Nibor Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Nibor. In your good wisdom, what is the likely outcome should the club end up being the guilty party? Heavy fine, points reduction etc etc. I think if we're found guilty, which I doubt we will be because even if we are how can they prove we knew it was a sham, the most we'll get is fine the size of the fee we paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I think if we're found guilty, which I doubt we will be because even if we are how can they prove we knew it was a sham, the most we'll get is fine the size of the fee we paid. Cheers Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Just had a call from my Dad who works at Airbus. It's already started there with Gas heads telling him were going to be deducted 10 points. Where do they come up with this sh*t? ziul Yep, had that here from a Gashead at work when I came back from lunch. He was in my ear harping on about how we're cheats and match-fixers but I swiftly told him he's a 'fat, stinky, one-toothed liar' for saying we're having points deducted and he soon piped down. From what I've read in to this, I can't see how we can be found guilty if we were negotiating with this supposedly legit agent five months before charges were brought against him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 As long as the person dealing with this wasn't the same person who was charged with sending the letter to Rosenior eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastcityfan Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 According to the clubs website, and the BBC, we face charges from the FA for dealing with an unlicensed agent. What will happen if we are found quilty? Fine, points deduction........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 £50 fine would be more like it. We will not get a points deduction from something this trivial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 £50 fine would be more like it. We will not get a points deduction from something this trivial. hardly trivial, could be seen as a "bung" if found guilty of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 hardly trivial, could be seen as a "bung" if found guilty of course. We'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 knowing the FA though, it's been nearly 2 years since it happened and however long to charge us with any potential wrongdoings. It's still going to be another few months or until it actually goes to court anyway. the only thing they can do is fine us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jism123 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 http://www.thisisbristol.com/displayNode.j...;pNodeId=144930 If found guilty, the club could face a substantial fine or even a transfer embargo. They will not face a points deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slomo Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 hardly trivial, could be seen as a "bung" if found guilty of course. We'll have to get promoted now. Need that 30 million to pay the fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack’s Chin Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 excuse me if this is a extremely idiotic question but.... What is a transfer embargo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 excuse me if this is a extremely idiotic question but.... What is a transfer embargo? It's an embargo on transfers....... :noexpression: seriously - it means we wouldn't be able to buy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 http://www.thisisbristol.com/displayNode.j...;pNodeId=144930 If found guilty, the club could face a substantial fine or even a transfer embargo. They will not face a points deduction. Whilst I wouldnt say the same about some clubs, I don't think there is anyway SL would sanction a deal where he knew that there were significant rule breaches going on. I wonder how they could prove that City paid the agents fee and knew there was a back-hander going on. The only way that could be proved is presumably if City wrote 2 cheques, one to the agent, and one to A N other, or the agent who is dodgier than a 3 week old vindaloo testifying against us in court. A transfer embargo wouldnt be a problem anyway, as we are giving the existing squad a chance of messing up the promotion push. It might stop getting rid of players, like Enoch though - OH MY GOD! Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayer Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 excuse me if this is a extremely idiotic question but.... What is a transfer embargo? Its an African Bus service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man In Black Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 If there is no "smoking gun" that links us to knowing that this chap was unlicensed and paying Collymore with that knowledge then I can't see any problem. And personally, I can't believe that SL would ever do anything that broke the rules. Or actually have anything in writing to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Something slightly shady happening in a transfer deal? You will be telling me they used to fix the attendance in the 80's next In all seriousness, I don't believe that SL or GJ for that matter would knowingly do something underhand, that might cause harm to the club in anyway. You also have to think would either GJ or Sl put the club at risk for someone of Showumni's ability? He isnt exactly Messi is he? Hopefully the FA will take that into account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaloneFM Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Hang on...Enoch who? Sheffield Wednesdays Enoch Showumni probably. Look have a gander around the dressing room at the Gate and if anyone answers to that name then its a fair cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectator Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 If the BBC documentary is anything to go by, if anything has been amiss, then the Club have been duped, unknowingly. There must nowadays be so much documentation involved all going through the FA, surely anything odd would have been picked up. No way would SL/GJ/CS sanction anything untoward............especially with a Player of Showaddywaddy's ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Apparently we gave £30000 to an unlicenced agent when we signed Shuwumni http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11726_3400188,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Apparently queen Victoria's dead....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I just heard Diana was murdered too? Whats wrong with the media these days, todays news is yesterdays news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I just heard Diana was murdered too? Whats wrong with the media these days, todays news is yesterdays news! uuummm, hint of sarcasim, i only just heard, i don't sit on the internet all day like SOME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 If the BBC documentary is anything to go by, if anything has been amiss, then the Club have been duped, unknowingly. There must nowadays be so much documentation involved all going through the FA, surely anything odd would have been picked up. No way would SL/GJ/CS sanction anything untoward............especially with a Player of Showaddywaddy's ability. Of course the FA will see that the club was duped. We were led to believe that what we were getting was a big, tall, strong, fast, striker who would put himself about using his hieght, weight strength and power and score goals regularly. What we actually got was Enoch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenun Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Andy Stockhausen's back page article 'CITY ROCKED BY FA CHARGE' in today's EP, thankfully features the following paragraph: "If found guilty, the club could face a substantial fine or even a transfer embargo. They will not face a points deduction." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Andy Stockhausen's back page article 'CITY ROCKED BY FA CHARGE' in today's EP, thankfully features the following paragraph: "If found guilty the club could face a substantial fine or a transfer embargo. They will not face a points deduction." Would a transfer embargo mean that we couldn't then sell Enoch? That would be poetic justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenun Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Would a transfer embargo mean that we couldn't then sell Enoch? That would be poetic justice. I believe that Enoch is out of contract at the end of this season, but can anyone confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Yep. he is out of contract.......along with about a dozen others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 uuummm, hint of sarcasim, i only just heard, i don't sit on the internet all day like SOME Few other threads about though isnt there? Anyway, I resent that! I work for a living....what else am I meant to do all day! :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessels Chick Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Is Collymore the guy who featured heavily in that documentary/expose on telly a while back?? Might have missed it but have any other clubs being charged in respect to the evidence from that programme?? Or are we just the first of a load more charges to be brought by FA?? In which case we may be made an example of or set a precedent for those to follow .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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