Best Start For 16 Years !

[headhunter]

Whilst we have started well on a few seasons in recent years at LGE.1 Level how far back do we have to go at what is now CHAMPIONSHIP to find a start like this?

August 91 to be precise. The opening 4 games : 2 wins 2 draws

Southend [A] 1-1

Brighton [H] 2-1

Blackburn [H] 1-0

Port Vale [A] 1-1

We beat the Gas 1-0 in game 5 before a winless streak of 6 games saw us slip back to 18th. We finished in 17th with 54 points which, I guess, most of us would accept this campaign.

City kept an unchanged line up on those opening 4 games :

Welch > Llewelyn, Bryant, Aizlewood, Scott > May, Rennie, Shleton> Allison, Taylor, Smith

If you are old enough to remember then how do you rate that side against what we have at present?

I'd go for Aizlewood ahead of Fontaine, Shelton for Johnson and alongside Trundle I would have Taylor as the fox in the box we lack at present. Do you agree?

[RedRock]

Welch > Llewelyn, Bryant, Aizlewood, Scott > May, Rennie, Shleton> Allison, Taylor, Smith

If you are old enough to remember then how do you rate that side against what we have at present?

I'd go for Aizlewood ahead of Fontaine, Shelton for Johnson and alongside Trundle I would have Taylor as the fox in the box we lack at present. Do you agree?

Scotty (for McCalister/Orr), Shelton (for Johnson), Alison and Taylor (for Trundle and Sprole).

[wivs]

Headhunter, where do you get this information from? I am interested in stats like this and have a couple of the City books but this doesn't show this detail. It also says on the main site that we are in our highest position for 27 years, where do you get that detail from?

Any help you can give would be much appreciated.

[westonred]

Headhunter, where do you get this information from? I am interested in stats like this and have a couple of the City books but this doesn't show this detail. It also says on the main site that we are in our highest position for 27 years, where do you get that detail from?

Any help you can give would be much appreciated.

This is always a good site for City stats hope that helps....

http://www.citystats.org.uk/default.asp

[greenun]

Headhunter, where do you get this information from? I am interested in stats like this and have a couple of the City books but this doesn't show this detail. It also says on the main site that we are in our highest position for 27 years, where do you get that detail from?

Any help you can give would be much appreciated.

You can get this information from Soccerbase, but if you want a better view, trawl bookshops, ebay or amazon.com for: Bristol City The Modern Era - A Complete Record, by David Woods. It covers every season from 1967-68 through to December 1999 and contains teamsheets, goalscorers and times, plus a match summary, season review and match of the season.

[wivs]

Cheers for that Greenun and Westonred much appreciated.

[Northern Red]

Whilst we have started well on a few seasons in recent years at LGE.1 Level how far back do we have to go at what is now CHAMPIONSHIP to find a start like this?

August 91 to be precise. The opening 4 games : 2 wins 2 draws

Southend [A] 1-1

Brighton [H] 2-1

Blackburn [H] 1-0

Port Vale [A] 1-1

We beat the Gas 1-0 in game 5 before a winless streak of 6 games saw us slip back to 18th. We finished in 17th with 54 points which, I guess, most of us would accept this campaign.

City kept an unchanged line up on those opening 4 games :

Welch > Llewelyn, Bryant, Aizlewood, Scott > May, Rennie, Shleton> Allison, Taylor, Smith

If you are old enough to remember then how do you rate that side against what we have at present?

I'd go for Aizlewood ahead of Fontaine, Shelton for Johnson and alongside Trundle I would have Taylor as the fox in the box we lack at present. Do you agree?

That Blackburn game was the first I ever went to. Allison scored the winner. That season saw Lumsden sacked with us deep in trouble, and Denis Smith take over and see us to safety. It also saw Jacki, Cole & Rosenior arrive.

[Milton Red]

We went second in the table on 24th August 1991 after beating Blackburn Rovers 1 - 0 at Ashton Gate and this was our highest League position in this division prior to yesterday and going top was our highest League position since May 1980.

[Robbored]

Whilst we have started well on a few seasons in recent years at LGE.1 Level how far back do we have to go at what is now

Welch > Llewelyn, Bryant, Aizlewood, Scott > May, Rennie, Shleton> Allison, Taylor, Smith

Of that starting 11 only Bob Taylor and possibly Martin Scott would make it into todays team.

Basso and Weale are both far better goalkeepers than Welch.

Bryant and Aizlewood were both very average.Not a patch on Carey and Fontaine.

May, Rennie and Shelton could't compete with Wilson,Elliot and Johnson.

Dave 'Smudger' Smith was a flyer but very inconsistant.

Wayne Allison - big target man.Very one-dimesional.

[KnowleUtd City]

Of that starting 11 only Bob Taylor and possibly Martin Scott would make it into todays team.

Basso and Weale are both far better goalkeepers than Welch.

Bryant and Aizlewood were both very average.Not a patch on Carey and Fontaine.

May, Rennie and Shelton could't compete with Wilson,Elliot and Johnson.

Dave 'Smudger' Smith was a flyer but very inconsistant.

Wayne Allison - big target man.Very one-dimesional.

Agree with all of that except Matt Bryant, I would have played him in front of fontaine yesterday, different types of players I know, but I think we are missing Mccombe winning first headers and Bryant used to do that well.

You Reds!

[OC 1645]

Gary Johnson will be the greatest achieving Englishman since His Excellency Oliver Cromwell if he gets us promotion. Just think of the position we were in 2 years ago when Gary took over - on our way down to join the Gas in the bottom flight !!!!!!! I'm well up for liberation from BCFC playing non top flight football. Gary Johnson is the man to liberate us.

[Slave to the rhythm]

Of that starting 11 only Bob Taylor and possibly Martin Scott would make it into todays team.

Basso and Weale are both far better goalkeepers than Welch.

Bryant and Aizlewood were both very average.Not a patch on Carey and Fontaine.

May, Rennie and Shelton could't compete with Wilson,Elliot and Johnson.

Dave 'Smudger' Smith was a flyer but very inconsistant.

Wayne Allison - big target man.Very one-dimesional.

Sorry, disagree regarding Shelton. He was a great little player and would give us something more than we currently have.

[REDOXO]

Whilst we have started well on a few seasons in recent years at LGE.1 Level how far back do we have to go at what is now CHAMPIONSHIP to find a start like this?

August 91 to be precise. The opening 4 games : 2 wins 2 draws

Southend [A] 1-1

Brighton [H] 2-1

Blackburn [H] 1-0

Port Vale [A] 1-1

We beat the Gas 1-0 in game 5 before a winless streak of 6 games saw us slip back to 18th. We finished in 17th with 54 points which, I guess, most of us would accept this campaign.

City kept an unchanged line up on those opening 4 games :

Welch > Llewelyn, Bryant, Aizlewood, Scott > May, Rennie, Shleton> Allison, Taylor, Smith

If you are old enough to remember then how do you rate that side against what we have at present?

I'd go for Aizlewood ahead of Fontaine, Shelton for Johnson and alongside Trundle I would have Taylor as the fox in the box we lack at present. Do you agree?

Trundle/Taylor that would be a nice pair

Smith was as good (fast) as Murray/Sproule/McIndoe

Martin Scott is the best City full back (and we have had a few good ones) in my memory

Gary Shelton was class and would certainly complement our midfield squad options...

Otherwise I'd settle for our current squad

[Robbo1980]

This is always a good site for City stats hope that helps....

http://www.citystats.org.uk/default.asp

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[Bristol Boy]

Of that starting 11 only Bob Taylor and possibly Martin Scott would make it into todays team.

I'd have them both in my first XI

Basso and Weale are both far better goalkeepers than Welch.

Agreed

Bryant and Aizlewood were both very average.Not a patch on Carey and Fontaine.

I wouldn't say there's much difference although Carey is the best of the four at present

May, Rennie and Shelton could't compete with Wilson,Elliot and Johnson.

Whoa there-Way Off-We could really do with Shelton as an attacking midfielder and he'd compliment Elliott in the same way that he did Rennie.Rennie was a better header of the ball and long rannge passer than any of the current crop and May was creative and a goal scorer

Dave 'Smudger' Smith was a flyer but very inconsistant.

I'd swap him for McIndoe tomorrow on what I've seen

Wayne Allison - big target man.Very one-dimesional.

Agreed Taylor & Trundle for me-Not the quickest or the tallest but 55-65 goals a season.

[Tenyards]

I reckon "Super" Bob was better than any of the strikers we have now. Didn't he score over 30 one season even though he missed something like the last eight games? Can't imagine any of the current squad achieving that. I also think Smith was unique in City players in that he seemed to be able to cross the ball very accurately while still travelling at speed and didn't have to check back. I don't think he was as fast as Scott Murray, Sproule or Wilson but he was certainly more precise with the crosses. Of course it may be that the balls were different then and didn't bend all over the place like those used today!