westonred Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 If (or should i say when) we get promotion to the promised land of 'The Championship' which of the current 1st team squad do you think will be released in the summer ??Here's a few names for startersWoodmanMurrayRussell Smith Partridge :goingup: C.T.I.D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 MurrayRussellNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Not Murray, and did you know we've never lost a game that Russell has started in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 If (or should i say when) we get promotion to the promised land of 'The Championship' which of the current 1st team squad do you think will be released in the summer ??Here's a few names for startersWoodman YesMurray NoRussell NoSmith YesPartridge No :goingup: C.T.I.D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted April 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Not Murray, and did you know we've never lost a game that Russell has started in.I bump into Scotty quite often in Weston in the summer months and have had a couple nights drinking with him so i wouldn't want to see him go (and he's promised me his shirt at the end of the season don't forget that Scotty if your reading this) but GJ may want to clear the decks for new players.. As for Russell i think he's an awesome player but he will be another year older and could he cope with Championship football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Please can we get promoted before telling players they're no longer required.Thank you :fingerscrossed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapper Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 If (or should i say when) we get promotion to the promised land of 'The Championship' which of the current 1st team squad do you think will be released in the summer ??Here's a few names for startersWoodman YESMurray NORussell NOSmith YES Partridge YES :goingup: C.T.I.D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS10 RED Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 As for Russell i think he's an awesome player but he will be another year older and could he cope with Championship footballI would agree with that and i'm not sure why he inst picked more often, his passing is pretty good and he inst scared of a tackle also has a tidy shot on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Can any stato tell us which players contracts are up this summer?We might then be better equiped to speculate about which players might not be AG next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Can any stato tell us which players contracts are up this summer?We might then be better equiped to speculate about which players might not be AG next season.http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10327,00.htmlPlayer profiles. Click on each palyer. Should say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Orr - Distribution not good enough for next level upWoodman - Not good enoughMcCombe - Too SlowMurray - Too old, not good enough last time aroundBrooker - Too injury proneJevons - Not quick enough to trouble better defensesBetsy - Not good enough for the league below us!Russel - Too oldSmith - See BetsyPartridge - Not in plansWilson - Not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Orr - Distribution not good enough for next level upWoodman - Not good enoughMcCombe - Too SlowMurray - Too old, not good enough last time aroundBrooker - Too injury proneJevons - Not quick enough to trouble better defensesBetsy - Not good enough for the league below us!Russel - Too oldSmith - See BetsyPartridge - Not in plansWilson - Not good enoughShall we just get rid of the entire squad and start with a whole new set of 22-23 players then? Bit unfair with some(most) of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Shall we just get rid of the entire squad and start with a whole new set of 22-23 players then? Bit unfair with some(most) of them!I remember the last time we went up and in clouded grandeur started building from the front while opposition strikers attacked our cullinder like defence and we were relegated.No time for sentiment, if this squad reaches the promised land it will require a major overhaul to even stay thereAnd which ones exactly are unfair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_man_terry Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Murray and possibly Russell to stay, depending on what league we are in, both still have plenty of quality and good expereince, both also have a spot on attitude as well.players to leave though, Woodman - hasn't really pushed on and established himself this seasonParto - not in long term plansSmith - like him alot, but unsure if he has the quality for league oneapart from them any fringe young players I think and that's about it, we have the basis of a very good squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I remember the last time we went up and in clouded grandeur started building from the front while opposition strikers attacked our cullinder like defence and we were relegated.No time for sentiment, if this squad reaches the promised land it will require a major overhaul to even stay thereAnd which ones exactly are unfair?Orr: Distribution has improved alot and will keep improvingMcCombe: He doesnt need pace, he has kept alot of strikers quiet this season and can do it next seasonMurray: Wasnt that he wasnt good enough, the man who signed him left, then the next manager didnt like himBrooker: ! season out through injuries. Doesnt mean he is going to to the same next season.Jevons: Has good skill on him and a good shot. Wouldnt need pace alot of the time.Russell: Experience. Cal do well at that level.Partridge: Not in plans because for this season weve got a settled defence. Would excel in the championship if given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger22 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I remember the last time we went up and in clouded grandeur started building from the front while opposition strikers attacked our cullinder like defence and we were relegated.No time for sentiment, if this squad reaches the promised land it will require a major overhaul to even stay thereAnd which ones exactly are unfair?Bad arguement IMO, yes we did spent almost millions on our front 2 last time, but we have got a much better defence this time around.You only need to look at Colchester and reading to see that you don't need to rip a club apart to make it in the Championship, maybe just maybe that league would better suit our squad? Plus we have got a good team spirit at the moment, adding 5/7 new players may ruin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Orr - Distribution not good enough for next level upWoodman - Not good enoughMcCombe - Too SlowMurray - Too old, not good enough last time aroundBrooker - Too injury proneJevons - Not quick enough to trouble better defensesBetsy - Not good enough for the league below us!Russel - Too oldSmith - See BetsyPartridge - Not in plansWilson - Not good enoughI agree with Orr, Woody, Murray, Smith & Partridge. Brooker was player of the year last season, obviously he has been unfortunate with the way this season hasgone but I do think he is worth keeping. Jamie McCombe, along with Louis, has been our most consistant player andWilson and Betsy have to be given some games to bed-in to the team. Russell has never let the team down. Jevo's lack of form and confidence is a mystery and I'm not sure whether he would be able to hack it in theChampionship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicko Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Orr - Distribution not good enough for next level upWoodman - Not good enoughMcCombe - Too SlowMurray - Too old, not good enough last time aroundBrooker - Too injury proneJevons - Not quick enough to trouble better defensesBetsy - Not good enough for the league below us!Russel - Too oldSmith - See BetsyPartridge - Not in plansWilson - Not good enoughMURRAY...... not good enought last time round???? I believe the whole squad at that time wasn't good enough, you can't single out players as being the whole teams demise. He done fine at reading in the championship and easily slotted in. Murray's one you best most dangerous players when he's on his game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 MURRAY...... not good enought last time round???? I believe the whole squad at that time wasn't good enough, you can't single out players as being the whole teams demise. He done fine at reading in the championship and easily slotted in. Murray's one you best most dangerous players when he's on his game..I think he meant he didnt think Murray wasnt good enough when he was at Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barneyredballs Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 MURRAY...... not good enought last time round???? I believe the whole squad at that time wasn't good enough, you can't single out players as being the whole teams demise. He done fine at reading in the championship and easily slotted in. Murray's one you best most dangerous players when he's on his game..I'm sorry, but I have to question the concerns about Orr. I agree his distribution can be questionned, but I think if you keep a good eye on him, his distribution is actually fairly good; especially on the deck. He often plays intelligent balls to feet; but his crossing is poor. In terms of defence, he is big, strong, fairly quick and totally committed. Remember Matty Hill, his distribution at times was dire. Often found the stands, rather than red shirts.Solid championship player (one of the few who have left City in last 5 years to achieve the step up), I think Orr can do the same and honestly believe that if keeps improving at current rate; could well be hard to keep hold of in a year or two.Don't let him take penalties though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Orr: Distribution has improved alot and will keep improvingMcCombe: He doesnt need pace, he has kept alot of strikers quiet this season and can do it next seasonMurray: Wasnt that he wasnt good enough, the man who signed him left, then the next manager didnt like himBrooker: ! season out through injuries. Doesnt mean he is going to to the same next season.Jevons: Has good skill on him and a good shot. Wouldnt need pace alot of the time.Russell: Experience. Cal do well at that level.Partridge: Not in plans because for this season weve got a settled defence. Would excel in the championship if given the chance.So based on your argument a team in the championship requires little to no pace and doesn't matter if you can pass the ball!!Believe me the quality of striker in the championship is well above what we are used to, if you have no pace you have no championship future, you cannot expect championship midfielders/defences to just lump the ball forward onto a center halves head as they do in this division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 So based on your argument a team in the championship requires little to no pace and doesn't matter if you can pass the ball!!Believe me the quality of striker in the championship is well above what we are used to, if you have no pace you have no championship future, you cannot expect championship midfielders/defences to just lump the ball forward onto a center halves head as they do in this division!Darren Moore of Derby? Not seen him play? And we have pace in the team, Murray still has pace, Betsy has pace when he uses it, JMW has pace in abundance, Johnson has pace (for a midfielder). McCallister isnt the Slowest, neither is Brooker. We definatly have a squad capable enough, with the addition of 2 or 3 players, to finish mid-table-ish IMO in the championship next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Ben Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I think that it's a useful idea to look at how other clubs have got on when promoted... As Badger mentioned, Colchester are probably the team we should be looking to emulate if we're lucky enough to go up this season. Another good example is Bristol rugby. I think that a lot of our success this season has been based on the team spirit - exemplified by our scoring of late winners etc - and to rip that up would be to undo a lot of the good work that's got us where we are. Bristol haven't signed any big names since their promotion to the Guinness Premiership, but they really are a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. Colchester are the same, and I think that it's what we should strive for as well. Losing players such as Orr and Aggy without giving the squad as a whole a chance in The Championship - much as I agree with some of the comments about pace, distribution etc - would not be a great idea imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
next_year_I_hope Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 funny thing i heard was woodman went to see GJ about going out on loan around new year and was told by GJ not to go anywhere because he was in his plans soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 funny thing i heard was woodman went to see GJ about going out on loan around new year and was told by GJ not to go anywhere because he was in his plans soon.Possibly because at that time there was injuries and suspensions looming? I don't think GJ would have left it this long. Its a shame we cant produce a decent natural left back like southampton have with Gareth Bale. Nothing against Woody but hes not exactly the best is he. His heart is definatly in for the cause and so is the passion and enthusiasm, but, unfortnately, he just hasnt got enough ability for a top-of-the-table league 1 club, let alone championship club I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Puffin Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Possibly because at that time there was injuries and suspensions looming? I don't think GJ would have left it this long. Its a shame we cant produce a decent natural left back like southampton have with Gareth Bale. Nothing against Woody but hes not exactly the best is he. His heart is definatly in for the cause and so is the passion and enthusiasm, but, unfortnately, he just hasnt got enough ability for a top-of-the-table league 1 club, let alone championship club I'm afraid.Isn't Martin Slocombe a left back? he signed professional forms on Saturday and I thought that's what they said about him. Additionally I would keep Russell for the experience he can pass on to Cole Skuse alone, I see him as a very useful squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Darren Moore of Derby? Not seen him play? And we have pace in the team, Murray still has pace, Betsy has pace when he uses it, JMW has pace in abundance, Johnson has pace (for a midfielder). McCallister isnt the Slowest, neither is Brooker. We definatly have a squad capable enough, with the addition of 2 or 3 players, to finish mid-table-ish IMO in the championship next season.Do you honestly think Betsy is good enough? From what I have seen he is not even good enough for this level!! Darren Moor is a damn site faster than McCombe.Brooker I believe is neither quick enough or skillfull enough. The others apart from Murray I agree with you, I think for a comfortable mid table championship finish we should be looking at bringing in at least 4 maybe 5 players BETTER THAN WE ALREADY HAVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 From those under contract, I would say that Woodman and Partridge are on their way.Russell for me was going, however he really did impress me on Saturday. Murray has that extra spark we need and could be a great squad player and Smith has only just signed.Fringe players like Benyon may be on their way, however I would imagine players like JMW, Smith, Artus etc to go out on loan should new players come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Ciderhead Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 McCombe - Too SlowYou think we should let go our player of the season who has been an absolute rock at the back and our most influential defender since Shaun Taylor?? Youve obviously spent too much time in France....We should release some of our squad players such as Smith, Woodman, Partridge, and maybe Russell...but the bulk of our team I think has earned the chance to prove themselves in the Championship. Another striker, an agressive Tommy Doc style midfielder and a left winger should make us a decent enough side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 McCombe - Too SlowBrooker - Too injury proneCrazy stuff. McCombe could be our player of the season and we have one of the meaniest defences in the country!And as for Brooker - one season does not make a swan. I'm sure Newcastle will be selling Owen in the summer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Crazy stuff. McCombe could be our player of the season and we have one of the meaniest defences in the country!And as for Brooker - one season does not make a swan. I'm sure Newcastle will be selling Owen in the summer then.No room for sentiment I'm afraid, I agree that McCombe could be our player of the year however that does not mean he could do it again against, better, quiker, cuter attackers, just my opinion thoughBrooker's second touch is too often a sliding tackle, against better players I believe he will struggle, again just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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