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Matt Parsons

SUPPORTER LIAISON UPDATE

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4 minutes ago, phantom said:

Should have introduced himself by now

But are we really surprised?

He may be acting as Matts assistant now - so rather busy

Pre season n all that , minibuses to refuel , Players bbqs to be cleaned 

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1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said:

Did not Ashtray say it was an important role?

Nah Tommy

He said the supporters role was important 

He missed out on any mention of liason

 

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8 hours ago, phantom said:

Should have introduced himself by now

But are we really surprised?

Maybe communication isn’t his thing 😀

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On 24/07/2019 at 21:34, RedM said:

Maybe communication isn’t his thing 😀

Either that or he’s away on holiday.

I mean, the two weeks leading into the new season is always a quiet time regarding supporter queries isn’t it.

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In answer to some of the above, okay I was half joking but on the face of it,unlike Matt Parsons, he didn’t apply for this job. He has another full time role, just like Adam Baker and Rachel Lemar did, so realistically how much time can he give to this role, a role thrust upon him, which he most likely doesn’t want or has no interest in either.

But hey, the club has a SLO. Tick.

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Final point.

I notice that Derby- a club I undoubtedly have criticised for stadium and especially Rooney shenanigans- have not just one SLO but a team of Matchday SLO.

I wait to be corrected but do we have similar?

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Dunno how much they respond on Twitter though, granted.

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I’ve had a very nice and prompt response from the SLO regarding musical instruments at the KCOM this weekend.

Unfortunately this was from the Hull City SLO and all musical instruments, including drums, are not allowed 💩

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4 hours ago, Pieman said:

I’ve had a very nice and prompt response from the SLO regarding musical instruments at the KCOM this weekend.

Unfortunately this was from the Hull City SLO and all musical instruments, including drums, are not allowed 💩

FWIW, I hate musical instruments at footy. Just sing at a higher volume if you need more noise. 

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13 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

We are doing fine without a SLO as are other supporter groups. The club should fund The Supporters Club & Trust with the money.

Dunno about that. If done right.

Then again...

This new one at least in terms of what we can visually see appears to be worse than latter day non liaising (on here) Liaison Officer Matt Parsons- and that's saying something!

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You're not wrong.

Dynamic on Twitter ir appears he is not! Existent on here, he almost certainly is not!

Again he could be super efficient by email, phone and on matchday and fighting the fans corner behind the scenes- more than one way to measure it...

However, find it quite an unlikely scenario, unicorn worthy probably.

On a fundamental level, if he doesn't fight the fans corner at various times, then may as well scrap the post and yeah put the cash towards a supporters group!

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I don’t know why people are surprised, I’ve said it before it obvious there is now a clear indication that club officials are not to post on here anymore.

Secondly, this isn’t the guys primary job and I doubt he even wanted it. He isn’t a full time SLO, Matt was the clubs first full time SLO and his role obviously morphed into something else. 

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Personally I found the role of SLO pretty ineffective. A lone voice representing the fans amongst the bureaucracy within AG failed to deliver anything of substance.

To me the SC&T are the real fans representatives. It was they that fought our cause of the outrageous ticket price increases the club were planning.

Give the salary of the SLO to them to use as they see appropriate.

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10 hours ago, Pieman said:

I’ve had a very nice and prompt response from the SLO regarding musical instruments at the KCOM this weekend.

Unfortunately this was from the Hull City SLO and all musical instruments, including drums, are not allowed 💩

I emailed him about kids now being charged on the park and ride , no response.   Bit rude really. 

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54 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

I don’t know why people are surprised, I’ve said it before it obvious there is now a clear indication that club officials are not to post on here anymore.

Secondly, this isn’t the guys primary job and I doubt he even wanted it. He isn’t a full time SLO, Matt was the clubs first full time SLO and his role obviously morphed into something else. 

You are right, you have said it and indeed this is how it's playing out.

Interested why you think this might be the case? I think it's healthy for strong engagement between club and fans, lively questioning..

Clearly the club disagree.

That's on the club, that 2nd bit. Foisted on him, half a role.

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17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

You are right, you have said it and indeed this is how it's playing out.

Interested why you think this might be the case? I think it's healthy for strong engagement between club and fans, lively questioning..

Clearly the club disagree.

That's on the club, that 2nd bit. Foisted on him, half a role.

For a long time there has been less and less fan involvement, for example the club didn’t even bother with a supporters club bar during the rebuild, FAN has been disbanded. 

I undestand it to a degree it is all very much more professional now at the club, fans in a way is an inconvenience. 

Im still convinced the club wanted the eastend to die when it was moved to the Williams, then moved to the atyeo. I’m sure “standing singing fans” were placed in the atyeo and not the south stand when it was first open as there were directors etc in one corner. It was always like the club wanted standing area to fail so they could get rid of it, only last season they have decided it can be useful for social media getting fans together etc. 

The less input the better from fans for the club, you pay your money, you turn up you go home. Fan involvement just means they have more hassle and extra grief for really what they would class as petty issues.

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1 hour ago, AshtonPark said:

I don’t know why people are surprised, I’ve said it before it obvious there is now a clear indication that club officials are not to post on here anymore.

Secondly, this isn’t the guys primary job and I doubt he even wanted it. He isn’t a full time SLO, Matt was the clubs first full time SLO and his role obviously morphed into something else. 

In this case club officials should be banned from this forum. Why should we feed them with information when they clearly are a bunch of total tits

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18 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

In this case club officials should be banned from this forum. Why should we feed them with information when they clearly are a bunch of total tits

I think Julie H at least engages but yeah the rest should go forth and multiply- if they want nothing to do with us, the feeling should be mutual.

Ban any remaining current officials and make this a closed forum maybe one way to go- ie you have to register to view.

Not wholly sure what I make of the idea but it's one possible path of action?

Reckon Dave Storr would read this site but he's not logged in for 2 and a half years- shouldn't have the privilege!

For all of Julie H and her engagement too, I've always found it a little odd that given historic relations between fans and police, that a football fans forum should have a club official who is ultimately a Police Officer.

Probably good outweighs bad but always been a bit conflicted!

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2 hours ago, AshtonPark said:

For a long time there has been less and less fan involvement, for example the club didn’t even bother with a supporters club bar during the rebuild, FAN has been disbanded. 

I undestand it to a degree it is all very much more professional now at the club, fans in a way is an inconvenience. 

Im still convinced the club wanted the eastend to die when it was moved to the Williams, then moved to the atyeo. I’m sure “standing singing fans” were placed in the atyeo and not the south stand when it was first open as there were directors etc in one corner. It was always like the club wanted standing area to fail so they could get rid of it, only last season they have decided it can be useful for social media getting fans together etc. 

The less input the better from fans for the club, you pay your money, you turn up you go home. Fan involvement just means they have more hassle and extra grief for really what they would class as petty issues.

1) Agreed. Elements of this I wasn't so aware of but yeah sounds like it- FAN disbanded- and replaced by...?

2) Yeah- I can see that viewpoint, but fans are the club ultimately. From their angle though, can see why they would see it in those terms.

3) This I do agree with you on. Especially the redevelopment and the "standing, singing fans"- Directors and corporate areas were in the South Stand in 2015/16 were they not? That was the most corporate friendly stand until the Lansdown came about. From an "image" pov, well worth sticking the vocal/standing fans well away from such posh types.

4) Yep- agreed with you on this- in spades!

Would also add the following- my view on the ideal state of play as the club would see it!

  • Pay money
  • Turn up- in a nice, calm and timely manner.
  • Go round the club shop, coffee shop and buy buy buy!
  • Drink in the concourse- dual, maybe triple effect of club revenue, monitoring and yes no mad dash in the final half hour from the pub.
  • Smiley, happy, families IN- Vocal fans, groups of lads 18-I dunno mid 30s OUT or at least the balance tipped in a major way towards the former. Not that there is anything wrong with families at football, of course not but bit of accommodation for all?
  • Crude language etc to a minimum, noise acceptable if reasonably anodyne.
  • Go home in a timely manner.
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@Mr Popodopolous

FAN was disbanded when the football club said they would no longer be attending any meetings, which rendered it pointless sadly. At the time they said they would be introducing a new way of fans and the club/board interacting. We’re still waiting for that to materialise. 

The new SLO Ryan Corrigan did attend this months SC&T meeting, and I presume he will continue to do this. 

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8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

1) Agreed. Elements of this I wasn't so aware of but yeah sounds like it- FAN disbanded- and replaced by...?

2) Yeah- I can see that viewpoint, but fans are the club ultimately. From their angle though, can see why they would see it in those terms.

3) This I do agree with you on. Especially the redevelopment and the "standing, singing fans"- Directors and corporate areas were in the South Stand in 2015/16 were they not? That was the most corporate friendly stand until the Lansdown came about. From an "image" pov, well worth sticking the vocal/standing fans well away from such posh types.

4) Yep- agreed with you on this- in spades!

Would also add the following- my view on the ideal state of play as the club would see it!

  • Pay money
  • Turn up- in a nice, calm and timely manner.
  • Go round the club shop, coffee shop and buy buy buy!
  • Drink in the concourse- dual, maybe triple effect of club revenue, monitoring and yes no mad dash in the final half hour from the pub.
  • Smiley, happy, families IN- Vocal fans, groups of lads 18-I dunno mid 30s OUT or at least the balance tipped in a major way towards the former. Not that there is anything wrong with families at football, of course not but bit of accommodation for all?
  • Crude language etc to a minimum, noise acceptable if reasonably anodyne.
  • Go home in a timely manner.

Agree with this, but trying to view this from the club/SLO perspective, why would they even consider engaging on this or any other social media site when the majority of commentators are anonymous keyboard warriors who love to argue and knock anything and everything the club does? In my experience dealing with MP, an email/phone call or face to face chat was all that was needed. Any social media questions would be ambushed by the aforementioned anonymous buffoons which no one, especially a business would want to get dragged into. IMO the FAN or a similar alternative would be the best way forward not the so-called fan meetings/lock-ins which only represent a small minority and are far from transparent.

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13 hours ago, AshtonPark said:

I don’t know why people are surprised, I’ve said it before it obvious there is now a clear indication that club officials are not to post on here anymore.

Secondly, this isn’t the guys primary job and I doubt he even wanted it. He isn’t a full time SLO, Matt was the clubs first full time SLO and his role obviously morphed into something else. 

It makes sense for a SLO to be on here. It's a good sample of supporters of various ages and with various issues. I remember it working pretty well with Mark Kelly and Matt Parsons in the past. 

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34 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

It makes sense for a SLO to be on here. It's a good sample of supporters of various ages and with various issues. I remember it working pretty well with Mark Kelly and Matt Parsons in the past. 

A mate has asked the new SLO on Twitter if they will be joining the forum, pointing out a lot of what you said in that post. Agree with your post btw.

Like me, they will not be holding their breath- either for a response or indeed more importantly for positive action e.g. the new SLO joining this place.

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Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

A mate has asked the new SLO on Twitter if he will be joining out the forum, pointing out a lot of what you said in that post.

Like me, they will not be holding their breath.

I can only assume that they think they'll be hounded on here or face tricky questions. I don't think that's the case really, and it's actually possible to moderate questions and interactions on here unlike Twitter.

If you remember the West Ham TV game a few years back, when the 'Ultras' flag was unceremoniously removed, the radio silence from the club didn't help matters. If we'd had an SLO engaging on the issue and discussing it - it probably wouldn't have escalated as it did. 

I'm not really sure why Mark Kelly stopped posting - I remember that also was very useful.

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1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I'm not really sure why Mark Kelly stopped posting - I remember that also was very useful.

Mark Kelly was very good at liaising with people on here, and to be fair to him he still is very approachable and will speak to supporters now

Having an SLO isn't a choice, it is a UEFA requirement so assume by the club putting this role onto this new guy in the clubs eyes ticks the required box. I couldn't tell you anything about this new guy, who he is what he looks like, where he can be found on a matchday. To be fair to Matt Parsons he put a lot of work in when he started getting to know supporters and various groups of people, this new guy may not even exist to my knowledge !

I note @Dollymarie said he attended the SC&T I would like to think that they would be putting pressure on him to do the required role of liaising with supporters on fans forums etc

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1 minute ago, phantom said:

I note @Dollymarie said he attended the SC&T I would like to think that they would be putting pressure on him to do the required role of liaising with supporters on fans forums etc

We did try and impress that on him. 

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13 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said:

In this case club officials should be banned from this forum. Why should we feed them with information when they clearly are a bunch of total tits

We know they view this site, it is funny how often something is written on here and within a short space of time appears on the OS.

As for banning people unless they use a bristolsport email address there is no way of knowing who is who

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This was one of his earlier Tweets.

Minor in the scheme, before first home game in his position ie the Crystal Palace friendly, but not the best start.

Same picture in fact it'd seem, for the following first "real" home game.

 

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3 hours ago, Pieman said:

Agree with this, but trying to view this from the club/SLO perspective, why would they even consider engaging on this or any other social media site when the majority of commentators are anonymous keyboard warriors who love to argue and knock anything and everything the club does? In my experience dealing with MP, an email/phone call or face to face chat was all that was needed. Any social media questions would be ambushed by the aforementioned anonymous buffoons which no one, especially a business would want to get dragged into. IMO the FAN or a similar alternative would be the best way forward not the so-called fan meetings/lock-ins which only represent a small minority and are far from transparent.

...really? The 'majority'? Many, if not the overwhelming majority, of the regular posters on here are home and away City fans of many years standing...and whilst they'll hold the club to account and have opinions they want Bristol City to succeed. I fear, however, that when you stereotype contributors to forums such as this as 'anonymous buffoons' you are closer to the thinking of the club hierarchy that you think - or maybe you have a detailed knowledge of how they consider the fan base?

By complete contrast when Matt Parsons started this thread he wrote that 'Ryan has worked closely with me and the BCFC management team and understands that our Supporters should be at the heart of everything we do operationally. There will be some advancements in supporter liaison services next season, specifically for City fans, particularly on match day and social media.'

A question about the fans features in every post match interview with LJ, who invariably talks positively about the contribution supporters make.

It seems remarkable to me, then, that the SLO twitter feed appears inactive and that when inviting supporters to come and meet him the SLO posts a picture of a banner and not himself! Extraordinary.

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12 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

...really? The 'majority'? Many, if not the overwhelming majority, of the regular posters on here are home and away City fans of many years standing...and whilst they'll hold the club to account and have opinions they want Bristol City to succeed. I fear, however, that when you stereotype contributors to forums such as this as 'anonymous buffoons' you are closer to the thinking of the club hierarchy that you think - or maybe you have a detailed knowledge of how they consider the fan base?

By complete contrast when Matt Parsons started this thread he wrote that 'Ryan has worked closely with me and the BCFC management team and understands that our Supporters should be at the heart of everything we do operationally. There will be some advancements in supporter liaison services next season, specifically for City fans, particularly on match day and social media.'

A question about the fans features in every post match interview with LJ, who invariably talks positively about the contribution supporters make.

It seems remarkable to me, then, that the SLO twitter feed appears inactive and that when inviting supporters to come and meet him the SLO posts a picture of a banner and not himself! Extraordinary.

I think you have the wrong end of the stick. 

Seems to me that the poster was referring to those who respond to SLO threads not posters in general. I tend to agree with much that he said. There are a number who will see anything a club official says as an opportunity to slag em off. 

 

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24 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I think you have the wrong end of the stick. 

Seems to me that the poster was referring to those who respond to SLO threads not posters in general. I tend to agree with much that he said. There are a number who will see anything a club official says as an opportunity to slag em off. 

 

Can't agree.

Non liaising Supporter er Liaison Officers are worthy of criticism as they are not carrying out their basic remit- and they will get it!

Club officials words and actions should be judged on their merit, not who is delivering them.

I think this forum can be quite challenging question wise to the club officials- and as long as it is constructive, it should be welcomed, not shirked.

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

This was one of his earlier Tweets.

Minor in the scheme, before first home game in his position ie the Crystal Palace friendly, but not the best start.

Same picture in fact it'd seem, for the following first "real" home game.

 

Maybe he's really,really ugly and doesn't want his pic up to put people off?

 

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4 hours ago, Pieman said:

Agree with this, but trying to view this from the club/SLO perspective, why would they even consider engaging on this or any other social media site when the majority of commentators are anonymous keyboard warriors who love to argue and knock anything and everything the club does?

That's not really fair. On here especially, most of the interactions with club staff are fair and done in the correct way. People hold the club to account, and will criticise where necessary, but that's because it's something close to people's hearts. It's not like a normal business.

4 hours ago, Pieman said:

In my experience dealing with MP, an email/phone call or face to face chat was all that was needed. Any social media questions would be ambushed by the aforementioned anonymous buffoons which no one, especially a business would want to get dragged into. IMO the FAN or a similar alternative would be the best way forward not the so-called fan meetings/lock-ins which only represent a small minority and are far from transparent.

If you are able to, maybe have a look at the old Mark Kelly sub-forum. Questions were pre-vetted and answered properly. That worked very well. Difficult to mediate over Twitter, but as with any customer service position - you're going to get difficult questions and customers. It comes with the territory - it's not about people being 'keyboard warriors'.

Yes, face to face is always better - but that's simply not practical. It's 2019, embracing online modes of comms in this position is really important.

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9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

That's not really fair. On here especially, most of the interactions with club staff are fair and done in the correct way. People hold the club to account, and will criticise where necessary, but that's because it's something close to people's hearts. It's not like a normal business.

If you are able to, maybe have a look at the old Mark Kelly sub-forum. Questions were pre-vetted and answered properly. That worked very well. Difficult to mediate over Twitter, but as with any customer service position - you're going to get difficult questions and customers. It comes with the territory - it's not about people being 'keyboard warriors'.

Yes, face to face is always better - but that's simply not practical. It's 2019, embracing online modes of comms in this position is really important.

From my post, I was trying to add some perspective to why there seems to be a lot of frustration with the lack of club/SLO interaction on this site, and why they maybe hesitant. A forum like this, however well moderated, is similar to twitter and Facebook whereby the quest to be heard/liked or just get your point of view across is like kids in a playground shouting to be heard (I don’t insinuate people on here are childish). In a sea of thousands of comments it’s usually the most controversial or aggressive (or funny) that get recognition. IMO that is one of the main faults with social media in general, but that’s probably best left for a different thread. For a club to expose itself to this in a culture where every post/tweet/comment is over analysed by those who may be wanting to criticise for their own social kudos (or financial gain in the media) will be risky and should be done with caution. But I do sometimes talk a complete load of cr*p.

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Can't agree.

Non liaising Supporter er Liaison Officers are worthy of criticism as they are not carrying out their basic remit- and they will get it!

Club officials words and actions should be judged on their merit, not who is delivering them.

I think this forum can be quite challenging question wise to the club officials- and as long as it is constructive, it should be welcomed, not shirked.

Again, wrong end of the stick.

I actually agree with what you are saying.

The bit in bold is where it all falls down when club officials come on here. 

Pieman is correct imo.

 

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Who is saying it would only be criticism the SLO would get, occasionally there is praise to be shared too. And any ‘difficult’ questions can easily be dealt with, there is a range of staff he can liase with.

If I have a problem with any other business I email or use Twitter, as generally there is no forum as such. And I do expect a response. For some products there are forums and the answer is oftenfound there, the person responsible has responded once and then there isn’t twenty or more duplicate questions or answers. This has worked well here is the past as stated.

If the club are going to treat us like customers they really need to up their customer service, to include all forms of social media. Yes I know the role was thrust on to him, but why make such a poor job of it. It’s not exactly difficult is it if it is done correctly and with heart. But if his heart isn’t in it we are fighting a lost cause, such a shame.

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2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

This was one of his earlier Tweets.

Minor in the scheme, before first home game in his position ie the Crystal Palace friendly, but not the best start.

Same picture in fact it'd seem, for the following first "real" home game.

 

That's utterly embarrassing. A SLO should be known to the supporters, speak to them, engage whenever possible (OTIB has to be one of the best platforms for that) and here the guy is posting a picture of a flag. Someone posted a picture of the Derby SLO's, all smiling, in a stand out blue jacket, looking very approachable. Why has the club and this guy, deemed it acceptable for a bloody picture of a flag/pillar to be used as a friendly invite for people to come and see him? 

Absolutely incredible. 

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12 minutes ago, Akira said:

That's utterly embarrassing. A SLO should be known to the supporters, speak to them, engage whenever possible (OTIB has to be one of the best platforms for that) and here the guy is posting a picture of a flag. Someone posted a picture of the Derby SLO's, all smiling, in a stand out blue jacket, looking very approachable. Why has the club and this guy, deemed it acceptable for a bloody picture of a flag/pillar to be used as a friendly invite for people to come and see him? 

Absolutely incredible. 

I was wondering whether that might have been him sat there with the bag so held fire a bit.

Poor in any case and if not him, well it's simply amateur hour!

Very very odd too. Used the same picture for both.

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1 hour ago, bcfc01 said:

I think you have the wrong end of the stick. 

Seems to me that the poster was referring to those who respond to SLO threads not posters in general. I tend to agree with much that he said. There are a number who will see anything a club official says as an opportunity to slag em off. 

 

I really don't think I have got the wrong end of the stick. The poster was unfairly caricaturing contributors to this forum. You don't have to look far on this thread to find people who devote a considerable amount of time and thought to the welfare of the club.

As for the SLO, I've had public facing jobs in the past - as it happens considerably more public facing than being the supporters liaison office of a football club. The SLO  job involves liaising with the public. Get things right and you'll get credit and bouquets...and the respect that Dave L had. Get things wrong and people will hold you to account. Nothing wrong with that - that's the job. What sort of liaison is it if the person being paid to do the job avoids engagement and apparently seeks to remain anonymous?

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22 minutes ago, Pieman said:

From my post, I was trying to add some perspective to why there seems to be a lot of frustration with the lack of club/SLO interaction on this site, and why they maybe hesitant. A forum like this, however well moderated, is similar to twitter and Facebook whereby the quest to be heard/liked or just get your point of view across is like kids in a playground shouting to be heard (I don’t insinuate people on here are childish). In a sea of thousands of comments it’s usually the most controversial or aggressive (or funny) that get recognition. IMO that is one of the main faults with social media in general, but that’s probably best left for a different thread. For a club to expose itself to this in a culture where every post/tweet/comment is over analysed by those who may be wanting to criticise for their own social kudos (or financial gain in the media) will be risky and should be done with caution. But I do sometimes talk a complete load of cr*p.

...or indeed like kids dishing out turd emojis - which I'd insinuate was being childish! But hey ho...

This forum is home to a great deal of well informed comment...which the club would do well to engage with...and in the past has. 

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6 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

I really don't think I have got the wrong end of the stick. The poster was unfairly caricaturing posters on this forum. You don't have to look far on this thread to find people who devote a considerable amount of time and thought to the welfare of the club.

As for the SLO, I've had public facing jobs in the past - as it happens considerably more public facing than being the supports liaison office of a football club. The SLO  job involves liaising with the public. Get things right and you'll get credit and bouquets...and the respect that Dave L had. Get things wrong and people will hold you to account. Nothing wrong with that - that's the job. What sort of liaison is it if the person being paid to do the job avoids engagement and apparently seeks to remain anonymous?

I can only repeat what I said in my previous reply to you and maintain you have the wrong end of the stick with regards to Piemans post.

As with Mr. P. I agree with a lot of what you say if not all of it.

 

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14 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I can only repeat what I said in my previous reply to you and maintain you have the wrong end of the stick with regards to Piemans post.

As with Mr. P. I agree with a lot of what you say if not all of it.

 

well I can't see what I've missed - 'occasional poster joins a discussion and takes a cheap shot' - is how I saw it. 

Each to his own. If the club is serious about liaising with fans it needs to employ someone with the conviction and confidence to argue a case, not some shrinking violet. Then again it is just possible that it's not serious.

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1 hour ago, Pieman said:

From my post, I was trying to add some perspective to why there seems to be a lot of frustration with the lack of club/SLO interaction on this site, and why they maybe hesitant. A forum like this, however well moderated, is similar to twitter and Facebook whereby the quest to be heard/liked or just get your point of view across is like kids in a playground shouting to be heard (I don’t insinuate people on here are childish). In a sea of thousands of comments it’s usually the most controversial or aggressive (or funny) that get recognition. IMO that is one of the main faults with social media in general, but that’s probably best left for a different thread. For a club to expose itself to this in a culture where every post/tweet/comment is over analysed by those who may be wanting to criticise for their own social kudos (or financial gain in the media) will be risky and should be done with caution. But I do sometimes talk a complete load of cr*p.

The bottom line @Pieman

It is a UEFA requirement that the SLO must liaise with supporters on fans websites - like it or not they need to be doing their job

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