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Beezey

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So that's 3 replies in a row who think it's a bad idea. Why exactly?

There was no trouble against Boro, and there will be no trouble against Rovers. People have to already be on the database to get a ticket, so they will be genuinely City fans.

I don't think you can class Boro and the gas as like for like pal, Have you considered it may not be us that causes the problems to begin with ? Lets say for arguments sake that some Gas thugs are looking for it? Are they likely to be on a database ? Its a risk anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

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Steve Watts

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So that's 3 replies in a row who think it's a bad idea. Why exactly?

There was no trouble against Boro, and there will be no trouble against Rovers. People have to already be on the database to get a ticket, so they will be genuinely City fans.

You can't compare Rovers with Boro. There's no history between us and Boro...there certainly is between us and Rovers, so of course the opportunity for problems will arise. The only two points i'd make are these...:

1. Just because someone's in the database doesn't mean that they're not the sort of person that'll be well up for a ruck. We have over 40,000 people on the database and only an average attendance of 11500, so your arguement that they will be genuine City fans is pretty weak... I know not everyone can make it to the match, but you're talking about three quarters of that database never go!!!!

but on the flip side to that.

2. Most of those who wanted to cause trouble for that match will already have bought a ticket for the match in case they didn't open the East End and therefore won't be in there anyway.

I agree with the three negative comments though, i'm afraid.

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thatcham red

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It will be a policed match of course and segregated.

Keep in mind you actually have to go to the ground in person and identify yourself to get a ticket. I think that puts pay to any theories about the Gas buying them in any organised way.

Isn't it now up to City fans to demonstrate that this is possible and we've finally entered the 21st Century by accepting the segregation standards accepted by most other football club's supporters?

I know local derbies are different, however, this has clearly been done in a controlled way.

What we should be doing is debating how this will add to the atmosphere :clapping:

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There was no trouble against Boro, and there will be no trouble against Rovers. People have to already be on the database to get a ticket, so they will be genuinely City fans.

there is ALWAYS trouble in matches with Rovers, and this game will likely to be similar, whether or not there will be trouble time will tell, but hopefully their will be a large netural area.

as for people being on the database, considering you have to get a ticket in person, there is nothing to stop anyone from just turning up and paying cash and then on their way, even if they ask for a postcode you can just give them a random one, there is nothing to stop anyone from getting in, however this is no different from any other game.

opening the east end is always risky business, but if it can survive this match without trouble, it can survive anything, it's totally down to the people who actually go in their to behave themselves

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"There was no trouble against Boro, and there will be no trouble against Rovers............."

I will be delighted if i can come on here post match and say i was wrong, believe me.

However, i`ve spent all season in the Williams, Block E ( can`t give up smoking, but hey, i`m a red....) and there have been a few occasions, most notably against Millwall, where that section was packed( normally about a third full if that) with supporters who did spend the majority of the match more interested in the Wedlock stand than events on the pitch, and the Eastend was closed to City fans. Are the club saying that the visit of the Gas is going to be less volatile ? I`m sure they will `take whatever measures they feel appropriate.......`. That for me, as appeared on a previous post, is to give the gas more tickets. The atmosphere is not going to be problem, unless you`re trying to tell me that the only way to get City fans up for THE derby match is to ensure we have 1k in the Eastend, a ridiculous notion.

And lest we forget, so what IF we were to lose over the two legs. I for one wouldn`t be too bothered. We have bigger fish to fry....and why give the 30k stay away supporters another day out........yes i know the money would come in handy.....but not as handy as promotion !!!

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For those going to the EE, please please please do not cause any problems, if it goes off well maybe the EE will be re-opened. Remember its only a game of football.

This will depend on good stewarding, gas trying to wind us up knowing we want EE back. Or just a few of our idiots thinking they have to have a go. So to both sets of idiots if you need to have a go, the park is outside!

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Hmm...I wonder how many GAS will also buy these today

None :innocent06:

Could be a real problem area if not kept a careful eye on

Dolman & Williams have been flashpoints in recent years........oh and the Premier Club.Better shut the hole place down. :disapointed2se:

I don't think you can class Boro and the gas as like for like pal,

Boro have a much bigger reputation for trouble and a much bigger firm

Have you considered it may not be us that causes the problems to begin with?

No, because those people who will be in the EE are Rovers ST Holders separated by a steel fence, stewards and coppers from City....... :unsure: stragglers and familys, as per those who filled 2,500 seats v Boro.

Lets say for arguments sake that some Gas thugs are looking for it? Are they likely to be on a database?

All those in the ground, yes because they're ST Holders and the ones in our side will be a City's database

Its a risk anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

I don't know if you're going or how you're getting there, but you're far more likely to get a smack in the snoz on your way than once inside, irrespective of where you sit.Listening to you mate, I wouldn't go, just in case.Stay home and hope the house doesn't get struck by lightning.

You can't compare Rovers with Boro. There's no history between us and Boro

"Bring A Blade" Trip, about 15 years ago to Ayrsome Pk.Coaches stopped from travelling both ways by police.I was there.No history??

1. Just because someone's in the database doesn't mean that they're not the sort of person that'll be well up for a ruck.

No but it does make you far easier to identify coupled with CCTV that can clearly view, film and photograph, every seat in the house

We have over 40,000 people on the database and only an average attendance of 11500, so your arguement that they will be genuine City fans is pretty weak

No but it is quite unlikely they'll be Gasheads

... I know not everyone can make it to the match, but you're talking about three quarters of that database never go!!!!

On word:Millenium

but on the flip side to that.

2. Most of those who wanted to cause trouble for that match will already have bought a ticket for the match in case they didn't open the East End and therefore won't be in there anyway.

Quite right and the trouble doesn't kick off in the EE

I agree with the three negative comments though, i'm afraid.

If you're that worried, don't go

Why on earth don't we give the Gas 2000 extra tickets and make more money from this game?

Because City fans want them and why give them a ticket for everyone that attends a home game? That's like them giving us their entire ground

To give us a better support maybe, 5000 Gas in the east end would make a hell of a noise.

Correct and they only had 5,500 for their last home game

there is ALWAYS trouble in matches with Rovers, and this game will likely to be similar, whether or not there will be trouble time will tell, but hopefully their will be a large netural area.

It's called College Green because the trouble's always outside the ground :D

as for people being on the database, considering you have to get a ticket in person, there is nothing to stop anyone from just turning up and paying cash and then on their way, even if they ask for a postcode you can just give them a random one, there is nothing to stop anyone from getting in, however this is no different from any other game.

Sorry mate, you've lost me there.If you are not already on the City database you can't get a ticket

opening the east end is always risky business,

When was the last time there was a fight in there?

but if it can survive this match without trouble, it can survive anything, it's totally down to the people who actually go in their to behave themselves

As is true of The Dolman, Williams & Atyeo

However, i`ve spent all season in the Williams, Block E ( can`t give up smoking, but hey, i`m a red....) and there have been a few occasions, most notably against Millwall, where that section was packed( normally about a third full if that) with supporters who did spend the majority of the match more interested in the Wedlock stand than events on the pitch, and the Eastend was closed to City fans.

So regarding your point about the EE and trouble, your point is, what?

Had City fans been in the two far blocks of the EE as they will be for Rovers, they would have been further away than they were in the Williams against Millwall.]

Are the club saying that the visit of the Gas is going to be less volatile?

I bet the Gas don't get holed up in The Colliseum until 1.30 and then route marched to the Ground under Military Escort.

I`m sure they will `take whatever measures they feel appropriate.......`. That for me, as appeared on a previous post, is to give the gas more tickets.

Why not give them the whole ground-Save any bother and whose to say they'd sell them? 5,000 is their have home gate.

The atmosphere is not going to be problem, unless you`re trying to tell me that the only way to get City fans up for THE derby match is to ensure we have 1k in the Eastend, a ridiculous notion.

No, but it will add to the atmosphere and help.The key thing is to play well and win, then watch the place rock

And lest we forget, so what IF we were to lose over the two legs. I for one wouldn`t be too bothered.

I for one would be highly miffed.People talk daft about winning the JPT and gaining promotion as if it is a choice.One or the other.It's not.Winning breeds confidence and losing the JPT won't help us win the League

We have bigger fish to fry....and why give the 30k stay away supporters another day out.

Becuase they might come back again!

.......yes i know the money would come in handy

Answered your own question and 3,500 people, at least want the EE open.When it is knocked down and rebuilt, the club has agreed to use part of the stand as unallocated seating so they are beginning to realise how important it is both in financial and emotional terms to City fans.

.....but not as handy as promotion !!!

The two things are not mutually exclusive, indeed, the opposite may apply.

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Beezey

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QUOTE(Beezey @ Feb 8 2007, 12:56 PM)

I don't think you can class Boro and the gas as like for like pal,

Boro have a much bigger reputation for trouble and a much bigger firm

And no real previous with us or certainly not in recent years its not a like for like comparison and you know it

Have you considered it may not be us that causes the problems to begin with?

No, because those people who will be in the EE are Rovers ST Holders separated by a steel fence, stewards and coppers from City....... stragglers and familys, as per those who filled 2,500 seats v Boro.

Oh I'm sorry, stewards and "coppers" will have no problem stopping trouble. The point I'm making is all it takes is for ten or fifteen to start trouble and the next thing you know you have others joining in. Thats how trouble escalatesb]

Lets say for arguments sake that some Gas thugs are looking for it? Are they likely to be on a database?

All those in the ground, yes because they're ST Holders and the ones in our side will be a City's database

Rubbish, I know a few gas who are going who are not season ticket holders and they have got tickets through contacts within there club.

Its a risk anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

I don't know if you're going or how you're getting there, but you're far more likely to get a smack in the snoz on your way than once inside, irrespective of where you sit.Listening to you mate, I wouldn't go, just in case.Stay home and hope the house doesn't get struck by lightning.

You don't know me at all so comments like this are not really called for, How about you go back to abusing your own players before having taking your snide comments out on me? The point I'm making is that I think its a risk which could backfire on us. You don't have to agree but I fail to see the need for your comments at the bottom.

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Why is it EVERY time we get a big game there are people on here who say the away side fans will buy tickets in the home end and cause trouble ?. A few Coventry had a meal and a few drinks but were put in there place, Other than that can one of you please tell me when away fans have come to City sat in our stands and caused trouble ?

Stop scaremongering. Rovers "lads" havent had the bottle to turn up at Ashton Gate for 15 years....let alone get in the home stands.

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