CyderInACan Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Assuming we don't sign a new front-man who goes straight into the starting XI tmrw, it seems that it's a straight choice between the in-form local midfielder-turned-striker and our Swedish enigma to partner or drop off our record signing Diédhiou against Barnsley. No doubt young Bobby has been flames pre-season against mainly nondescript opposition but of course you can only score against what's put in front of you. Gustav has also been in fine form but in "proper" football and has gone to Tenerife, returned to BS3 and notched a brace to help us win silverware in Gloucestershire the other week. So the dilemma is, who do you pick? The actual-real-striker or the obviously-skilful-but-untested-at-any-real-level-as-a-striker academy product? And why? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Ah what the hell, play em both! Football should become a far more attacking game ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 bobby at the moment, he's earnt a chance with his pre-season form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Ah what the hell, play em both! Football should become a far more attacking game ... A couple of fullbacks, a centre half, 2 half backs, 2 inside forwards 2 wingers and a centre forward - that should do the trick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: bobby at the moment, he's earnt a chance with his pre-season form But he's not that experienced in a front two whereas Gustav is. Id definitely play Reid but as an attacking midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Assuming we don't sign a new front-man who goes straight into the starting XI tmrw, it seems that it's a straight choice between the in-form local midfielder-turned-striker and our Swedish enigma to partner or drop off our record signing Diédhiou against Barnsley. No doubt young Bobby has been flames pre-season against mainly nondescript opposition but of course you can only score against what's put in front of you. Gustav has also been in fine form but in "proper" football and has gone to Tenerife, returned to BS3 and notched a brace to help us win silverware in Gloucestershire the other week. So the dilemma is, who do you pick? The actual-real-striker or the obviously-skilful-but-untested-at-any-real-level-as-a-striker academy product? And why? COYR Gustav-brought here as a striker and if he doesn't get in the eleven under current circumstances he never will. Give him a chance,or move him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: But he's not that experienced in a front two whereas Gustav is. Id definitely play Reid but as an attacking midfielder. I'd start him up top Robbo, then if it isn't working drop him into the attacking midfield role, He'll never get experience otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bobby to start, Gus to come on after 60-70 minutes for either BR or Fam. Unless he's already on his way back to Sweden, I see no reason not to give Engvall a chance, but similarly Bobby is the man in possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Needs to be Bobby, we lost a lot of movement/zip when he went off against FC Twente (I know its only a friendly but it seemed to affect the whole team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 58 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: Gustav-brought here as a striker and if he doesn't get in the eleven under current circumstances he never will. Give him a chance,or move him on. I'd say Famara (having not seen him play) has the build of the lone gunman premiership striker for the away games. For tomorrow I think it depends on how we'll best get through the Barnsley defence. They'll defend in numbers and look to try to break quickly. I'm no @spudski (come back, I enjoyed your posts), but an on form Booby Reid might be the best option. Saying that I'd like to see Engvall given a decent go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Assuming LJ is going to play the same way as he has all pre-season, then Bobby Reid is in possession of the shirt to partner Famara Diedhiou. I don't think it will be as an out and out striker, but nor is it a no10 / in the hole either. Gustav Engvall is hopefully the go-to man on the bench, and hopefully putting the pressure on BR and FD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bobby Reid seems the sensible choice but my gut feeling says give Engvall a go and see what he does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bobby. Engvall on the bench and to start versus Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 4, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Was it the day before the first game that Tammy signed last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bobby cause he's 10/1 to score first and i have a tenner on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 We will (almost certainly) play a sort of 442 , the way we finished last year. Most of the team picks itself, and if Reid doesn't get a start after the pre season he's had then what's the point. I really want Engval to get a run, but Bobby's been on firs and his confidence must be high. I don't care that we've played no-one of note Twente apart, he's scored. Also he can come off of FD to help MF a little and will close down , a bit like Taylor did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWred Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Given Reid's form of pre-season I cannot see Johnson going with Engvall and I also cannot see him only going 1 up top at home to Barnsley. Reid to start for me, though sooner rather than later I think Engvall needs to be given a proper chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 I think Bobby should start but I think it's important to realise that if he starts he won't be playing as an out and out striker alongside Famara. For him it's more about dropping between the defence and midfield and linking in Brownhill and Paterson. So that they can create those triangles of patterns of play with the overlap of Pisano and Bryan. I'd like to see Engval getting on depending on how game is panning out but expect he would be pushed further forward than Bobby. They are likely to play different roles to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reid's Mate Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bobby has to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 It matters little. Either can start and the other can replace him for the second half if it isn't working. Bobby has earned a start, but what's the point of paying Gustav if he's not worth picking. Give em both a chance and see who shines more brightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.V.F Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Judging by team selection throughout pre-season it looks as though Bobby will get the nod over Gus. Personally, I'd really like to see Gus given a decent run of, say 5-10 games or so to show what he can do.... not sure this will happen though barring it being forced by injuries and lack of incoming players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Assuming its a 4-4-2, time to start with Gustav I think - he is the recognised striker and he's either going to make it in this league or he isn't. It's a confidence game and with the shortage of fit strikers he'd have to think he's worth the start - what further impact on his thinking to then not get the nod. Opening day home matches are always intense, I would keep Bobby on the bench and make use of his pace later in the game - I know he has had a flyer in pre season and I agree you can only score against what is put in front of you, but the overall quality of the opposition faced has to be remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Start with someone who is actually a forward and has a record of scoring goals at a reasonable level. Engvall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Engvall. With the injury list as it is if he doesn't get a chance now he never will. Reid isn't a forward and scoring against weak opposition in preseason is nice but not indicative that it will work in the Championship. Engvall and Diédhiou could be a real partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said: I'd say Famara (having not seen him play) has the build of the lone gunman premiership striker for the away games. For tomorrow I think it depends on how we'll best get through the Barnsley defence. They'll defend in numbers and look to try to break quickly. I'm no @spudski (come back, I enjoyed your posts), but an on form Booby Reid might be the best option. Saying that I'd like to see Engvall given a decent go. Come back Spudski indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 I like Enkvall. His effort v Hull last season stays in my mind and showed how good he could be. But Reid has gradually gained confidence playing against improving opposition each game and I believe he has found the knack of putting the ball in the back of the net. He has the fitness to buzz around Diedhiou and make those difficult to stop runs into the oppositions penalty area. Away to Brighton at the end of last season he got into their penalty area and then could be seen working his butt off to get back into ours to defend. We also need Brownhill to be in central midfield so that he can make some bombing runs forward to support the front two and also the wide guys, Patterson and O'Dowda getting down the flanks. Thats why Pack has to play in that central defensive role in case of a breakaway. I would still play Flint alongside Wright. Pretty easy being a footy manager init. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: It matters little. Either can start and the other can replace him for the second half if it isn't working. Bobby has earned a start, but what's the point of paying Gustav if he's not worth picking. Give em both a chance and see who shines more brightly. All we a saying , is give Gus a chance . All we are saying , is give Gus a chance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 After that pre-season it has to be Bobby. He's earned the right to have a go. If he doesn't do it then Gus can have a try. Anything else sends the wrong message to Bobby. You may argue that Bobby got a chance in pre-season and that Gus didn't (and he did well with the opportunity that he did have) but somebody has to start and that will have been based on training and past performances. The fact that Engvall deserves a chance has no bearing on the fact that Reid has excelled in pre-season and should be rewarded with the chance to play in league games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scare_Man Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Flagon said: I think Bobby should start but I think it's important to realise that if he starts he won't be playing as an out and out striker alongside Famara. For him it's more about dropping between the defence and midfield and linking in Brownhill and Paterson. So that they can create those triangles of patterns of play with the overlap of Pisano and Bryan. I'd like to see Engval getting on depending on how game is panning out but expect he would be pushed further forward than Bobby. They are likely to play different roles to each other. This is exactly how I see it happening tomorrow too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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