Ska Junkie Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 I don't agree with you but let's leave it there. Constantly saying I'm 'incorrect' does not make it fact. You are ignoring the fact that the stadium is currently all-seater which changes the criteria AFAIK. I believe I'm right but this is now boring people. We'll, as I've said multiple times, wait and see what happens IF they convert and if they get promoted. If I'm proven to be wrong, I am man enough to admit it but, in this case, I don't believe I am. Thanks for the debate but we're going round in circles which is a waste of everyone's' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 @Blagdon red is it possible to expand on what will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted January 19, 2018 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 20 hours ago, JulieH said: This subject always provides lots of opinions and observations from fans, and clubs alike. i don’t know enough unfortunately about rail seats and their various pros and cons . However on visiting Shrewsbury ground with rovers recently I am aware they have an agreed section of their end stand for safe standing I am not sure of the exact numbers that are allowed to stand there but I am sure the local sag agreed to it . Perhaps it might be something blagdon red knows more about? I have asked that their football officer and their safety officer keeps me up to date with pros and cons of this area. I am keen to see how it all works . Yeah, Shrewsbury's SAG agreed to it, as will SAGs elsewhere if they understand how it enhances safety. I wouldn't expect any opposition from our SAG if govt policy changed and rail seats were allowed at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 This thread got derailed a little by the rail seat debate. Still it's all linked. Yeah, some good arguments to expand it for sure... A key argument being the 7,800 stood at Manchester without issue. I guess on this a key point being... Atmosphere? Not sure the SAG terribly bothered. Commerce? Well there would be a 10 pct reduction in capacity in expanded area as per current S82, so would be open to question. Reduce conflict between standing fans and stewards...this could have some merit but equally SAG may insist it is enforced anyway in non current S82 areas. I hope it can get expanded though. Wonder what would convicte the SAG/Storr however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: This thread got derailed a little by the rail seat debate. Still it's all linked. Yeah, some good arguments to expand it for sure... A key argument being the 7,800 stood at Manchester without issue. I guess on this a key point being... Atmosphere? Not sure the SAG terribly bothered. Commerce? Well there would be a 10 pct reduction in capacity in expanded area as per current S82, so would be open to question. Reduce conflict between standing fans and stewards...this could have some merit but equally SAG may insist it is enforced anyway in non current S82 areas. I hope it can get expanded though. Wonder what would convicte the SAG/Storr however. The only problem with expanding the singing section (which is brilliant by the way), is current season ticket holders would need to move. Is this fair? Where could they go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: The only problem with expanding the singing section (which is brilliant by the way), is current season ticket holders would need to move. Is this fair? Where could they go? I suspect the majority of people moving into the expanded S82 would already be in the SS, so just move down the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: The only problem with expanding the singing section (which is brilliant by the way), is current season ticket holders would need to move. Is this fair? Where could they go? Yeah fair point. I think a decent number of them have singing section inclinations though...a fair few in adjoining blocks probably would be quite pro...actually @Welcome To The Jungle put it better than me. No easy answers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl1 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: The only problem with expanding the singing section (which is brilliant by the way), is current season ticket holders would need to move. Is this fair? Where could they go? I’m in the block directly to the left of the singing section. I’m all in favour of expanding section 82 into our block S24. The vast majority of us in there are ‘singers’ anyway. The only problem I can see is the standing rule. A few of S24 patrons would struggle to stand, and these would no doubt move. I would estimate the vast majority of people would embrace the expansion. It certainly needs it, should the club want to improve the match day atmosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTIDhc Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 With an increase in capacity it would also mean an increase in resources required from S82. Just an idea that possibly a certain % of ticket sales in that area go towards the funding of new flags, banners, displays etc. Would really show that the club are backing the movement and not just appeasing the singing lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Apologies if this has been answered a dozen times but how tricky would it be to locate away fans into part of the Lansdown and give the Atyeo back to the so called s82? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I have no objection to the expansion of s82 in principal, but people shouldn’t be forced out of their seats. I’m not sure I see it happening until the FA/EFL and Government get off their fat asses and sanction rail seating across the league. The trial at Shrewsbury is a joke. I see no reason why a trial was necessary. Ffs the largest football end in Europe, the south stand at Dortmund, has had rail seating without a hitch for years. 25,000 people in an end proves its safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 17/01/2018 at 21:10, bris red said: Does make you wonder if plenty do prefer to stand then why does NO other group in the south stand even attempt to join in with S82.. you'd like to have thought it would have organically spread across the stand but the rest of the South stand dont seem to want anything to do with it.. where are all these hoarders of new fans wanting to stand coming from? Im all for standing btw.. its the only way i can watch live football, its just after years of following this club in all seater stadiums i have come to accept as a fan base we just dont seem to like to stand en masse.. They would be forcibly removed for persistent standing and ou of courtesy for others around who ish to sit, would not want to impede their view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 just an idea , section 82 take whole of Atyeo, room to expand, those who want to stand, therefore can , im sure the players would like a see of red behind the goal move the away fans to the top of the upper landsdown, out of the way able to make less of an impact behind the goal, my kids wouldnt go up there as they dont like being so high up ! then move the family section to the south stand ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I suspect the majority of people moving into the expanded S82 would already be in the SS, so just move down the stand. "Just move down the stand" sounds easy but if you sit with a load of mates or family, may not be. Supporters have had those seats since the stand opened. No problem with this as long as no one is FORCED to move. Oh and for clarification, I am further over in the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, 054123 said: They would be forcibly removed for persistent standing and ou of courtesy for others around who ish to sit, would not want to impede their view. Correct. On the moving argument...Atyeo ST holders all got dispersed when ground redeveloped. Dispersed around the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderarmy23 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO Hi Matt, is there any plans or have any talks taken place about expanding the singing section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 In a barely relevant point, wouldn't it be good to have the South Stand renamed to the East End, or alternatively for the purists, the Bristol South End? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singingsuperstar Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 S24 ROW 24 - SS end, we already expanding the section. Great voices all around me, the appreciation of Mr Stroud on Saturday from those behind me priceless!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Would be good to know what @Harry and @James_ as current S82 Reps/Bigwigs on here think of the idea. i'm sure they would have plenty of tips, expertise etc as to how to further push the idea of expanding S82, how best to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Not wishing to interrupt this debate but as the singers are present. I like the rolling song which seems to be we all hate the......... but from the other end of the stand I can't make out what. It's beginning to irritate now. Anyone help. It's a really good effort by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singingsuperstar Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, fatman said: Not wishing to interrupt this debate but as the singers are present. I like the rolling song which seems to be we all hate the......... but from the other end of the stand I can't make out what. It's beginning to irritate now. Anyone help. It's a really good effort by the way. We all hate Gas Scum? Repeat For 17 years (f off) for 17 years (f off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, Singingsuperstar said: We all hate Gas Scum? Repeat For 17 years (f off) for 17 years (f off) I'm in the Dolman, but from there it sounds like: We all hate Gas Scum (Repeat) 17 years on (f off) (x4) 17 years on (f off) Or even just 17 years (f off) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Parsons Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 On 1/29/2018 at 20:02, Martin89 said: @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO Hi Matt, is there any plans or have any talks taken place about expanding the singing section? Hi @Martin89, a number have fans have spoken to me about it along with proposing some interesting suggestions regards how the expansion could work. Im in the process of compiling all fan feedback and will be sitting down with the stadium team to discuss all feedback in the next few weeks. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 @Ska Junkie I've come to this a bit late, and without wanting to restart things, I was under the impression that an area with rail seats installed would be deemed unusable under current rules, but nothing about replacing them. This is from my foggy and unreliable memory of what was said when we had a small section of rail seats in the Atyeo as a display prior to promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 If S82 can’t expand to the sides,I suggest it expands upwards by putting some red and white tents up on the roof,or would that look naff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: @Ska Junkie I've come to this a bit late, and without wanting to restart things, I was under the impression that an area with rail seats installed would be deemed unusable under current rules, but nothing about replacing them. This is from my foggy and unreliable memory of what was said when we had a small section of rail seats in the Atyeo as a display prior to promotion. No problem James, that's how I understood it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 Was thinking about atmosphere earlier and then I remembered this thread, so I thought I would re-visit it/give it a bump. Is there any movement on this? Have there been any positive (or even preliminary discussions) to report/feed back on. @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Parsons Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 19 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Was thinking about atmosphere earlier and then I remembered this thread, so I thought I would re-visit it/give it a bump. Is there any movement on this? Have there been any positive (or even preliminary discussions) to report/feed back on. @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO Not at the moment as it will affect the sight-lines of fans in neighboring blocks. As and when the legislation around safe standing changes, the stadium team would consider options then. As a club, we were one of the first to publicly support safe standing when we recently backed the campaign that happened at the start of the summer. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Matt Parsons BCFCSLO said: Not at the moment as it will affect the sight-lines of fans in neighboring blocks. As and when the legislation around safe standing changes, the stadium team would consider options then. As a club, we were one of the first to publicly support safe standing when we recently backed the campaign that happened at the start of the summer. Matt Thanks for you/the club looking into it Matt. I still think there's the demand personally- only have to look on a matchday at why stewards check tickets at the blocks to enter the Singing Section/S82 but as you say neighbouring blocks and the sight-lines is an issue- so while disappointing I do get it. Yeah true enough- I also recall in 2013/14 we were quite keen on putting in rail seating, but clearly the legislation wasn't (as it still isn't) there at this stage. The club also visibly supporting safe standing is also a positive. To me though, the likelihood remains that hamstrung though we are and how it will need to remain, there's more demand for an expansion to the singing section than numbers allow. In short, demand outstrips supply (IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 This just goes to show there was no thought process for these type of fans when the redevelopment was done. Hence being moved pillar to post, until the half solution there is now. The area will never expand, even if safe standing does come in they are very unlikely to throw the back 15 rows of the south stand out of their season ticket seats. Remember only a few years ago at the start of being in the atyeo, the club were trying to blame the group for anything that happened in that stand. When all the lads wanted to do was wave flags etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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