Shtanley Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 Hello gang, third sit down interview just went out, this time with City legend Louis Carey. We talk through his entire career from a schoolboy all the way to where he is now. Hope you all enjoy and cheers for the feedback and nice comments on the previous two. Follow the podcast on twitter or facebook if you have it (@osibpodcast) Subscribe to us on iTunes (The episode will appear when you do) Listen via Libsyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Hello gang, third sit down interview just went out, this time with City legend Louis Carey. We talk through his entire career from a schoolboy all the way to where he is now. Hope you all enjoy and cheers for the feedback and nice comments on the previous two. Follow the podcast on twitter or facebook if you have it (@osibpodcast) Subscribe to us on iTunes (The episode will appear when you do) Listen via Libsyn Two in quick succession?? You’re spoiling us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 Good insight into LCs City career, a really enjoyable listen, if a little overlong. Very diplomatic regarding previous mangers he’d played for.His fascinating opinion on SoD was a highlight for me. It seems it was lack of people skills were an issue but that his coaching abilities were top notch and that given more time would have been successful. Well worth listening to if you have the spare time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 Only ever heard Louis talk with honesty, passion and pride about his career and BCFC. Sounds like a very self moderated and humble guy these days. Another great podcast in the series. Been a fascinating listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aipearcey Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Good insight into LCs City career, a really enjoyable listen, if a little overlong. Very diplomatic regarding previous mangers he’d played for.His fascinating opinion on SoD was a highlight for me. It seems it was lack of people skills were an issue but that his coaching abilities were top notch and that given more time would have been successful. Well worth listening to if you have the spare time. I Know I will probably get slated for this and I can’t defend the results he got but, I honestly think he played a massive part in where we are today and started(some may argue mcguiness did with cutting the wage bill) the rebuild signing a lot of the players from out promotion season who have gone on to be at least championship standard players. I remember him saying once that if he were to run a football club, he would do it in the way Bristol city were going to (around the time they released “the five pillars”) and that he may be victim to the process but the club will eventually get to where they want to be if they stick to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Aipearcey said: I Know I will probably get slated for this and I can’t defend the results he got but, I honestly think he played a massive part in where we are today and started(some may argue mcguiness did with cutting the wage bill) the rebuild signing a lot of the players from out promotion season who have gone on to be at least championship standard players. I remember him saying once that if he were to run a football club, he would do it in the way Bristol city were going to (around the time they released “the five pillars”) and that he may be victim to the process but the club will eventually get to where they want to be if they stick to it. I think many of us would agree he played an important part in the early stages of transforming the club. Would have been better suited to a strategic role. Despite his coaching skills his downbeat public persona was dragging morale down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 If you think about LJ had a very depressing start to his managerial career at AG and if we’re not for SL sticking by him he’d have been sacked at any other club. In Sods situation it was undoubtedly his lack of people skills that cost him his job despite him having a very similar set of results as LJ did later on. We all know that LJ is an excellent communicator and no doubt that stood him in good stead with SL and that faith in LJ has subsequently paid off.......but who knows if SoD have been given the same support that he wouldn’t have done as well as LJ has? Anyhow it’s all academic now....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 50 minutes in, so just ending the Danny Wilson era. What a fantastic interview. Really like Carey’s honesty, and in particular that he thought Ward was poorly treated, and that Benny would have been great in charge of development. Looking forward to the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Queen Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 Really enjoyed listening to this, thank you DQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, chinapig said: I think many of us would agree he played an important part in the early stages of transforming the club. Would have been better suited to a strategic role. Despite his coaching skills his downbeat public persona was dragging morale down. Was it? Do you mean morale amongst the fans? I have only read positive things from ex players of his, have you heard differently? He definitely had a major part to play in where we are today IMO. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Shtanley said: Hello gang, third sit down interview just went out, this time with City legend Louis Carey. We talk through his entire career from a schoolboy all the way to where he is now. Hope you all enjoy and cheers for the feedback and nice comments on the previous two. Follow the podcast on twitter or facebook if you have it (@osibpodcast) Subscribe to us on iTunes (The episode will appear when you do) Listen via Libsyn Fair play to you mate, the podcast is getting better by the episode imo. You're a thoughtful and insigthful interviewer asking questions that we all would. Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Simon79 said: Was it? Do you mean morale amongst the fans? I have only read positive things from ex players of his, have you heard differently? He definitely had a major part to play in where we are today IMO. COYR Yes, the fans as you say. And I did say he played a major role. It's not recognised enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 SOD certainly had a part to play in the formative stages of the “new way” of BCFC, however let’s not forget just how woeful we were under his tenure and there’s every chance that we could have found ourselves in League 2, had he not been replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, chinapig said: Yes, the fans as you say. And I did say he played a major role. It's not recognised enough. Totally agree. Some fans like someone who is good in front of the camera etc I suppose. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claverham_Red Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Will listen at some point this week. Out of interest, does LC mention what he's up to recently? Last I recall he was a youth team coach at Southampton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted July 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Clevedon_Red said: Will listen at some point this week. Out of interest, does LC mention what he's up to recently? Last I recall he was a youth team coach at Southampton? Yeah coaching for u16-u18s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 16 hours ago, Robbored said: If you think about LJ had a very depressing start to his managerial career at AG and if we’re not for SL sticking by him he’d have been sacked at any other club. In Sods situation it was undoubtedly his lack of people skills that cost him his job despite him having a very similar set of results as LJ did later on. We all know that LJ is an excellent communicator and no doubt that stood him in good stead with SL and that faith in LJ has subsequently paid off.......but who knows if SoD have been given the same support that he wouldn’t have done as well as LJ has? Anyhow it’s all academic now....... His first 25-30 odd games averaged out at around top 8 form. Very depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WirralRobin Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Brilliant as always @Shtanley - thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Another great listen, well done fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fleuriot Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 A great listen. Also disagree that it's over long. What I like about these is that it does feel like a relaxed chat rather than an attempt to have a tight fifteen minute interview that we'd get on mainstream media and barely scratches the surface. Keep them coming please. Only addition: would be really interested to hear from these people talking through their all time personal City XIs. Although maybe that could be another series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Oh , a podcast, from the podcast guy, nod. I remember being super excited when Sean O'Driscoll joined, and you could hear Carey light up when he spoke about his coaching. What I found interesting was how much emphasis he placed on having an assistant manager or whatever to fill in the gaps that a manager has. He sounds like he's learned a lot from the managers he's played for and will put that into use in the future. Another thing is having a generally settled group of players and them getting on and that making such a big difference to a team. You can get new players to adapt to a culture that way, instead of acting out. What we're doing at the moment with the consistency of culture is clearly paying dividends. Louis from his own words clearly wasn't a locker room leader in the way where he could shape the culture to be positive and professional. He was definitely a follower of whatever was going on around him. And that comes from the change in managers, the change in players being brought in and having to deal with that. Everyone here was either brought in by LJ, or could have been gotten rid of by now. And the squad looks very united because of that. Feels like Carey will be our manager one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Prinny said: Oh , a podcast, from the podcast guy, nod. I remember being super excited when Sean O'Driscoll joined, and you could hear Carey light up when he spoke about his coaching. What I found interesting was how much emphasis he placed on having an assistant manager or whatever to fill in the gaps that a manager has. He sounds like he's learned a lot from the managers he's played for and will put that into use in the future. Another thing is having a generally settled group of players and them getting on and that making such a big difference to a team. You can get new players to adapt to a culture that way, instead of acting out. What we're doing at the moment with the consistency of culture is clearly paying dividends. Louis from his own words clearly wasn't a locker room leader in the way where he could shape the culture to be positive and professional. He was definitely a follower of whatever was going on around him. And that comes from the change in managers, the change in players being brought in and having to deal with that. Everyone here was either brought in by LJ, or could have been gotten rid of by now. And the squad looks very united because of that. Feels like Carey will be our manager one day. Was a big fan of Louis for many years as a player. Stayed on the fence towards the end with rumours of being a leader of dressing room disquiet. My read is he’s not a fan of GJ from that interview. Harder to tell re Lee. Personally think if he had the brains or character he’d be nearer than Saints U16s by now. I like Louis but let’s move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 I enjoyed the interview/chat very much - so thanks to Shtanley, you ask the questions we would all like to ask. I'd love to hear a similar chat with Cotts and for you to ask him what really happened during that summer recruitment following promotion......don't think he'd want to talk about it though sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshPrinceofBristol Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 You the man Stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre_The_Giant Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 The thing with O’Driscoll was that he didn’t live in the moment. Nobody wants to hear about five pillars and cosmic strategies for the future when you’re 23rd in League One losing game after game. The worst manager I’ve seen down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-mat Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Dunc said: Was a big fan of Louis for many years as a player. Stayed on the fence towards the end with rumours of being a leader of dressing room disquiet. My read is he’s not a fan of GJ from that interview. Harder to tell re Lee. Personally think if he had the brains or character he’d be nearer than Saints U16s by now. I like Louis but let’s move on Yeah coaching one of the most important age groups at arguably one the best academies in Britain, if not Europe, is a sure sign Louis lacks brains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 13/07/2019 at 08:57, Shtanley said: Hello gang, third sit down interview just went out, this time with City legend Louis Carey. We talk through his entire career from a schoolboy all the way to where he is now. Hope you all enjoy and cheers for the feedback and nice comments on the previous two. Follow the podcast on twitter or facebook if you have it (@osibpodcast) Subscribe to us on iTunes (The episode will appear when you do) Listen via Libsyn Really good interviews @Shtanley, certainly get the interviewee comfortable and happy to talk. I would echo @Tom Fleuriot comment about an individuals best City 11. I did chuckle at the 3000 plus at Mansfield in the away end. @Code Red you may find Cotts maybe a little more open about his time at City, especially as we’re not paying him anymore. A really good interview would be Mrs Dolman if that could be arranged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Crikey. Haven't finished the GJ one yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 A great interview. Thoroughly enjoyable. And what an intelligent, pleasant bloke Louis is. Thanks for your efforts Stan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Prinny said: Oh , a podcast, from the podcast guy, nod. I remember being super excited when Sean O'Driscoll joined, and you could hear Carey light up when he spoke about his coaching. What I found interesting was how much emphasis he placed on having an assistant manager or whatever to fill in the gaps that a manager has. He sounds like he's learned a lot from the managers he's played for and will put that into use in the future. Another thing is having a generally settled group of players and them getting on and that making such a big difference to a team. You can get new players to adapt to a culture that way, instead of acting out. What we're doing at the moment with the consistency of culture is clearly paying dividends. Louis from his own words clearly wasn't a locker room leader in the way where he could shape the culture to be positive and professional. He was definitely a follower of whatever was going on around him. And that comes from the change in managers, the change in players being brought in and having to deal with that. Everyone here was either brought in by LJ, or could have been gotten rid of by now. And the squad looks very united because of that. Feels like Carey will be our manager one day. I hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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