Portisheadred Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Sorry to be so naive but what exactly does everyone have against lawrence?If we wait long enough, ie 10 pm tonight, maybe we can get Moyes back. That would be a result.My off the wall favourite is Andy Llewellyn - look at what a great job he is doing at Clevedon United! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 My off the wall favourite is Andy Llewellyn ←That is off the wall!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portisheadred Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Well, I can't understand anything that is happening at present at AG so it seems a good a shout as any.Did anyone else have a feeling of going back to the 80's on Saturday? It felt reminiscent of watching City under Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest routabout Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I suggest that you have a look hereIf you can't be bothered to work it out, Lawrence has won 393 games and lost 428 games. He drew 310 games and it all adds up to a grand total of 1,131 games. You'd think he'd be half tidy with all that practice? But alas no.Come on. That is having a right merry chuckle and no mistake. No manager who has lost more games than he has won, deserves to get any manager's job that he applies for. If he convinces Stephen Lansdown that he's the man for the job, then Stephen Lansdown is not doing his job properly. Somebody who conducts interviews for a football manager's position, should have a basic grasp of mathematics, as well as the ability to assess a man's character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidersam Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Think question should be whats right with lawrence??? I cant think of anything he will bring to this cluband as for Andy Llewellyn don't make me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portisheadred Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Point taken, hadn't realised he was a bad as that. Thanks for the info.Lets hope Arsenal put 10 past Everton tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markman Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I suggest that you have a look hereIf you can't be bothered to work it out, Lawrence has won 393 games and lost 428 games.Come on. That is having a right merry chuckle and no mistake. No manager who has lost more games than he has won, deserves to get any manager's job that he applies for. If he convinces Stephen Lansdown that he's the man for the job, then Stephen Lansdown is not doing his job properly. Somebody who conducts interviews for a football manager's position, should have a basic grasp of mathematics, as well as the ability to assess a man's character.←An excellent post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Gows' Tash Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I suggest that you have a look hereIf you can't be bothered to work it out, Lawrence has won 393 games and lost 428 games.Come on. That is having a right merry chuckle and no mistake. No manager who has lost more games than he has won, deserves to get any manager's job that he applies for. If he convinces Stephen Lansdown that he's the man for the job, then Stephen Lansdown is not doing his job properly. Somebody who conducts interviews for a football manager's position, should have a basic grasp of mathematics, as well as the ability to assess a man's character.←If there's one thing SL is strong on it's numbers, he's an accountant by trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest routabout Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 An excellent post!←And now it's new and improved with added lard and stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I suggest that you have a look hereIf you can't be bothered to work it out, Lawrence has won 393 games and lost 428 games. He drew 310 games and it all adds up to a grand total of 1,131 games. You'd think he'd be half tidy with all that practice? But alas no.Come on. That is having a right merry chuckle and no mistake. No manager who has lost more games than he has won, deserves to get any manager's job that he applies for. If he convinces Stephen Lansdown that he's the man for the job, then Stephen Lansdown is not doing his job properly. Somebody who conducts interviews for a football manager's position, should have a basic grasp of mathematics, as well as the ability to assess a man's character.←Great post, would luv SL to read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest routabout Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 If there's one thing SL is strong on it's numbers, he's an accountant by trade←Ah but the greatest skill of an accountant, is the manipulation of numbers, wouldn't you say? In life there are two trades that you have to put your trust into, but you know that you are a fool for trusting them.One is solicitors.The other, accountants. I know, I worked as IT manager for a firm of accountants and tax specialists. Helped them to develop the replacement to profit related pay (PRP) when the IR scrapped PRP. Once the scheme was finalised and approved, they sold the rights to it and made us all redundant. THAT's accountants for you![Edit]I'm no accounting expert, but I can translate the accountant's waffle into spreadsheet formulae and macros, which is how I 'helped' to develop the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Ah but the greatest skill of an accountant, is the manipulation of numbers, wouldn't you say? In life there are two trades that you have to put your trust into, but you know that you are a fool for trusting them.One is solicitors.The other, accountants. I know, I worked as IT manager for a firm of accountants and tax specialists. Helped them to develop the replacement to profit related pay (PRP) when the IR scrapped PRP. Once the scheme was finalised and approved, they sold the rights to it and made us all redundant. THAT's accountants for you![Edit]I'm no accounting expert, but I can translate the accountant's waffle into spreadsheet formulae and macros, which is how I 'helped' to develop the scheme.← Blimey, well whatever you do now, pack it in!. With posts like yours you should be our new forum chairman, a man who can speak for the voice of the fans,a man to tackle our board with unanswered questions, to BOLDY GO WHERE NO FAN HAS GONE BEFORE!!!! Thought ued like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest routabout Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Blimey, well whatever you do now, pack it in!. With posts like yours you should be our new forum chairman, a man who can speak for the voice of the fans,a man to tackle our board with unanswered questions, to BOLDY GO WHERE NO FAN HAS GONE BEFORE!!!! Thought ued like that ←Thanks for the compliment, but you might be leaving yourself open for abuse by so obviously supporting me. Because apparently, according to certain users, I am thick and contribute nothing to little to this forum. They know so little about me, it's laughable.I have a few more irons in the fire too, but I won't mention them on here, as that's compromising my privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeovilred Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Sorry to be so naive but what exactly does everyone have against lawrence?If we wait long enough, ie 10 pm tonight, maybe we can get Moyes back. That would be a result.My off the wall favourite is Andy Llewellyn - look at what a great job he is doing at Clevedon United!←Perhaps a Cardiff fan would like to tell us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
december 1963 Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I work in Cardiff and sit next to loads of Cardiff supporters. The general view is one of unending boring football under Lawrence. They have little good to say about him despite the promtion from our Division. However, whilst I liked routabout's post, if statistics are all we go by then we chose Danny Wilson whilst he had lost more games than he'd won. He only changed round his career whilst managing City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C.T.I.D Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I suggest that you have a look hereIf you can't be bothered to work it out, Lawrence has won 393 games and lost 428 games. He drew 310 games and it all adds up to a grand total of 1,131 games. You'd think he'd be half tidy with all that practice? But alas no.Come on. That is having a right merry chuckle and no mistake. No manager who has lost more games than he has won, deserves to get any manager's job that he applies for. If he convinces Stephen Lansdown that he's the man for the job, then Stephen Lansdown is not doing his job properly. Somebody who conducts interviews for a football manager's position, should have a basic grasp of mathematics, as well as the ability to assess a man's character.←that works out to 3393 points total @ 3 per game(some will be cup games admittedly)won 393 games..................1179 pointsdrawn 310............................310 pointslost 428...................................0total of...............................1489 from a possible 3393.1489 points from 1,131 gamesnowhere near the 2 points per game average needed to be in with a shout of promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest routabout Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I work in Cardiff and sit next to loads of Cardiff supporters. The general view is one of unending boring football under Lawrence. They have little good to say about him despite the promtion from our Division. However, whilst I liked routabout's post, if statistics are all we go by then we chose Danny Wilson whilst he had lost more games than he'd won. He only changed round his career whilst managing City.←Yes, but look at Danny now and he didn't get us promoted, in four years.I think Wilson was a tad unlucky at Barnsley, but at Wednesday, his downfall (alledgedly) was that he had no idea how to manage his star players. Admittedly one of those thorns in his side was one Paolo Di Canio and we all know what a prima dona arse he is/was, but the fact remains that he failed in one of the key aspects of management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fatherdougal Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 You're having a laugh aren't you December 1963? The Cardiff support have little good to say about Lawrence except for the fact he got them promoted! I always thought managing a professional football squad was a thankless task, but now you've confirmed it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Sorry to be so naive but what exactly does everyone have against lawrence?←Check his career. He's a PE teacher who got lucky. I'll be supportive of anyone that gets it but, no sorry not Lennie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotusman Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Fortunately S.L. will not be too bothered by my comments or that of fellow posters,I've held a healthy respect for Lennie Lawrence for the last 20 years or so.Alas, my viewpoint was'nt arrived at by the comments of a Cardiff fan but more by what he achieved over a wider time-span with Luton initially & then Charlton.At Luton first time around he achieved a good level of success, what drew particular praise at the time was their style of play and the way in which he nurtured young talented players.His spell with Charlton was really exceptional, at this time most observers considered him to be one of the very best managers in the entire league.In many ways he was the instrumental figure in creating the Charlton of today.The likes of Gritt , Peacock & Curbishley no doubt hold him to this day in high esteem.Charlton did'nt even play at their ancestral home but rather at pretentious neighbours Crystal Palace.Again with perhaps the most limited budget of any team in the Premiership equivalent,he managed to defy the odds and achieve degrees of success unseen of at our beloved club in over 40 years.He certainly made great use of limited resources and his teams were very organised,workmanlike,with a very positive team spirit.Make no mistake Charlton really had less in real resources than we did but managed to consistantly be a division higher than the City.I watched Charlton at that time quite regularly for I lived just south of Croydon, watching them in the top-flite really was a pleasing experience...so you see my viewpoint really does have some substance rather than so much of the rubbish that is volunteered by so many so cheaply.Quite what his capabilities are today is not for me to answer but I certainly know he has had a more succesful career over the last 20 years than Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednotblue Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 I suggest that you have a look hereIf you can't be bothered to work it out, Lawrence has won 393 games and lost 428 games. He drew 310 games and it all adds up to a grand total of 1,131 games. You'd think he'd be half tidy with all that practice? But alas no.Come on. That is having a right merry chuckle and no mistake. No manager who has lost more games than he has won, deserves to get any manager's job that he applies for. If he convinces Stephen Lansdown that he's the man for the job, then Stephen Lansdown is not doing his job properly. Somebody who conducts interviews for a football manager's position, should have a basic grasp of mathematics, as well as the ability to assess a man's character.←But he has achieved promotions and one fairly recently. Can you give us any names who have won more games than they have lost and we as Bristol City Football Club have a chance of getting?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednotblue Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 But he has achieved promotions and one fairly recently. Can you give us any names who have won more games than they have lost and we as Bristol City Football Club have a chance of getting??←Having just read another thread I retract my question and will go and sit in the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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