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Go up ? Right now I’d be happy to see us heading towards next season without the prospect of a serious relegation fight and as it stands that looks more likely without Manning than with him

And looking a bit further past that.... Doesnt matter does it ..... As for your wet attempt at sarcasm I am confident I’ve seen more relegations than you have , so yes it does matter

What let him spend the nest egg ? Based on what evidence exactly As for the last sentence that sums up some of our fans ‘If hes crap why bother replacing him because we are likely to replace him with crap’ Mind Boggling

It’s not ‘all that matters’ though , is it

Let’s ignore what the clueless spouted You don’t think we’ve regressed since he came in ? Seriously ? Lets move on ..... and let him do what LJ did and carve out the best bits of the squad (Manual p43 para 4) whilst he tinkers with his vision

Now we have a bloke ‘Ray from Kingswood ‘ on RB who doesn’t go very often but normally listens on radio , who says fans should be more positive and give LM time as he needs new signings Its been like some alternative comedy spoof post match

Ed Hadwin is a complete plumb fml

Hadwin claiming that he’s seen evidence that we are getting better as a side and talking about player overhaul in the summer What a load of b******

He seemed really triggered Bizarre

The reality is , in facts , and if we open our eyes and watch , that since his arrival we have gone gradually backwards and backwards These players aren’t having him Im not sure there’s any evidence , at all , to justify supporting him in the summer as it stands

Ismael sacked by Watford Thats a shock

I have just a mild hunch that Warnock and LM May have different ideas in a few areas ! I like NW and over the years would have liked to see what he could do here , but I’m not sure I can think of many working relationships less likely to work

I know jealousy is a bad trait , but

Have a ️ Ohhhhh COD you Beautyyyyyyy

Man Ure and Ipswich winning isn’t a great start to the afternoon is it

Agreed Silv Entertainment wise I look at Man City and I enjoy watching them to a large degree , but I actually enjoy watching them not because of the playing ethos and style but more so because of the quite brilliant ability and individual moments that win them the game Yes , their ethos has proved successful but I’d suggest that it’s been successful more so because of the individual brilliance of some incredible players I know I am talking Man City but the overall principle and pros and cons are the same To have a degree of control and possession in the first two thirds is not a massive ask or task With a relatively slow , controlled progression , opening up the opposition in the final third certainly is Ipswich are far more entertaining to watch (Grrrrrr) than we are ever likely to be , and a lot easier to recruit for and continue

I think Dave , ( and it’s a very limited general over view without the depth of current knowledge or understanding as some on here) Firstly I think the levels vary In simple terms despite playing against similar generally quality opposition Premier League Players I would suggest not only the best in terms of coping with the technical possession / control ethos, but also adaptable enough and athletic enough to be adaptable to all sorts of styles From that point ‘downwards’ I think that it becomes less easy to find players so adaptable , and in particular to find the required quality players for a technical / control ethos - At our level and certainly below it appears that you have to accept some compromises Technically good but not totally physically robust , or athletic etc Id agree good players can adapt , the better (level) they are , as a general rule , the more adaptable I think it’s a playing ethos that puts real focus not only the HC but on the quality of the recruitment team because IMO its the ethos that takes you down the ‘narrowest’ route. My gut feel at this level is that it’s far more realistic (And cheaper) for us to recruit ‘good players’ adaptable to a number of other styles and MOP than it is for us to recruit ‘good players’ for a possession / control / technical ethos. if that makes sense I think we are heading down a ‘difficult’ choice of route where success is dependent on an excellent coaching team and an really excellent recruitment team. And where it is easy for things to unravel

(My last) Upper Crust Jon told fans that realising he’d been let down , had told Brian Gavin that he ‘Was Toast’ and explained that ‘after everything it was the yeast he could do’

And on the playing ethos Are we not just about to put our foot down on the accelerator as we turn left in terms of our playing philosophy ie Recruitment Because , if we continue with LM (As I absolutely believe they will) then you absolutely have to back him and his playing philosophy in terms of the profile of players in You surely cannot contemplate recruiting without concentrating on his key wants in player profiles and then expect him to be successful (Actually this Club probably could) But with any degree of sense , if they believe he’s worth running with then I’d expect recruitment to reflect that So next season we have a mix of players some specifically recruited for the new playing ethos , some possibly adaptable, some not suitable ....... Where do you go then if you bale out on Manning ? Continue coach recruitment and player recruitment to this new philosophy And every window LM stays we will be assembling players largely suited to a particular style and having followed that route you are committed to it for the foreseeable few years I’d suggest A significant crossroads for us I’d suggest , with implications that will result , positive or negative , far beyond LM and his tenure here

But Brian thought he had a job for loaf , took his eye off the Boule though

The playing philosophy , and it appears one he’s totally focused on , is a big concern for me , and I agree with you regarding the quality of players , and even then he has to be an excellent coach of this style , not ok , excellent , in terms of knowledge and delivery on the grass , (Besides the man management , in game management , etc etc as a head man) to make it successful I would suggest that it’s the hardest , and most complicated playing philosophy to coach And For success , the best ? For entertainment the best ?

Might leave Brian a bit sour dough

It is a sensible suggestion @Fuber Ex City trader so no mug , Academy background and decent amount of managing at this level too You would think he has a decent experience in key areas and a good chance of a decent , sensible perspective

Absolutely , for me , the current biggest elephant in the room