Go Junior GO Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Watched the football league show and looked like he gave ball away for there goal could someone let me know how he played when he came on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Watched the football league show and looked like he gave ball away for there goal could someone let me know how he played when he came on he's been guilty of giving dangerous balls away alot, thats why he isn't in the starting line up, he needs to cut it out if he wants to get into the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 He needs to cut out the errors if he wants to come on as sub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I would have put waggy on. Hes a safer bet for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb6162 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I would have put waggy on. Hes a safer bet for sure. Waggy had been on the pitch for 5 mins before pack ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Would have gone 5 at the back. If Osbourne was on the bench he would have gone in the back three for me. Ayling moving out to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Amazed we didn't see El Abd, SC likes him when trying to hold onto a lead late on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Watched the football league show and looked like he gave ball away for there goal could someone let me know how he played when he came on Sorry to say it but giving the ball away for the goal was the only thing I can remember him doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 As SC said after the game, usually Pack can be relied upon to help us see out games as he did at Sheff U and even gave us attacking impetus versus COLU. Also played a big part in stifling Orient. But he made a mistake. He'll get it right more times than not, just one of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 As SC said after the game, usually Pack can be relied upon to help us see out games as he did at Sheff U and even gave us attacking impetus versus COLU. Also played a big part in stifling Orient. But he made a mistake. He'll get it right more times than not, just one of those things. I am sorry, but if you see my previous posting in AWFUL you will know that I am not his greatest fan. I listen to every Radio Bristol Commentary on City games and all I hear when he is playing is, ; Pack has given the ball away; and usually in dangerous areas. I think he is the weakest link in this squad and this is the reason that SC doesn't start him very often. IMHO he needs to be replaced with a better holding mid fielder. At that stage of the game with only one goal between Fleetwood and us he should have done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngish Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I am sorry, but if you see my previous posting in AWFUL you will know that I am not his greatest fan. I listen to every Radio Bristol Commentary on City games and all I hear when he is playing is, ; Pack has given the ball away; and usually in dangerous areas. I think he is the weakest link in this squad and this is the reason that SC doesn't start him very often. IMHO he needs to be replaced with a better holding mid fielder. At that stage of the game with only one goal between Fleetwood and us he should have done better. Then you should see him play, that's not fair at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Then you should see him play, that's not fair at all. Exactly. You cannot judge anyone by radio commentary, all you get is a commentator's view and opinion. You have to see players play either on TV or ideally in person to make such a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Then you should see him play, that's not fair at all. i agree with some of whats he's posted he has laspes in consentration and gives the ball away needlessly in dangerous postions, thats why he isn't in the first team, but he isn't the weakest link, 1 man doesn't cost you a game we should defend as a team and sadly this time we couldn't hold, disappoint but I said I'd take a point before the game, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 For me Pack is a pretty Joe Burnell. By pretty I mean he has a good looking technique but flatters to deceive. He's not the worst player I've ever seen not by a long way but I wouldn't have him in the first 11 and he is probably where he should be in this squad which is firmly a back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 When he's on the top of his game he's fantastic, just needs to get some consistency in his game. I think it's quite harsh to place much blame for the third goal on him. He's still only 23, he has plenty of time to progress and is someone that adds a lot of quality to the squad's depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Then you should see him play Why? He's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I am surprised we are considering Pack as a defensive midfielder ,i thought at Chelts he was an attacking play maker and free kick specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I feel that although a mistake on Packs behalf it looks to me that he hasn't had/hasn't heard a shout from a team mate. He readjusted to clear which I don't think he would have done if he was aware of the player behind him. I'll get my tin hat ready for the "he should of been aware" comments.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I am surprised we are considering Pack as a defensive midfielder ,i thought at Chelts he was an attacking play maker and free kick specialists. He was. Said this pre-season he was still getting used to the role (DM/holding midfielder) that he was brought in for. If you say to any Chelts fan that we play him as a defensive player they don't get it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I feel that although a mistake on Packs behalf it looks to me that he hasn't had/hasn't heard a shout from a team mate. He readjusted to clear which I don't think he would have done if he was aware of the player behind him. I'll get my tin hat ready for the "he should of been aware" comments.... I agree actually! Having watched it again he gets dispossessed on the blindside, so without a shout from a teammate it's very difficult to lay much blame at the door of Pack. Even after he is dispossessed the ball is passed on, Dobbie isn't closed down and then hits a quality strike. Very harsh to blame Pack, certainly not the glaring error that some are making out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltonmowbrayred Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Watched the football league show and looked like he gave ball away for there goal could someone let me know how he played when he came on A lot happened after his mistake including a fortunate deflection to the scorer. I'd rather focus on the second goal and the absence of any marking at all. That was the important goal; stop that one, we stop them from upping their effort and we keep their crowd quite, and we would have probably have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I agree actually! Having watched it again he gets dispossessed on the blindside, so without a shout from a teammate it's very difficult to lay much blame at the door of Pack. Even after he is dispossessed the ball is passed on, Dobbie isn't closed down and then hits a quality strike. Very harsh to blame Pack, certainly not the glaring error that some are making out. You may be right but for me he wasn't robust enough either in the attempted header or the subsequent non challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I agree actually! Having watched it again he gets dispossessed on the blindside, so without a shout from a teammate it's very difficult to lay much blame at the door of Pack. Even after he is dispossessed the ball is passed on, Dobbie isn't closed down and then hits a quality strike. Very harsh to blame Pack, certainly not the glaring error that some are making out. It's not a glaring area, but it could of been prevented which is the frustrating thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 He's a squad player, which is exactly how he is being used. He doesn't look an attacking midfielder to me, so with his height and usually reasonable distribution he is best deployed in front of the back four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandare 1966 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Frustrating player great one minute the crap the next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 He signed a two year deal so is OOC in the summer, big season for him as he's playing for a new contract somewhere...I suspect not here given we didn't offer him one in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Have to say, not having seen it live, I had assumed the error was on a par with some of our classic defending of last year. It was nowhere near that. They had an element of luck with the first and third goals. We got the initial block in both times, and just bad luck the rebound has gone straight to their player. In both cases they have then taken full advantage of the football gods with smashing finishes. If they had been our goals we would have praised the finish. More frustrated by the second to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Pepper Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 In hindsight Pack should have hooked the ball away but Smith should have closed down quicker for 1st goal as should Elliott on the 2nd not to mention Dels poor marking. Unfair to blame Pack imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 ...bit harsh imho. The lad was on just one minute. We never even had possession. The ball pinged off Little's head and Pack was beaten on his blind side to the ball by another player with more momentum. Plus the keeper was allowed to bring the ball way out of his box, on the right side and swing in a high diagonal cross. If we hadn't been sitting deep, and having everyone in our own half, we could have closed the keeper down and not allowed that initial ball that caused all the problems in the first place. I'd be more concerned with their second goal...a free header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 he's been guilty of giving dangerous balls away alot, thats why he isn't in the starting line up, he needs to cut it out if he wants to get into the teamFair to say taking Agard off for pack at that juncture may in hindsight-I hope-be seen as a mistake by SC...not any point to it bar to kill 30 seconds off the clock..backfired.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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