lukejones2 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Now this isn't one of those 'I have a friend...' things where it's actually me in question, but I have a friend who is convinced that a volley, in football (as opposed to, say, tennis or squash) cannot bounce; i.e. the term volley cannot relate to a time when the ball is played, bounces up and is then struck at it is dropping..... For me, simply, the ball is in the air and you hit it = volley.Hit the ball as it is bouncing = half volleyHit the ball before it bounces after the delivery = volley, on the full.So, can anyone shed any light on this? Can't a ball be volleyed when it has bounced before being struck?(And yes, I know it's something of a silly argument, but let's just say beer was involved and I got het up...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 For me, simply, the ball is in the air and you hit it = volley.Hit the ball as it is bouncing = half volleyThat's certainly how I see it. Never thought anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady bunch Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 After reading what you put you are right in my book.If I had not seen your detail, I would have gone for the following:Volley = hit in the air and without the ball bouncingHalf Volley = hit in the air after it has bounced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Half Volley = hit in the air after it has bounced.I always thought a half-volley was when the ball was struck at the same moment it hit the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stick Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 bloody hell matemust have been a good session, to come out arguing over this one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy Parrot Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I don't think it can bounce otherwise pretty much every goal ever scored would be a volley.It's pretty rare the ball is actually on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukejones2 Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 I always thought a half-volley was when the ball was struck at the same moment it hit the groundYeah - as it as it hits/just after (I think they are generally on the way up when hit) but my definition means basically this. Glad everyone agrees, everyone he has asked seems to disagree with me...It was only a lunchtime couple actually, maybe I'm in a slightly argumentative mood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukejones2 Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 I don't think it can bounce otherwise pretty much every goal ever scored would be a volley.It's pretty rare the ball is actually on the ground.Bobbles clearly don't count.... actually in the air.. ie the ball is dropping and you hit it.. even after a bounce.... that's my volley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 It's only a volley if it doesn't touch the ground at all, otherwise it's a half volley whether you strike it as it hits the ground or after it bounces up. At least, that's how I've always understood it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley147 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 It's only a volley if it doesn't touch the ground at all, otherwise it's a half volley whether you strike it as it hits the ground or after it bounces up. At least, that's how I've always understood it.Exactly how I believe it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger22 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 It's only a volley if it doesn't touch the ground at all, otherwise it's a half volley whether you strike it as it hits the ground or after it bounces up. At least, that's how I've always understood it.And me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulie Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 It's only a volley if it doesn't touch the ground at all, otherwise it's a half volley whether you strike it as it hits the ground or after it bounces up. At least, that's how I've always understood it.And I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 As an experienced player of the game 'headers and volleys'...For a shot to be considered a volley, the ball must not touch the ground between the the player hitting the shot and the last player to have touched a ball. Therefore, if a ball is crossed into the box and the striker hits the ball before it bounces, that is a volley. Remember Mickey Bell's volley at Bournemouth in the LDV a few years back?It is possible for the striking player to have a touch after the ball is played to him, providing he keeps it in the air (Therefore, Brian Tinnion's freekick against Cambridge was also a volley).However, if the ball bounces at all between the player passing the ball and the player striking the shot, that is classed as a half volley.Those are the universal rules of headers and volleys/60 seconds, and I accept any other explanation as incorrect!EDIT: Although, saying that... I guess it is possible to flick the ball up to yourself and hit it first time. That would be a volley, even though it would be considered a foul in the game headers and volleys...[/stops wasting life trying to explain] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 You're allowed to set yourself up for overheads in headers and volleys, but not anything else. At least that's how we played it.Surely everybody used to play that game and knew the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulie Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 You're allowed to set yourself up for overheads in headers and volleys, but not anything else. At least that's how we played it.Surely everybody used to play that game and knew the rules?headers and volleys,now that takes me back,,jumpers for goalposts,,summer holidays playing football from 10 in the morning till you couldent see the ball nomore,and then on saturdays back home by 10 for motd,those were the days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 We used to play ASS or was it ****? forget now... same principle as 'headers and volleys' anyway. Do you still get the ball pelted at you from close range if you lose?Those were indeed the days.Wembley and Wembly doubles was another breaktime classic. S'pose the kids growing up between 2001/7 would have called it Millenium Stadium doubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 We used to play ASS or was it ****? forget now... same principle as 'headers and volleys' anyway. Do you still get the ball pelted at you from close range if you lose?Haha, another classic game. Yeah, and we were a lot better at firing a ball at someones backside than Liam Fontaine was...Was never a fan of Wembley myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Haha, another classic game. Yeah, and we were a lot better at firing a ball at someones backside than Liam Fontaine was...Was never a fan of Wembley myself.Main problem with Wembley was the mindless violence it promted, made that German keeper' Schumacers' 'tackle' in '82 look quite tame.Speaking of which the 17 a-side City v R*vers schoold playing field derby's..... then of course the celebratory pile on's to follow. Then all back in with sraped knees and filthy uniforms for Double Science *sighs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukejones2 Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 You are obviously spot on with the rules of headers and volleys... which misinterpret the meaning of the word volley.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSN Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 A volley is when a player hits the ball whilst in the air, without it touching the ground from a pass, or a self set up.A half volley is where the ball has bounced ONCE and is hit whilst still in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 It is where the Severn flows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 You are obviously spot on with the rules of headers and volleys... which misinterpret the meaning of the word volley.... I now go with the H&D theory. But it is common to call a ball that is struck as it hits the ground 'a half volley'. Do commentators ever say 'half volley' when it has clearly bounced?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 My take is that a ball - struck in the air, and not having touched the ground since it was last played - is a volley.Any other strike - while the ball is in air, or simultaneously as it hits the ground - is a half-volley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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