Monkeh Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Has retired from international football, Great player and the correct thing to do, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Def right time, he wants to play for Liverpool for a few more seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Shame that he has had to bow out after his worst international tournament but the time is right and he isn't the player he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol south end Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Right time. Great service. Step up the next generation. Promising younsters like Ross Barkley to name one. Lets see what they can achive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Another big player to considerably underperform on the big stage.. Cheerio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Rooney to be the new skipper?, should please everyone.......!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Another big player to considerably underperform on the big stage.. Cheerio he's one of the few that always put in 100% imo, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Without a doubt my favourite midfielder of the last 10 years, but the world cup performance from him was shocking. Considering his season at Liverpool. At least it gives a new lease of life for the young players coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Jim Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 The right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Without a doubt my favourite midfielder of the last 10 years, but the world cup performance from him was shocking. Considering his season at Liverpool. At least it gives a new lease of life for the young players coming in. I don't think he recovered from the Chelsea game and failing to win the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 114 caps for England, but in how many of those games did he play anywhere near as well as he played for Liverpool? He played well in the 5-1 in Munich, played well against Sweden in the 2006 world cup (when England were already through to the next round), played well in a 3-1 win in a qualifier in Belarus, and did OK in a few friendlies, but more often than not he was distinctly average (or worse) in an England shirt. Yet for some reason the press were always reluctant to criticise his performances for England. Possession is key at international level and I don't think there has been an England player who has given the ball away as consistently as Gerrard over the last 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I don't think he recovered from the Chelsea game and failing to win the title. I don't think he recovered from Hodgson's shocking tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 he's one of the few that always put in 100% imo, Really? How many caps did he win, over 100.....name me 10 games that he really took by the scruff of the neck Another one of the great underachievers on the international stage for me, good player for Liverpool, but I don't care about that - so it's goodnight from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 he's one of the few that always put in 100% imo, He might of put in 100%, but as Woody said how many games did he really take by the scruff of the neck? I can count them on my one hand. In 10 or so years time Gerrard will be thought of as part of a generation that had potential but hugely underachieved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 he certainly did more for England than Scholes ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 He might of put in 100%, but as Woody said how many games did he really take by the scruff of the neck? I can count them on my one hand. In 10 or so years time Gerrard will be thought of as part of a generation that had potential but hugely underachieved I'm sorry I can't agree, Gerard is one player, if everyone put in the effort he has we would be talking about a different england team at the moment, a constant pro and will be missed at international level, who would have done his job in the last 50 or so games? because I can't think of 1 single player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm sorry I can't agree, Gerard is one player, if everyone put in the effort he has we would be talking about a different england team at the moment, a constant pro and will be missed at international level, who would have done his job in the last 50 or so games? because I can't think of 1 single player Do you honestly think he performed the same way he did for Liverpool when playing for England? The same with Lampard and Chelsea? I don't think so. The "Golden" generation in 2006 all had the same problem, performed for club, not for country. And you are right, no one else could have done his job in the last 50 games or so, which says more about the fact we can't produce good enough English players to try and create competition for Gerrards position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Really? How many caps did he win, over 100.....name me 10 games that he really took by the scruff of the neck Another one of the great underachievers on the international stage for me, good player for Liverpool, but I don't care about that - so it's goodnight from me Bang on. A great player but time for him to go. Always gave everything but in all honesty hasn't influenced or dictated games at international level for far too long now. Never replicated his club form and certainly didn't lead England with the same drive as he did Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm sorry I can't agree, Gerard is one player, if everyone put in the effort he has we would be talking about a different england team at the moment, a constant pro and will be missed at international level, who would have done his job in the last 50 or so games? because I can't think of 1 single player Is this the same Gerrard who chose to have non-essential surgery which meant he missed two England world cup qualifiers in 2008, but surprise surprise, didn't miss any Liverpool games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 No disputing his effort, but my abiding memory of Gerrard in a England shirt is him charging forward with his head down into a group of players and we lose possession, playing an impossible ball and we lose possession. The golden generation has had more than enough chances, time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 114 caps for England, but in how many of those games did he play anywhere near as well as he played for Liverpool? He played well in the 5-1 in Munich, played well against Sweden in the 2006 world cup (when England were already through to the next round), played well in a 3-1 win in a qualifier in Belarus, and did OK in a few friendlies, but more often than not he was distinctly average (or worse) in an England shirt. Yet for some reason the press were always reluctant to criticise his performances for England. Possession is key at international level and I don't think there has been an England player who has given the ball away as consistently as Gerrard over the last 15 years. Couldn't agree more. His inability to keep possession for England always seemed to go unnoticed. Perhaps he wasn't used in his best position often enough or until his later years but ultimately didn't replicate his club form enough on the international stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Reflects badly of Hodgeson when a senior but ageing player makes his own decision on when to retire from international football. Surely it should have been the manager who should of taken Gerrard quietly to one side after tha World Cup and told him that it was time for the younger players and thank him for his service to his country. No doubt the same will happen with Lampard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think the question to ask about Steve G is this No one doubts that he always put in a shift but how many of those games did he effect? I would say not many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Hasn't been good for England in for a long time.. kinda glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 He had a good Euro 2012, where he set up over half of ours goals, including that peach of a cross for Carroll in the Sweden game. The World Cup though, he was very poor, which is a shame really. Lahm retires after winning it, Gerrard retires after England's worst ever World Cup performance. Jack Rodwell was supposed to the next holding, dynamic midfielder, but he's busy sitting on Man City's reserves subs bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 114 caps for England, but in how many of those games did he play anywhere near as well as he played for Liverpool? He played well in the 5-1 in Munich, played well against Sweden in the 2006 world cup (when England were already through to the next round), played well in a 3-1 win in a qualifier in Belarus, and did OK in a few friendlies, but more often than not he was distinctly average (or worse) in an England shirt. Yet for some reason the press were always reluctant to criticise his performances for England. Possession is key at international level and I don't think there has been an England player who has given the ball away as consistently as Gerrard over the last 15 years. Agree, agree 500% ( if that's possible!) with your last sentence, England never had a hope of winning anything with him in midfield. Good Prem player, not good enough Internationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Reflects badly of Hodgeson when a senior but ageing player makes his own decision on when to retire from international football. Surely it should have been the manager who should of taken Gerrard quietly to one side after tha World Cup and told him that it was time for the younger players and thank him for his service to his country. No doubt the same will happen with Lampard. Hodgson may well have done just that in private - and let SG make his own announcement to save face after more than 100 caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Reflects badly of Hodgeson when a senior but ageing player makes his own decision on when to retire from international football. Surely it should have been the manager who should of taken Gerrard quietly to one side after tha World Cup and told him that it was time for the younger players and thank him for his service to his country. No doubt the same will happen with Lampard. Not sure it does reflect badly on him. Let's face it there is hardly a host of good players ready to take his role. McLaren did that with Beckham and got it wrong at the time. Hodgson probably called it wrong with Ashley Cole so doesn't want to go telling players they are not needed. I think it should be up to the player. Don't want players who's heart aren't in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Rooney to be the new skipper?, should please everyone.......!! No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Reflects badly of Hodgeson when a senior but ageing player makes his own decision on when to retire from international football. Surely it should have been the manager who should of taken Gerrard quietly to one side after tha World Cup and told him that it was time for the younger players and thank him for his service to his country. No doubt the same will happen with Lampard. Maybe he did, evil twin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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