bartolona Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Anyone know anything about this? It's on the main site but it doesn't say much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayer Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Will it be another Swindon episode like years ago, refused promtion and given demotion. What an exciting run in, you just cant script these events !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I would hazard a guess it has to do with signing Enoch but that is a pure guess. There was a rumour that Mike Newell didn't renew his contract at the time because his agent wanted a £50k fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyRed Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Edit: I didnt read it properly first time! Perhaps there were some irregularities with the £1m transfer of Lee Trundle. Like the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 It is to do with Enoch. See here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbert Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I would hazard a guess it has to do with signing Enoch but that is a pure guess. Good guess http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/Ne...olc_charges.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Can you get charged for fan trouble? The FA has today charged Bristol City FC with a breach of the FA Football Agents Regulations and FA Rules. Nothing to do with fan trouble, What have we done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayer Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Can you get charged for fan trouble? shhhhhhh the fa might be reading this !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jism123 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 it says something about agents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Does not feel good this! Any knowledge on the background anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 The FA story reads to me like they're actually trying to nail Collymore and have to charge us as well to be seen to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyRed Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 From the fa.com The FA has charged Bristol City FC, their player Enoch Showunmi and agent Charles Collymore with misconduct for matters relating to Showunmi's move to the club in 2006. The club has been charged with a breach of the FA Football Agents Regulations for allegedly dealing with an unlicensed agent in respect of the engagement and/or registration of Showunmi between May and July 2006. It is also alleged that the club broke FA Rules by paying £30,000 to licensed agent Charles Collymore purportedly for services provided by him under a representation contract with the club knowing that the payment was partly or wholly for services provided by an unlicensed agent. Enoch Showunmi has been charged with engaging the services of an individual, who was not a licensed agent or entitled to act in such a capacity, to represent him in contract negotiations with Luton Town in or around February 2004 and between November 2005 and January 2006. He is also charged with using the same person for contract negotiations with Bristol City in or around May to July 2006. Charles Collymore has been charged with entering into a sham arrangement with an unlicensed agent in respect of the engagement and registration of Showunmi with Bristol City. It is alleged that he received the payment of £30,000 from the club for services rendered in part or in full by the unlicensed agent. All parties have until 18 April to respond to the charges. These charges will be dealt with alongside existing charges against Collymore. The FA charged Collymore in October 2006 with a breach of the FA Football Agents Regulations. It is alleged that Collymore touted Showunmi, then of Luton Town, to Millwall without the knowledge or consent of Luton and in breach of League rules. It is alleged that Collymore breached The FA's Football Agents Regulations and/or the FIFA Players' Agents Regulations. There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by Millwall FC. Collymore was also charged with breaching the agents regulations in that it is alleged that he represented Showunmi without a written representation contract, or that he allegedly did not lodge the representation contract with The FA. Collymore denied the previous charges and requested a personal hearing. Edit: Too slow again. I'm going to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayer Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 So whats the betting then, fine or points ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 i thought about points deduction, but as it was pointed out to me, what we have done couldnt be any worse than the whole carlos tevez episode, and all west ham got was a hefty fine. plus this relates to last season so surely they couldnt not punish us points wise this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 So whats the betting then, fine or points ????# Seeing as it relates to Enoch, perhaps the FA might give us some extra points, as compensation. P.S. £30,000 to the agent! I hope we got him on sale on return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 We're a long way from being found guilty and even if we are it will be a small fine. Points deduction won't even come into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombcfc Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Story just mentioned on Sky Sports News!!! Doesn't seem too serious though... hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 We're a long way from being found guilty and even if we are it will be a small fine. Points deduction won't even come into it. Remember folks, you heard it here first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 So whats the betting then, fine or points ???? So the FA are reacting to something which happened nearly two years ago even though all paper work has to be copied to them and so would have had the information that an allegedly unlicensed agent was involved from the outset? Two years? What exactly do people who "work" at the FA do? Oh I know! Busy themselves with the secretaries - perhaps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayer Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 After all the media coverage about these football scandles with documentaries on tv etc, this is bound to be 'in the fashion' news, so will the fa show a stern hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portishead Red Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 # Seeing as it relates to Enoch, perhaps the FA might give us some extra points, as compensation. P.S. £30,000 to the agent! I hope we got him on sale on return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zider_I_Up_Landlord Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 After all the media coverage about these football scandles with documentaries on tv etc, this is bound to be 'in the fashion' news, so will the fa show a stern hand. Just had a call from my Dad who works at Airbus. It's already started there with Gas heads telling him were going to be deducted 10 points. Where do they come up with this sh*t? ziul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff65 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 My understanding of the FA statement is this: Enoch has a mate who is unlicensed - this unlicenced chap decided to tout Enoch around to firstly Millwall and then us. All of this done without Luton knowing about it. The unlicenced chap goes to a registered agent and says - want to make money quickly? Represent Enoch and pass some of the agents fees to me. The agent Charles Collymore then purports to be Enoch's agent to Millwall and ourselves - we take him at face value and pay him his agent fee (and this is the bit we are getting charged with) knowing that the agent didnt do the agent's role 100% and some or all of the agents fee will go to Enoch's unlicensed mate. So the FA have to prove that we knew the money was going to Enoch's mate or they have to prove that it pretty damn evident that the money will go to his mate. I cannot imagine a situation that there is written evidence that this has occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Always was a little bit worried, after the whole Collymore affair happened, but remember SL at the time, stating he has no problems or issues with any transfers and feel that everything was above board and documented correctly. Considering SL's business I'm sure he has everything clear as can be and the full story will come out in time. Personally I'd be VERY suprised if found guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 After all the media coverage about these football scandles with documentaries on tv etc, this is bound to be 'in the fashion' news, so will the fa show a stern hand. you mean like they did with the Tevez deal? can't see anything major happening to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 After all the media coverage about these football scandles with documentaries on tv etc, this is bound to be 'in the fashion' news, so will the fa show a stern hand. Yeah, the fine might be more than the fee we paid the agent. It won't be points, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcryan_88 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 if the club have denied knowing that they knew part of the money was going to an unauthorized party, we shouldnt have anything to worry about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dolman Block B Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 It is to do with Enoch. See here. Nibor. In your good wisdom, what is the likely outcome should the club end up being the guilty party? Heavy fine, points reduction etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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