'd be hounded out in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 If Lawrence is the best option, then we're doomed, Mr Mainwaring, we're dooooooooooooooooooooooomed God I hope not. Listening to what every Lu'on fan has been saying about him..........Think I'd rather have toys outta the pram Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Lighten up Magilla - Butcher is just one potential candidate that I would welcome along with Gary Johnson.The fact is I don't have a particular favourite.My problem with managers like Basset and Lawrence is that they have been around almost too long and and imo are past their sell by date.They might be experienced but thier appointment wouldn't inspire the fans which given BCFC's current situation has to be a consideration.The new mans appointment has to have a "feel good" factor to it and I wouldn't see either Basset or Lawrence providing that.←feel good factor is one thing but reputation is all important and a stated policy of the city board, quite rightly in my view. who knows when a certain manager reaches his sell by date anyway. Keith Curle is my front runner now but he does not fit the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Not another journeyman manager - and one who hasn't achieved anything much in his entire career. Shot yourself in the foot with that comment Robbored! As someone else posted, he has had 7 promotions in his career, and knows how to get us out of this division. As long as it isn't Lawrence i'm happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest routabout Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I'm just sick to the back teeth of this whole sorry affair. To be perfectly honest, with all the little niggles around the club, I'm getting sick of it altogether.I've supported this club for aws long as I can remember and I have never felt so despondent about things as I do now. Even in '82, I felt, oh well one way or another, it'll be over soon.But now, I feel we are going from one disaster to another and that all that lies ahead is further heartache and humiliation. This is not how a fan should be feeling about the club he loves. Somebody at the club needs to look into Public Relations and gaining a better understanding of the so called relationship, between the club and it's supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedSi Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I'm just sick to the back teeth of this whole sorry affair. To be perfectly honest, with all the little niggles around the club, I'm getting sick of it altogether.I've supported this club for aws long as I can remember and I have never felt so despondent about things as I do now. Even in '82, I felt, oh well one way or another, it'll be over soon.But now, I feel we are going from one disaster to another and that all that lies ahead is further heartache and humiliation. This is not how a fan should be feeling about the club he loves. Somebody at the club needs to look into Public Relations and gaining a better understanding of the so called relationship, between the club and it's supporters.←I work in A&E in a Bristol Hospital...Just started thinking how many City fans I'll be seeing if the club appoints Lawrence, Bassett or someone like them... Could be a long shift for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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