Taz Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 After seeing the results with him in goal through pre-season, my first reaction was oh crap. Well I'm glad to say my gut feeling was completely wrong.He kept us in the game with 3 or 4 terriffic saves, and never looked out of place. His kicking was also top drawer.IF Basso is going to miss a game or 2, then on Hendersons second half performance, he'll be the man between the sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 After seeing the results with him in goal through pre-season, my first reaction was oh crap. Well I'm glad to say my gut feeling was completely wrong.He kept us in the game with 3 or 4 terriffic saves, and never looked out of place. His kicking was also top drawer.IF Basso is going to miss a game or 2, then on Hendersons second half performance, he'll be the man between the sticks.Indeed. One save in particular, when he tipped the ball on to the underside of the bar was quite simply world-class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Quite agree that he played a blinder and kept City in it with some excellant saves. That said 'flapper' was a good shot stopper but nothing else.I reckon I'd have to see more of Henderson before passing a more qualified judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Had a good debut, but where was he when QPR scored their second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS10 RED Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 IF Basso is going to miss a game or 2, then on Hendersons second half performance, he'll be the man between the sticks.Maybe morek, johnson said on radio Bristol after the game he had ligaments trouble in his chest so maybe longer.He said weale maybe called back tomorrow or Monday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Had a good debut, but where was he when QPR scored their second?More importantly where was Enoch when his man scored that goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouieDane Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 BRAVO Stephen Henderson!I have no idea how we only conceded 2 in that game, so he deserves to be commended on that account, and he also deserves recognition for the save he made where he dived out to block the ball. The attacker twisted past Macca, he turned past Fontain, I put my head in my hands and time stood still just for a second.... then he pounced out of his goal quicker than Ivan Sproule and blocked it, a really top notch save in my opinion, I can see him over-taking Weale as Bristol city's next first team keeperLet's hope that my enthusiasm can be kept up against Blackpool ey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins72 Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I remember when Basso started and he made mistakes I'm sure that Henderson will too. Alot of credit must go to Stuart Naylor look at how Basso has come on in nearly 2 years his kicking and punching is far better than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 The tip onto the bar was world class.Not sure he had a chance for their 2nd, just poor defending really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumbag Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 great shot stopper, but shocking on corners/crosses, all over the placeif Basso is out for the league game next weekend, we need Weale back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 More importantly where was Enoch when his man scored that goal?He was being pulled and dragged to the ground by the bloke who headed it back across goal! That shouldve been a foul in its own right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 He was being pulled and dragged to the ground by the bloke who headed it back across goal! That shouldve been a foul in its own right!He's 6ft 5 and 15 stone. He should have at least put a challenge in and preferably got his head to that ball. If he's going to let someone half his size pull him around inside our 6yard box we'd be better off with him on the half way line waiting for a break and keeping one extra opponent back.I thought Henderson did very well for such a young player. He had one dicey moment with a cross but he pulled off two great saves and kicked very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 He's 6ft 5 and 15 stone. He should have at least put a challenge in and preferably got his head to that ball. If he's going to let someone half his size pull him around inside our 6yard box we'd be better off with him on the half way line waiting for a break and keeping one extra opponent back.I thought Henderson did very well for such a young player. He had one dicey moment with a cross but he pulled off two great saves and kicked very well.How can he put a challenge in when someone who is roughly the same size as him is all over his shoulders stopping him from jumping?! don't know if that's ever happened to you in a game but i can tell you its just a tad hard to jump with someone all over your shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 How can he put a challenge in when someone who is roughly the same size as him is all over his shoulders stopping him from jumping?! don't know if that's ever happened to you in a game but i can tell you its just a tad hard to jump with someone all over your shoulders.How do you ever win a header then?Perhaps he should have simply not let anyone get all over his shoulders. Why wasn't he in the air before Nygaard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 How do you ever win a header then?Perhaps he should have simply not let anyone get all over his shoulders. Why wasn't he in the air before Nygaard?Because he was never given the chance to be cos Nygaard was all over the back of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 After seeing the results with him in goal through pre-season, my first reaction was oh crap. Well I'm glad to say my gut feeling was completely wrong.He kept us in the game with 3 or 4 terriffic saves, and never looked out of place. His kicking was also top drawer.IF Basso is going to miss a game or 2, then on Hendersons second half performance, he'll be the man between the sticks.completely agree! if basso doesent make it for brentford game, surely henderson has done enough to earn a second appearence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 He's 6ft 5 and 15 stone. He should have at least put a challenge in and preferably got his head to that ball. If he's going to let someone half his size pull him around inside our 6yard box we'd be better off with him on the half way line waiting for a break and keeping one extra opponent back.I thought Henderson did very well for such a young player. He had one dicey moment with a cross but he pulled off two great saves and kicked very well.Ummm I think Nygaard is actually taller than Enoch....Having said that, I didnt see him commit a foul, he was just slow reacting to Nygaards run.Back on topic, thought Henderson looked a bit dodgy at crosses however his shot stopping was good when needed. Think he will soon become a quality keeper and will most definately return to the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Ummm I think Nygaard is actually taller than Enoch....Having said that, I didnt see him commit a foul, he was just slow reacting to Nygaards run.Back on topic, thought Henderson looked a bit dodgy at crosses however his shot stopping was good when needed. Think he will soon become a quality keeper and will most definately return to the premiership.Henderson looked a bit dodgy on crosses and corners but it is still his league debut so he's going to improve. his shot stopping and kicking were excellent.About the 2nd goal, where were you sat and what sort of view did you have of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Because he was never given the chance to be cos Nygaard was all over the back of him.See the earlier post. If you're going to let people climb all over you you won't win a header. He's got enough strength to overcome that sort of grappling, he doesn't seem to use it much. Refs aren't going to find it easy to give fouls like that committed against a player who's a giant so he has to deal with it.Ummm I think Nygaard is actually taller than Enoch....Yeah I'd thought at first it was a different player. Nygaard is the same height and a bit lighter.The thing for me is that if you're going to be in your own box for a set piece you should know what to expect and at the very least put a challenge in. That header was unchallenged.In general I don't think Enoch should be defending set pieces, he should be ready to break which would keep an extra man back (not going to happen in the dying seconds though obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 See the earlier post. If you're going to let people climb all over you you won't win a header. He's got enough strength to overcome that sort of grappling, he doesn't seem to use it much. Refs aren't going to find it easy to give fouls like that committed against a player who's a giant so he has to deal with it.Yeah I'd thought at first it was a different player. Nygaard is the same height and a bit lighter.The thing for me is that if you're going to be in your own box for a set piece you should know what to expect and at the very least put a challenge in. That header was unchallenged.In general I don't think Enoch should be defending set pieces, he should be ready to break which would keep an extra man back (not going to happen in the dying seconds though obviously).Its not that he let him its just he couldnt do anything when Nygaard started. Granted he couldve been a bit stronger but the bloke was still all over Enoch's back and shoulders and using him for leverage. Which is a free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Its not that he let him its just he couldnt do anything when Nygaard started. Granted he couldve been a bit stronger but the bloke was still all over Enoch's back and shoulders and using him for leverage. Which is a free kick.You're telling me that someone Enoch's size and strength can't stop someone climbing on him and then can't put in a challenge because he has an arm on his back? Completely disagree.If he was in the air early enough he couldn't be climbed on could he?The ref is never going to give a foul in that situation with the ball in the net when the linesman doesn't flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 You're telling me that someone Enoch's size and strength can't stop someone climbing on him and then can't put in a challenge because he has an arm on his back? Completely disagree.If he was in the air early enough he couldn't be climbed on could he?The ref is never going to give a foul in that situation with the ball in the net when the linesman doesn't flag.What view did you have of it? Where were you looking at it from? The ref had a perfectly good view of it to see that it was a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 What view did you have of it? Where were you looking at it from? The ref had a perfectly good view of it to see that it was a foul.I saw it from the Dolman and twice since on the highlights.I agree the ref had a good view. He didn't give the foul. He wasn't ever going to in those circumstances.Someone climbing on you is a poor excuse for not challenging regardless of if you're being fouled or not for the reasons I've already given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I saw it from the Dolman and twice since on the highlights.I agree the ref had a good view. He didn't give the foul. He wasn't ever going to in those circumstances.Someone climbing on you is a poor excuse for not challenging regardless of if you're being fouled or not for the reasons I've already given.So you wouldve been looking through about 15 players as opposed to seeing it as the 2 players directly in front of where you were sat then? If you wouldve had the view of it that i did then you would be saying the same as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Henderson looked a bit dodgy on crosses and corners but it is still his league debut so he's going to improve. his shot stopping and kicking were excellent.About the 2nd goal, where were you sat and what sort of view did you have of it?Williams Block L, so basically in line with it and on the back post from the original cross. It may be that I just don't remmeber him being fouled as I didnt think to myself, "hang on thats a foul". Probably wrong though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 So you wouldve been looking through about 15 players as opposed to seeing it as the 2 players directly in front of where you were sat then? If you wouldve had the view of it that i did then you would be saying the same as me.No, I saw it fairly clearly the first time but from a distance. When I saw the highlights I am sure the view was somewhat better than yours given it was in slow motion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 No, I saw it fairly clearly the first time but from a distance. When I saw the highlights I am sure the view was somewhat better than yours given it was in slow motion...you were looking directly at the front of both players thought, only a side on view will show that it shouldve been a foul. My mate who was sat in the Dolman even said it was a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 you were looking directly at the front of both players thought, only a side on view will show that it shouldve been a foul. My mate who was sat in the Dolman even said it was a foul.Jesus H Christ.No, I wasn't looking front on. I was looking from D block Dolman so I had a view at an angle. It's entirely irrelevant anyway since I've seen the highlights.I didn't say it wasn't a foul. I said the ref wasn't going to give it and that being fouled is a poor excuse.And on the highlights it looked like a decision that could go either way and frequently does.There is simply no excuse for not challenging for a header inside your own six yard box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Jesus H Christ.No, I wasn't looking front on. I was looking from D block Dolman so I had a view at an angle. It's entirely irrelevant anyway since I've seen the highlights.I didn't say it wasn't a foul. I said the ref wasn't going to give it and that being fouled is a poor excuse.And on the highlights it looked like a decision that could go either way and frequently does.There is simply no excuse for not challenging for a header inside your own six yard box.This is going to go back and forth so i think its best that we agree to disagree and respect each other's opinion. Let's just look ahead to the Blackpool game on saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 There is simply no excuse for not challenging for a header inside your own six yard box.Exactly, any manager or coach would tell you if you cant win it, make it as difficult as possible for the opposition, i.e challenge for the ball, what happened with Enoch amounts to a free header for there player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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