Dingbat Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 What an earth is this index based on? It's obviously not tackling or distance covered during a game, otherwise Marvellous Marv would certainly be up there (certainly in the top 100 anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Because everyone else is taking it so seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 You know that aint true and no one is slating McAllister.It's just some people are stupid enough to believe these stats rather then their own eyes.So i'm stupid then am i? Open your eyes. I havent once said that he is the best defender in the league nor have i said he is our best player of the season so far. I just backed up what the stats said and that's that the STATS think he is the 2nd best player in the Championship this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastcityfan Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I see stupid people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seend Red Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Marvin Elliott isn't even in the top 100!!! Do me a favour.Enough said!Elliott been heads and shoulders above every other player this season for us and he's not even in the top 100!! Just proves that these kind of stats mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 So i'm stupid then am i? Open your eyes. I havent once said that he is the best defender in the league nor have i said he is our best player of the season so far. I just backed up what the stats said and that's that the STATS think he is the 2nd best player in the Championship this season!If you believe these stats then, yes, to me, you are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 If you believe these stats then, yes, to me, you are stupid.Right, now you show me the exact post in this thread where i have flat out said that them stats are accurate based on performances, then you may get your wish! Until then, don't judge people who you only know by a pen name and their opinions on an internet forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Right, now you show me the exact post in this thread where i have flat out said that them stats are accurate based on performances, then you may get your wish! Until then, don't judge people who you only know by a pen name and their opinions on an internet forum!I never said you did.Re read my post and you'll I said if Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 J McAllister Actim Index top defender8 PLAYERS IN TOP 100Also...Lee Trundle is currently in position 70 ahead of Basso (88) L. Johnson (89) and Carey (98)Only McAllister (2), McIndoe (20), Orr (46) and Fontaine (61) (from BCFC obviously) are ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seend Red Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 The toad is getting hot under the collar again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Totally agree!McAllister is 2nd, Carey is 98th????? What a joke!Perhaps Carey was deducted points for grabbing an opponent round the throat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Perhaps Carey was deducted points for grabbing an opponent round the throat?They were done before the game on saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Red Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Yeah, they are stats saying that he is the 2nd best player in the league this season.Were you at Coventry away? How did you think he played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Were you at Coventry away? How did you think he played?Yes i was. Are you referring to McCallister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Always the same on here.Trundle could get a brilliant hat-trick and people would still slate him.Especially if he scored one of the goals from a free kick by hitting it under the wall when it was still 0-0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlozza Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 This link gives some explanation of how the index is calculated http://www.pa-sport.com/en/actim/actim-index-faqs.htmlI am also surprised that Marvin Elliott does not get in the top 100. However you get points deducted for red/yellow cards and shots off target. He probably doesn't get many assists either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Interesting. The only negative actions it lists there are yellow/red cards and missed shots.Some of the biggest problems I felt McAllister had in the first few games was continually getting caught in possession and either giving the ball away or hoofing it, as well as getting turned onto his wrong foot easily by wingers and beaten - none of that looks to be penalised.Elliott has had more shots than pretty much anyone on our team so it's no surprise he's scored low.I honestly can't see the use in lumping all those stats together into one index score. I would think a coach would rather just see the raw data - how many clearances did the player make, how many passes did they complete etc. I guess that's what prozone is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 The toad is getting hot under the collar again Yep, again!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Red Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Yes i was. Are you referring to McCallister?Yeah, Mcalister, how do you think he played? There is no sting in the tail, i just want your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 J McAllister Actim Index top defender8 PLAYERS IN TOP 100I cant believe Basso is not top GK.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Yeah, Mcalister, how do you think he played? There is no sting in the tail, i just want your opinion.I thought he had an OK game. Ive seen him play better but he didnt do alot wrong. Wasnt the best player on the pitch but wasnt the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Red Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 I thought he had an OK game. Ive seen him play better but he didnt do alot wrong. Wasnt the best player on the pitch but wasnt the worst.Isnt it funny how people see the game so differently.I thought he was dreadful and summed it up when basso went to roll the ball to him and he refused - even though there wasnt a cov player around him!Since then, GJ has stuck with him and he's starting to show us all what a class player he could be at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinker Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 It's interesting. As I live in Canada I can't obviously be at the games except for my 1 or 2 visits a season. Having seen them on TV and read reports I was under the impression that ORR and Carey were both MOM and stood out. Orr has gotten us some nice goals. Seeing Bradley at 46 and Mcallister at 2nd means either what I read has been distorted or the stats are... I failed stats at school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_23_bcfc Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Isnt it funny how people see the game so differently.I thought he was dreadful and summed it up when basso went to roll the ball to him and he refused - even though there wasnt a cov player around him!Since then, GJ has stuck with him and he's starting to show us all what a class player he could be at this level.It is and that's what makes football what it is. Its down to personal opinions at the end of the day. Did you go to Preston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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