Robin Badge Petition (Merged)

[cider head]

...still don't agree with you, but admire your research!

Fair enough

The Robin is undoubtedly a icon of Britain featuring on Christmas cards but from 1976 for nearly two decades was along with the Suspension bridge the emblem of Bristol City fc. This period was without doubt the most successful but also turbulent in the clubs history. For a time during this period it seemed City had established themselves in the first division before becoming the first ever team to suffer three successive relegations and occupying bottom spot of the fourth division by early 82.

In the mid nineties the decision was taken to change the clubs emblem back to a crest. Now some ten years and more on this move has still yet to really catch the imagination of fans or even become an instantly identifiable image associated with Bristol City fc. Ask most fans of other fans what is the nickname of Bristol City fc? Instantly it's the Robins. Ask what features on the club badge and the answer is the Robin and Suspension bridge not the crest of Bristol! Even the media constantly use the Robin and Suspension bridge seemingly in the mistaken belief it really is Citys current badge.

There's something unlovable about the Crest. Its not really ours, Bristol City have no greater claim on it than anybody else and parts of the design have indeed been used by the noxious Gas in the past, the egg chasing lot up Gloucester road, the Bristol Car company and part currently looks suspiciously like the anti sport lesbian loving tofu eating councils image. The Gas have as much claim to this badge as we do and we do not need a symbol that represents all of Bristol including Easton, Eastville, Fishponds and Horfield.

In the Robin and Suspension bridge we have the perfect emblem of our club. Here with its Suspension bridge is a celebration of a marvel of architecture which nobody else can lay claim to. Couple this with the Robin a Spirited fierce fighter, willing to battle with rival birds to the death to defend its territory and we have something to be proud of.

This robin works, its simple, instantly recognisable with a perfect balance of red , white and black catching the onlookers attention and remaining in the memory. The Crest simply does not work in the same manner, its fussy, unoriginal, forever tainted with its association with others and the terrible and the repellent stigma pictured .

All supporters groups (including the supporters trust & club) bare a robin in some form, the club has the nick name the robins and has a mascott of a robin but use the bristol crest that has no personal identity, we feel it's time for the robins return.

The red red robin, finally, has died - or so it would seem. On 22nd August 1994 Bristol city football club announced that the Robin would be removed from all club stationary and memorabilia and replaced with the so called more popular city of Bristol emblem. Such a replacement would end an on off association of over 70 years between the red-breasted one and the red-shirted ones but, evidently, there are those who disagree with the decision to this day.

Back in 1994 on the way to the Northampton game the City Away Travel Service launched a petition in an attempt to keep the well-known emblem and it appeared that those making the journey were quite prepared to sign it. Back then we signed it but, like many others, have reservations about the fate of the bird and it's continued association with City.

Ther club's claim in 1994 was that the Robin/Suspension Bridge/Football emblem looks like an amateur club's attempt at a logo from the mid-70's. Such a design is no way to present the clubs official documents - the city of Bristol emblem was said to be much more appropriate; it is geographically specific and so say more professional than the old combination od bird, bridge and ball.

It is also fair to state that the Robin is not unique to Bristol. Talk of the 'Robins' can relate equally to Swindon, Wrexham, Cheltenham or even Charlton which was seen by the club as a reason further to support it's continuation: some of the most popular club nicknames are those which relate to the historical occupations of the fans - Luton will always be the 'Hatters,' Rotherham the 'merry Millers,' and Crewe Alexandra the Railwaymen.' Whilst We accept that City could never be the ''Faggers,' 'Smokers' or 'Tobacconists,' from obvious links with the now destroyed factory, there is also the docking history of the area to consider. It seems some people think that the 'Robins' simply comes about as a result of the red shirts which we wear'', and hardly the most original of sources some would think and really just a more innovative form of the 'Reds' or Blues' which so many clubs still use, however 'not only does the robin come from Bristol city wearing red, it also ties in to our westcounty & cider history as for generations people have carred out the tradintion of Wassail! The villagers form a circle around the largest apple tree, hang pieces of toast soaked in cider in the branches for the robins, who represent the 'good spirits' of the tree. A shotgun is fired overhead to scare away evil spirits and the group sings, cider and robins with Bristol city go hand in hand.

In despite of this argument the Robin obviously has a distguished history and many seem to dislike the fact from 1997 to this day will have lost or lose it in this sense, many fans have been trying to get the robin back since 1994 up to 2011 and other forms of the Robin including the Eastend fans Robin ''fondly known as ernie'' which unofficially are keeping the Robin history alive, one for the Bistol city contains ''Down at Ashton gate there is Alan dicks

and the red, red robin to'' this tune reproduced when gary johnson was manager.

Oddly enough since the Robin was no longer officially the clubs' emblem it appears to have preserved it as a nickname and has a mascot ''Robin'' parading around the pitch on match days which ''Scrumpy'' has its merchandise sold in the club shop!. If there is no link between City and The Robin other than the colour red which the two share, it would ludicrous to maintain the link? would it not??? - it is the use of the Robin in the emblem, and this only, that sets us apart from Swindon or Wrexham. As fans we need identity and this is one of the strongest arguments for a return of the Robin as from 1994 our nickname and the Bristol emblem has been irrelevant to Brisol City Football Club, lets bare in mind the Bristol City supporters trust bare a Robin as it's own emblem/logo.

The historical connotations are also important. It is well known that the Robin has been accociated with Bristol City for well over 70 years and was well supported by a number of former players and club associates. Indeed, Donnie Gilles said that he was disgusted by the decision to part with the Robin emblem, recently David james (keen artist) suggested on twitter that the crest was too fussy and a robin would be better for kids to be involved with to draw.

The say progress must continually be made and occasionally it goes against popular opinion - removing the Robin was just as much a commercial decision as changing the colour of the away kit is; the club is not trying to be vindictive towards fans by replacing the Robin, they were simply making a decision which they believed will be beneficial to Bristol City in the long term (which from 1994 to 2011 is questionable considering the amount of fans wanting the Robins return) We do not want to see the history of our club eroded.

There are said to be three other points that so say favour the club's decision in 1994; When the Robin was replaced on the strip by the Bristol emblem an Evening post poll showed the majority of fans in favour of change; (although evening post polls like other polls can be used as great fun for rival fans). Secondly, when was the last time that the accompanying song was sung by all corners of of the ground as Drink Up Thy Cider now is??? (mind you these days it is a struggle to get all corners of of the ground singing in union if at all) we do though seem happier singing about our drinking habbits than our flying/bobbing habbits and, what's more, without the Robin the Gas will be entirely without any vaguely original songs; there will be no more shooting of the illegitimate bird; thirdly, the Robin, to many suggests weakness (those that are at least no nothing about birds) - it's so say a really little bird that ends up getting eaten by bigger birds or cats; a club like Crystal Palace have adopted a so called dominent, powerful bird in the eagle as their club mascot/emblem type of thing. So say the Robin is the root of endless jibes and jokes, so should it be a problem not to bring the Robin back?...

As it is fairly obvious that those at robinback.co.uk are in favour of bringing the Robin back, officially, to Bristol City FC. As The Robin will always be associated with Bristol City (we have a robin mascot and nick name) and i think that changing the clubs nick name is highly unlikely - there will always be that association. Therefore we would suggest a return of the Robin or at least some form of comromise, courses of action could be a re-designed, modern, professional Robin logo/emblem that represents Bristol City and the clubs nick name, this would appease the long suffering supporters of the Robin. Ok there are people who have Bristol emblem tattoo's the club could still keep the crest on the shorts for them but when did the club spare a thought for the many fans who have Robin tattoo's??? memorabilia should not be a problem for the club shop to stock both? for choice?? the choice the many Robin fans do not have.

[cider head]

Another cut 'n' paste job, about the crest and bristol badge, these two were merged and not original

Even Gloucester cricket club who play at the County Cricket Ground in Bristol use a Bristol crest and can be said the logo is odd for their personal ID but then again, any of the Bristol city fans who live outside of Bristol where a Bristol badge may have no meaning to them but a personal Club ID would do, that is very much detached from the Bristol crest.

I know a fair few people from weston and taunton, radstock & frome areas who could not give a rats about Bristol and the badge but love Bristol city fc, it goes to show how the ernie robin became popular to the point people had tattoo's of this image as it represented a personal ID to them and their football club.

A bit long winded but history can be just that:

As i said The crest (bristol coat of arms) was a re-brand and meger with in itself back in the day with ship and castle (coat of arms) and crest supporters (unicorns) putting the two together so it's not as traditional as people like to make out.

The arms are based on the early seals of Bristol, from which the ship and castle theme (signifying a strongly fortified harbour) developed (part of that is slavery). The shield was in use from about the 14th century, and to this was added in 1569 supporters (the two unicorns) and the crest (two arms rising from the clouds holding scales and a serpent). The significance of these various items is recorded in the City Audit Books of this time:- the Unicorns will only do homage to men of virtue; the arms in the crest signify that good government depends on wisdom (the serpent) and justice (the scales) and that these are divine gifts from above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_slave_trade

Bristol's Seals, Arms and Logos

Seals were introduced as a way of authenticating documents. A blob of soft sealing wax was melted and the seal, often in the form of a signet ring, pressed into it. Seals have been in use for a long time and there is a mention of them being misused in the Bible's Old Testament, 1 Kings 21:8 in King James version says...

So she [Jezebel] wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth. The first known seal used by the City of Bristol was issued early in the reign of King Edward I who reigned from 1272 to 1307.

This seal has two halves that were aligned using the lugs seen on the above image. It was used not only on official city of Bristol documents but was used by city burgesses whose seals were not sufficiently well-known. A burgess was originally any freeman of a particular borough but was later redefined as any city official either elected or not.

One side of the seal shows the castle, which was built between 1130 and 1150, including the great keep on which a watchman stands with a trumpet. The reverse shows a ship approaching the castle watergate along the Avon which teems with fish and eels. Ships at that time were steered using a broad board over the side of the ship and not with a rudder at the stern. A watchman points out the entrance to the watergate.

The text on this side of the seal reads "Secreti clavis sum portus. Navita navis Portam custodit. Portum vigil indice prodit." A translation of this is "I am the key of the hidden port. The sailor watches the port side of the ship. The watchman points out the port with his finger", an alternative translation is "I am the key of the secret port. The pilot steers the helm of the ship. The warder points out the port with his fore-finger."

This seal is the only one that I have seen where the ship is entering the castle watergate, all seals after this show the ship leaving the watergate. This seal was in use until 1569 when Bristol was granted a crest with supporters - the golden unicorns - for the civic arms.

There was another seal apparently also issued in the reign of Edward I and that now shows the ship leaving the castle...

City seal from the the reign of Edward I

Image from "Bristol Past and Present" by James Fawckner Nicholls and John Taylor, published by J. W. Arrowsmith, 1881

The text reads "Sigillum Maioritatis Ville Bristolie."

Another seal was issued during the reign of Edward III in 1359...

Second mayoral seal - 1359

Image from "Civic Treasures of Bristol" by Mary E. Williams, published by City of Bristol, 1984

This seal replaced an earlier seal that was produced earlier in Edward III's reign. What happened was that Edward had assumed the title of "King of France" in 1340 and the old seal did not acknowledge this fact in the Royal Standard shown on it. The seal above shows a ship departing from the castle's watergate. The Royal Standard flying from the bow of the ship shows the arms of both England and France. Standing on the castle ramparts are two watchmen. The one on top of the castle has a trumpet and is standing with a signal beacon and a flag bearing a fleur-de-lis. The on on the right in one of the turrets simple has a trumpet. This seal was also in use, usually countersigned by the mayor's personal seal, until the 16th century.

James Fawckner Nicholls and John Taylor in "Bristol Past and Present" describe another seal that was in use during the reign of Henry VIII (reigned from 1509 to 1547). They say that this seal shows a castle with two warders on separate towers, both blowing trumpets. The bow of a ship is seen leaving the watergate flying a Royal Standard that shows the arms of England and France with the number fleur-de-lis in the first quarter reduced to three, a change that took place in the reign of Henry V, who was King of England from 1413 to 1422.

Whilst searching online for information for these pages I came across the website at Florida Educational Technology Clearinghouse which shows another version of the city seal...

City of Bristol seal

Arms of the City of Bristol
From left to right these date from the 14th, 16th and 17th centuries
Image from "John Cabot" by Marquis of Dufferin and Ava, published in Scribner's Magazine, Vol XXII, 1897

Crest and Supporters

The biggest change to Bristol's arms came on 20th August, 1569 when Bristol was granted the right add supporters, the golden unicorns, and a crest, the arms rising through the clouds holding a serpent and scales it's arms. John Latimer in "Sixteenth Century Bristol" explains how this came about.

In 1558, Queen Elizabeth I ascended the throne. Until then the annual muster of the "trained bands" had been largely ignored by Bristol, as well as most other cities. The governement started to insist that the annual muster of trained, armed men should take place and in 1561, some rusty old armour was found and dusted off. Twenty men were sent off with a quantity of gunpowder to the Gloucestershire muster with 6s 8d each for their trouble. They were not a success and their inclusion in the muster was regarded as derogatory.

The city chamberlain was dispatched to London to plead for a reaffirmation of the city's rights and privileges which was granted. A little "grease" to oil the wheels of beaurocracy had to be applied though. For example, the Earl of Pembroke who was Lord High Steward of Bristol received a butt of sack - that is, 108 gallons of sweet wine, for his inconvenience. Amongst other things, the privileges meant that Bristol would now carry out its own annual musters.

To add splendor to the muster, Latimer tells us that "12 ells of sarsanet, red, blue and yellow was purchased in London for £5 3s to make an ensign for the troops which was decorated with two buttons of gold and tassells. Sarsanet was a type of silk first imported by the Crusaders. An ell was a measure of cloth. 1 ell = 20 nails = 5 quarters (of the yard) = 45 inches. Also purchased were two drums to provide the marching beat.

The next year the muster was carried out on the Marsh in Bristol where men with new uniforms were gathered. Payment of the troops cost the city £4 16s 8d. It was at this muster where feelings began to arise that what Bristol really needed was a crest and supporters to for its arms - just like London had theirs. The new crest and supporters cost Bristol £7, and once that was granted, a further £4 for a new seal engraved by goldsmith Giles Unyt.

By 1570, the city could muster 160 men with new uniforms, equipment and guns with enough for 20 more stored in the Guildhall. The uniforms cost the city another £65 and consisted of cassocks with laced sleeves, breeches and iron corslets. This was quite a sizable force for a city of 6,000 inhabitants as Bristol then was.

John Evans in his 1824 book "A Chronological Outline of the History of Bristol and the Stranger's Guide" describes the letter of patent...

By a patent of "Robert Cooke esq, alias Clariencieux, principall and kinge of armes of the southe easte and weste partes of this realme of England from the river of Trente southewardes," the arms of the City of Bristol are declared to be "gules on a mount vert, issuant out of a castle silver upon wave, a ship golde;" and the crest and supporters now granted, "upon the heaulme in a wreathe golde and gules; issuant out of the cloudes two armes in saltour charnew, in the one hand a serpent vert, in the other a pair of balance gold; supported with two unicornes seant gold mained, horned; and clayed sables mantled gules dowbled silver." The motto, "Virtute et industria."

The full text of this letter of patent is in both "Proceedings of the Clifton Antiquarian Club for 1904 - 1908" and John Latimer's "Sixteenth Century Bristol"

To ALL AND SINGULAR AS WELL NOBLES AND GENTLEMEN and others to whom these presents shall come Robert Cooke esquire alias Clarencieux, Principall Heraulte and kinge of armes of the southe easte and weste partes of this realme of England from the river of trent southwardes sendithe humble comendacons and greeting FORASMOCHAS aunciently from the begining the valiaunt and vertuous actes of worthi persons have ben comended to the worlde with sondry monumets and remembrances of their good deserts, emongst the which the chiefest and most usuall hathe ben the bearing of signes in shildes caled armes which are evident demonstracons of prowes diversly distributed accordinge to the qualities and deserts of the persons meretinge the same to the end that suche as have done comendable service to their prince or country eyther in warre or peace may both receave due honor in their lives and also derive the same successively to their posteretie after them.

AND WHEREAS THIS CITIE OF BRISTOLL hath of long time ben incorporate by the name of mayor and comonalty as by the moste noble prince of famouse memory Kinge Edward the third and laitely confirmed by the Quenes Majestie that now is by the name and names as is aforesaid by virtue of which corporation and sithens the first grant thereof there hathe ben auncient armes incident unto the said mayor and comonaltie that is to saye, gules, on a mount vert issuant out of a castle silver, uppon wave a ship golde, YET NOT UPSTANDING, UPPON divers consideratons they have required me the said Clarencieux kinge of armes to grant to their auncient armes a creaste, withe supportars due and lawfull to be borne, WHEREUPPON, CONSIDERING their worthines and knowenge their request to be reasonable, I have by vertue of my office of Clarencieux kinge of armes confirmed given and granted unto John Stone now mayor, John Hipsley recordar, David Harris, Willm Pepwell, Robert Sayer, Roger Jones and Willm Lawe, Aldermen, Thomas Crickland and Richard Yonge sherives, Robert Halton chamberlayn and Richard Willimot towneclarke, and to their successors in lief office, this Creaste and supportars herafter followenge that is to say, uppon the heaulme on a wreathe golde and gules, issuant out of the clowdes, two armes in saltour charnew in the one hand a serpent vert, in the other a pair of balance gold, supported with two unicorns seant gold mayned horned clayed sables mantled gules doubled silver as more playnely aperth depicted in the margent, To HAVE and HOLDE THE SAID armes creaste and supportars to the said mayor and comonalty and to their successors, and they it to use beare and shew for ever more without impediment let or interuption of any persons or persons, In Witness whereof I have subscribed my hande and set hereunto the seale of my office the fower and twentithe day of August in the yere of our Lorde God A thousand five hondrethe thre score and nyne, and in the eleventh yere of the reigne of our sovereigne lady Elizebethe, by the grace of God Quene of England France and Irelande, Defendor of the Faithe, et cet "Robert Cooke Alias Clarencieux" "Roy D'armes."

Notice that the full version does not mention the city's motto "Virtute et industria." The article in "Proceedings of the Clifton Antiquarian Club for 1904 - 1908" also gives an illustration of the city of Bristol arms...

City of Bristol arms
Image from "Proceedings of the Clifton Antiquarian Club for 1904 - 1908"

Symbolism

The various elements that make up the arms mean something. The oldest part, the ship and castle, are pretty obvious.. other elements not so much. The unicorns will only do homage to men of virtue, hence the unicorns are seant (seated) rather than rampant (rearing up on their hind legs). The arms in the crest signify that good government depends on wisdom (the serpent) and justice (the scales) and that these are divine gifts from above - which is why the arms are rising out of a cloud.

I've not found an explanation, or even a hint, of why the crest includes a helm. A search of internet heraldry websites does give a rough idea though. When included on arms the helm is placed above the shield and supports the crest. It does not always signify any particular achievement in armed conflict but the style does depend on the social rank of the bearer. Open helms were reserved for the nobility whilst closed helms, like that on the city's arms, were used for the commonality.

Two slightly different version of Bristol's arms

The Motto

Although the text in John Evans' 1824 book "A Chronological Outline of the History of Bristol and the Stranger's Guide" gives the impression that the motto was introduced at the same time as the crest and supporters, the full text of the letter of patent by Robert Cooke Alias Clarencieux makes no mention of it. Mary Williams, the City Archivist, in her 1984 book, "Civic Treasures of Bristol", says that...

"It is not known when Bristol first began to incorporate the motto "Virtute et Industria" (by Virtue and Industry), but this was possibly in the early eighteenth century."

Errors of Depiction

Alderman W. R. Barker J.P. (Justice of the Peace - a magistrate) made a study of the various forms of the arms and lamented on January 17th, 1908, as reported in "Proceedings of the Clifton Antiquarian Club for 1904 - 1908", the lack of conformity when reproducing the City of Bristol arms. He said "I might go so far as to say that every engraver and die-sinker, every printer and stationer, in dealing with our much-displayed city arms has put forward what has been most ready to hand, or what has appeared to make the prettiest picture, as the correct thing.

There are several common errors which can sometimes be seen. One is that instead of issuing from the castle's watergate the ship is sometimes seen passing in front of the castle, or in Alderman Barker's words "creeping round from behind the castle". Sometimes the unicorns are seen rampant (rearing on their hind legs) instead of sitting on their haunches or even one or both replaced by lions. Alderman Barker also decried the use of the city's arms being unofficially used by various organizations and businesses, especially when they made changes to the design.

Of course, some people are not happy with the addition of the crest and supporters at all. James Fawckner Nicholls and John Taylor in their 1881 book, "Bristol Past and Present" say...

I cannot conclude this paper without expressing my regret that such a crest should have been assigned by any king of arms to such a grand old coat as that which has for six centuries distinguished the city of Bristol. The unicorns, but for their unpicturesque attitude, might be accepted, though not in the least applicable to the city; but the crest is designed in the very worst style of heraldic composition.

They then illustrate the article with a version of the arms that Alderman Barker would not have liked at all as it shows the ship "creeping round from behind the castle"...

Image from "Bristol Past and Present" by James Fawckner Nicholls and John Taylor, published by J. W. Arrowsmith, 1881

Badge

As well as the seal and arms Bristol has a badge. Over the years many organizations and businesses have wanted to use all or portions of the arms as their logo or in advertising. The arms are properly reserved for the use of the city council but on 16th February, 1983, Bristol was granted the use of a badge for use by organizations other than the city council

City of Bristol badge

Image from "Civic Treasures of Bristol" by Mary E. Williams, published by City of Bristol, 1984

The badge symbolizes Bristol's maritime heritage and depicts the ship and castle surrounded by a rope. The fleur-de-lis represent the points of the compass and Bristol sailor's role in exploration.

Logo

Almost every department of the city council has its own logo as do organizations funded or sponsored by it. The main city council logo is a representation of the original seal of the city of Bristol...

Bristol City Council logo

There were other logos produced for special occasions or campaigns. One of the best was produced for the Bristol 600 celebrations in 1973 when Bristol celebrated it's 600th year of being a county in its own right...

Bristol 600 logo

Image from Bristol Evening Post, Bristol 600 souvenir program, 1973 This logo shows the supersonic airliner Concorde overflying a sailing ship. Concorde entered service in 1976 and was retired in 2003 - a remarkable length of time for a single type of civil aircraft.

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[everreddy]

cider head, your argument, backed by extensive and impressive research has (almost) won me over! Are you a member of the Fans' Parliament, due to discuss this as an agenda item, next week, I wonder? If so, it would be interesting to carry on the debate "live"!

In the meantime, let's hope those perky "robins" are on the "crest" of a Bristol wave, tonight!!!

[054123]

city shirt.jpg

I really like this kit and badge.

[cider head]

cider head, your argument, backed by extensive and impressive research has (almost) won me over! Are you a member of the Fans' Parliament, due to discuss this as an agenda item, next week, I wonder? If so, it would be interesting to carry on the debate "live"!

In the meantime, let's hope those perky "robins" are on the "crest" of a Bristol wave, tonight!!!

Aye! on all counts

Those also said about no scroll

It loses slight quality when hosted up on facebook etc but the original vector file is good

[Red-Robbo]

I hope I'm not the only person who saw a thread entitled "Robin Badge" and thought for a second that it was about some obscure lower league player being recommended

[beaverface]

Just to be picky - you never see footballs with the black and white hexagonal panels anymore, so if it's a modern badge you're going for, the football looks out of place.

[cider head]

I have been asked to pass on the following:

The three lions and Robin Back present the opportunity to win hospitality tickets for the forthcoming match that is Bristol city vs Nottingham forest at Ashton gate on Saturday 9th February 2013 k/o 3pm

All you need to do is visit the Three lions 206 West Street Bedminster Bristol BS3 3NB. Tel: 0117 9020056

Buy a drink and sign the robin back paper petition provided in the pub or sign online which then automatically
enters you in to the draw to win the hospitality tickets, the draw winner will be announced on Friday 8th February 2013

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/bristol-city-we-want-our-robin-back

What the ticket will entitle you to:

11.25 – Please check-in at the Directors ‘Lancer Scott’ Williams Stand

11.35 – Champagne Reception, cash bar facility available

11.45 – Behind the scene stadium tour of Ashton Gate

12.30 – Luxury four course-meal is served

13.45 – Former City Legend interview

14.00 – AMC Communications prize draw

14.45 – Please take your seats in the Premier Seating

15.00 – Kick-Off

15.45 – Half time refreshments

16.00 – Second Half

16.45 – Full time, please return to the VIP Premier Suite

17.30 – Selected Man of the Match interview and presentation to Sponsors

18.00 – Thank you for your support, we wish you a safe journey home.

[Cambridge Batch Red]

Fantastic show of support for the Robin - the only real independent Bristol City badge.

[bucksred]

As long as the club name is on the badge, Im happy with the drawings above. The badge would then be a Bristol City FC badge, not a generic Bristol badge.

Well done to the authors..

[Warwickshire Red]

Only my view of course but prefer the name NOT to be on the badge.

As long as we have iconic images like the bridge and robin which has been associated with City, I'd argue the name isn't necessary and actually makes the badge look overly fussy. Most of the iconic badges of other teams like Forest and Wolves are simple images that seem to work without team name.

[JOSH17]

how do you put up pics from paint thanks?

[M_Porter]

Ive tidied them up a bit for you:

[M_Porter]

[JOSH17]

As I don't know how to upload pics on here can you tell me what you think to one I put up on the rumors site thanks http://www.football-rumours.co.uk/ps_266.php

[T R]

how do you put up pics from paint thanks?

www.photobucket.com

Make an account with this website. You can then upload your pictures to it, Once you upload the picture it will show 4 different links to the picture, copy the 'IMG code' link and paste it into the text box on here.

[T R]

I have been asked to pass on the following:

The three lions and Robin Back present the opportunity to win hospitality tickets for the forthcoming match that is Bristol city vs Nottingham forest at Ashton gate on Saturday 9th February 2013 k/o 3pm

All you need to do is visit the Three lions 206 West Street Bedminster Bristol BS3 3NB. Tel: 0117 9020056

Buy a drink and sign the robin back paper petition provided in the pub or sign online which then automatically

enters you in to the draw to win the hospitality tickets, the draw winner will be announced on Friday 8th February 2013

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/bristol-city-we-want-our-robin-back

What the ticket will entitle you to:

11.25 – Please check-in at the Directors ‘Lancer Scott’ Williams Stand

11.35 – Champagne Reception, cash bar facility available

11.45 – Behind the scene stadium tour of Ashton Gate

12.30 – Luxury four course-meal is served

13.45 – Former City Legend interview

14.00 – AMC Communications prize draw

14.45 – Please take your seats in the Premier Seating

15.00 – Kick-Off

15.45 – Half time refreshments

16.00 – Second Half

16.45 – Full time, please return to the VIP Premier Suite

17.30 – Selected Man of the Match interview and presentation to Sponsors

18.00 – Thank you for your support, we wish you a safe journey home.

Nice one cider head, hopefully I will be up there this saturday. Well done to all those involved.

[JOSH17]

www.photobucket.com

Make an account with this website. You can then upload your pictures to it, Once you upload the picture it will show 4 different links to the picture, copy the 'IMG code' link and paste it into the text box on here.

Thanks ill try it later.

[T R]

I put some cables on the bridge. I noticed when you looked at it from a distance, the bridge looks like a pair of eyes. So I just thought I'd put some cables in between.

[T R]

For those who do not like the robin, or us being called the robins. I thought I'd do this for you, we do sing a song about this bird, and do have a bit of black on our kit (not to be taken seriously).

[cider hoss rules]

As I don't know how to upload pics on here can you tell me what you think to one I put up on the rumors site thanks http://www.football-rumours.co.uk/ps_266.php

Not a lot if I'm honest, looks too much of a jumble up of 3 different pictures. Sorry.

[cider head]

Some other robin designs spotted around the internet

[JOSH17]

Yeah it does have a lot on it so the robin would probably be too small as wall.

Some other robin designs spotted around the internet

I like the 3rd one down.

[cider head]

A bit different

[BCFC Jordan]

I put some cables on the bridge. I noticed when you looked at it from a distance, the bridge looks like a pair of eyes. So I just thought I'd put some cables in between.

I'll be honest, I've never really campaigned for the Robin to be brought back. I guess due to my age I'm just used to the current badge. However, this is a great design.

[Fiale]

A bit different

That's actually a nice design - Robins for Unicorns

[Brockleb]

Good effort but I much prefer the current coat of arms. Like City, the coat of arms is classy.

[JOSH17]

[JOSH17]

[Spike]

How about we keep everyone happy then and use my Bristol City fantasy Premier League kit (Note: the template is the same as Forza Red's post which is one of Adidas' other template kits). It has the coat of arms badge and I added the Robin badge today so it covers everything right? :S