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Of course I was there yesterday as well but having seen the highlights I make these observations

Byfield -no pen when he went down but it was a pen when Adebola's shot struck the defenders arm [highlights missed an eariler pen appeal when Byfield had his shirt pulled].

Good save from Douglas to deny Byfield

Elliot failed to pick up Fallon on edge of box for first goal.

Elliot lost ball in middle leading to corner from which 2nd goal was scored.

Elliot unfairly not allowed back on pitch after treatment as corner is taken for 2nd goal

Adebola's header is across goal rather than clearing and ball goes in off Fallon's *rse - may have gone straight in from Adebola

Easter clearly handled to concede pen [Vasko fell over to win kick!!]

Good pen from Trundle

Changes need to be made - Trundle and Vasko up front against Cardiff, Brooker on bench.

Manager clearly not happy so what is he going to do about it!!!!

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Of course I was there yesterday as well but having seen the highlights I make these observations

Byfield -no pen when he went down but it was a pen when Adebola's shot struck the defenders arm [highlights missed an eariler pen appeal when Byfield had his shirt pulled].

Good save from Douglas to deny Byfield

Elliot failed to pick up Fallon on edge of box for first goal.

Elliot lost ball in middle leading to corner from which 2nd goal was scored.

Elliot unfairly not allowed back on pitch after treatment as corner is taken for 2nd goal

Adebola's header is across goal rather than clearing and ball goes in off Fallon's *rse - may have gone straight in from Adebola

Easter clearly handled to concede pen [Vasko fell over to win kick!!]

Good pen from Trundle

Changes need to be made - Trundle and Vasko up front against Cardiff, Brooker on bench.

Manager clearly not happy so what is he going to do about it!!!!

GJ has a decision to make cause elliot clearly isn't fit and hasn't been for a while now, can we afford to leave him out though?

Not sure about trundle on saturday he'll need a police escort on the pitch!!

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I thought it was an own goal from Adebola yesterday at the game, didn't understand comments on Fallon being excellent, didn't have THAT good a game, just in the right place at the right time.

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My thoughts are that Adebola definately should've had a pen in the first half when his goalbound effort blatantly struck their man's arm.

Elliott was non-existent yesterday and produced by far his worst performance in a City shirt to date. Didn't realise he may have been injured, maybe that was a reason why? I dunno.

Dele was at fault for their second goal. Nothing to do with Basso being dazed but why the big man's heading the ball back into the six-yard box is kamikaze defending really.

Trundle did well when he came on and has to start for me at Cardiff. Reckon the goal he got yesterday, great management by GJ in instructing Orr to get away from it btw, will have gave him confidence and he'll be bang up for the Severnside Derby with all the history there.

How McAllister got MOTM is beyond me. He allowed Gary Teale the freedom of the right all game as was nowhere to be seen in the first goal when he should've been dealing with it. Time for Vasko in the middle and Fontaine at left-back for me.

All in all, this was just one of those games. We didn't deserve to lose but we didn't deserve to win either. Luckily, results went for us (again) but remember this time last season when Bradford came down and won. Everyone was doubting our credentials then and look how we came back. We need a win at Cardiff on Saturday and this game really will be the acid test to see what this squad's really made of.

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didn't understand comments on Fallon being excellent, didn't have THAT good a game, just in the right place at the right time.

Disagree. Fallon won everything in the air and the defence couldn't handle him. Sign of a good striker to be in the right place at the right time. Something ours can't do.

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Disagree. Fallon won everything in the air and the defence couldn't handle him. Sign of a good striker to be in the right place at the right time. Something ours can't do.

Something we have been missing a poacher. Fallon did well yesterday shame we cant get player like him.

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OK - let's get this into perspective.

Fallon did NOT win everything in the air, his first goal was well taken from a defensive lapse on our part, and he didn't even know about his second because he was stood on the line and it deflected in off his thigh. He had a 'good game' - period.

We outplayed Plymouth for the majority of the game, the goal came against the run of play and, as I've already stated the second was a fortunate, scrambled one when we only had 10 men on the pitch.

They were NOT better than us, we lacked the quality of the final ball into our front men and our defence made a couple of silly errors. We had at least TWO penalty claims denied, even though we got the third.

Get a grip - we are still there and we have all to play for!

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OK - let's get this into perspective.

Fallon did NOT win everything in the air, his first goal was well taken from a defensive lapse on our part, and he didn't even know about his second because he was stood on the line and it deflected in off his thigh. He had a 'good game' - period.

We outplayed Plymouth for the majority of the game, the goal came against the run of play and, as I've already stated the second was a fortunate, scrambled one when we only had 10 men on the pitch.

They were NOT better than us, we lacked the quality of the final ball into our front men and our defence made a couple of silly errors. We had at least TWO penalty claims denied, even though we got the third.

Get a grip - we are still there and we have all to play for!

Yeh, in footballing terms I thought we were decent.

Certainly wasnt a poor performance we just obviously lack any attacking threat at the monent.

2 goals in 4 games (both set piece).

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Thought we lacked a bit of creativity with both Noble and Johnson being out.

Plymouth are not that good a side.

Mistake to drop Vasko.

Adebola's last 3 games have been very average.

Sproule was a threat when he ran at them.

Ref and linesman poor.

Should of had another two pens.

Too narrow in the first half, no width.

Didn't deserve to lose but if you can't score goals you will succombe.

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OK - let's get this into perspective.

Fallon did NOT win everything in the air, his first goal was well taken from a defensive lapse on our part, and he didn't even know about his second because he was stood on the line and it deflected in off his thigh. He had a 'good game' - period.

We outplayed Plymouth for the majority of the game, the goal came against the run of play and, as I've already stated the second was a fortunate, scrambled one when we only had 10 men on the pitch.

They were NOT better than us, we lacked the quality of the final ball into our front men and our defence made a couple of silly errors. We had at least TWO penalty claims denied, even though we got the third.

Get a grip - we are still there and we have all to play for!

Exactly!

We are all sick because we lost to a side we should have beaten and have not picked up a lot of points recently...However we always bounce back and I hope we will again.

To those who go on and on about missed opportunities ref strikers...We will never know if bringing in someone else would have worked, but we do know we are second in the league....Support what we have, whoever starts....This is a great opportunity for us all don't let us fail because we as supporters stopped believing!

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We created more yesterday than we did against Leicester and Watford combined.

agreed, it was a better performance yesterday and we did seem alot more creative, just the usual problem with bad luck in front of goal and poor finishing, their defence was very much how ours has been for most of the season, by them being willing to throw themselves in front of anything to keep the ball out.

some people moan about lack of loan strikers but as other teams have shown with their signings even the "decent signings" such as Luke Moore and Lita haven't actually done anything to improve their teams fortunes.

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OK - let's get this into perspective.

Fallon did NOT win everything in the air, his first goal was well taken from a defensive lapse on our part, and he didn't even know about his second because he was stood on the line and it deflected in off his thigh. He had a 'good game' - period.

We outplayed Plymouth for the majority of the game, the goal came against the run of play and, as I've already stated the second was a fortunate, scrambled one when we only had 10 men on the pitch.

They were NOT better than us, we lacked the quality of the final ball into our front men and our defence made a couple of silly errors. We had at least TWO penalty claims denied, even though we got the third.

Get a grip - we are still there and we have all to play for!

Extremely well said SR.

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We created more yesterday than we did against Leicester and Watford combined.

You sure? Leicester and Watford were battles, conditions were appalling. Can you remind me what we created yesterday, one charged down shot was all I seem to remember and good effort from outside the box from Trundle?

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had a quick look at the thread, sorry if someone mentioned this already...

am i the only one who thinks the 'cross' leading to plymuff's first goal was a complete mis-kick attempt at a shot?? i'm sure i heard some sarcastic cheers... until fallon made it 1-0 that is.

I thought that yesterday, complete fluke. So, I'm afraid, did Marvin, who reacted slower than fallon.

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Byfield's one on one with Douglas was certainly a great chance created by good work from McIndoe and Adebola and had it gone in rather than us going one down moments later, it could have all been different. It also certainly was a pen when Adebola's shot was handled, too.

I think Plymouth's six changes after two defeats is something GJ should think seriously about, Elliott is clearly struggling, presumably with an injury and neither Sproule or Wilson did themselves any favours yesterday in earning the right wing spot.

Skuse, Murray, Trundle and possibly Vasko and Noble (in the likely continued absences of Lee Johnson and Jamie McCombe) could all reasonably expect to get a chance at Cardiff.

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Two blatant missed penalties by the ref! Byfield bought down in the box and the handball from Adebola - even the neutral commentator on the Championship thought so. We were unlucky to not have been given at least one of them and the ref was pretty poor all game. Giving strange decisions both for and against us.

Fallon's 2nd goal was a great attacking header by Adebola. Shame he couldn't have done it at the right end.

Lets see Marv given a rest and Skuse blooded at Cardiff, Murray in on the right, and Trundle off Adebola up front.

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The highlights made the performance look a lot better than it sounded on the radio yesterday (I didn't go, so I may be wrong in my judgements). We still didn't really create any clear-cut chances though. Plymouth put in a decent away performance and looked a bit lucky to be honest, but that sort of thing will happen when the home team doesn't create enough chances and doesn't take the ones it does create.

Elliot seemed virtually anonymous and, tidy as Carle is, he doesn't seem to have Lee Johnson's ability to open defences, nor his quality set-piece delivery. Wilson did little and Sproule is completely out of form. I would have brought Murray on ahead of Sproule just to see what he can do.

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You sure? Leicester and Watford were battles, conditions were appalling. Can you remind me what we created yesterday, one charged down shot was all I seem to remember and good effort from outside the box from Trundle?

How come Leciester were able to make so many chances then?

We had 11 shots yesterday- against Watford we had 6 and 5 against Leicester. Not a stastic that would 100% confirm the chances but a good guide I would say.

Your memory isn't the best- Yesterday Byfield had a shot well saved in the first half, Elliott had a header cleared of the line and as the official match report said 'The final quarter-of-an-hour saw City throw the proverbial kitchen sink at their opponents. Trundle, Vasko and McAllister all fired wide of the mark.'.

Not lots of chances- but much more than the past 2 games for sure.

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My thoughts...

We had the lion's share of possession and our approach play was great. There was no shortage of effort.

We screwed up the final ball and lacked any sort of goalscoring threat around the 6 yard box.

Plymouth might have had a few on target shots statistically but they only had maybe three decent chances and scored two of them.

Elliott isn't fit nor playing anywhere near as well as he was earlier this season.

Leaving Vasko out after a MoM performance against a team with a decent header of the ball up front was a mistake.

Leaving Noble out after being one of our better players against Watford and including Byfield who was pretty anonymous and rarely seems to play well was a mistake.

Carle did OK in the centre but still hasn't scored or created a goal.

Our set piece delivery suffered greatly with Johnson's absence.

McAllister as man of the match seemed to suggest to me that the sponsors feel everyone should have a chance at winning it.

Adebola is looking like the "only plays one game in four" player that Coventry fans described him as.

Wilson tucks in too much, and this was exacerbated by McIndoe seemingly playing behind the front two instead of wide.

So for the next match...

Stick to the 4411 that has got us results not the 442 that hasn't. It's too late to change now.

Include Noble in the hole next time and drop Byfield. Play Sproule on the right wing and use Wilson at full back or not at all. Rest Elliott until he is properly fit, the last few games he has not looked any more effective than Skuse would. Recall Brooker first thing tomorrow and put him on the bench next game for the simple reason that there is nothing to lose by doing so and everything to possibly gain.

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How come Leciester were able to make so many chances then?

We had 11 shots yesterday- against Watford we had 6 and 5 against Leicester. Not a stastic that would 100% confirm the chances but a good guide I would say.

Your memory isn't the best- Yesterday Byfield had a shot well saved in the first half, Elliott had a header cleared of the line and as the official match report said 'The final quarter-of-an-hour saw City throw the proverbial kitchen sink at their opponents. Trundle, Vasko and McAllister all fired wide of the mark.'.

Not lots of chances- but much more than the past 2 games for sure.

You are right, my memory is quite poor - who did we play?

I didn't think muff r guile were anything like the side Watford were, and I didn't expect many chances against them. There were no clear cut chances. You mentioned 11 shots, only two troubled their goalie, whilst at Leicester we did get closer and beat theirs twice. (Shocking performance though).

Chances are certainly harder to come by at this level.

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