Lenners Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Given the discussion that’s gone on really ever since the reform of AG, is now not a perfect time to really press the club on amending seating arrangements at AG and making the matchday experience enjoyable once again? We were told it wasn’t possible for home fans to be back in the Atyeo as away fans couldn’t be in the home concourse, but as Leeds have proved this season (they split the away end in half, split the concourse and added another entrance) this really is possible. I miss the Atyeo, the standing at AG is limited to season ticket holders which sells out on the first day of sales and shoved in the corner. For this, the atmosphere suffers. Can you imagine if we could have the whole Atyeo as a standing end? Stick the away fans up in the gods, let’s make AG a fortress again and a wall of noise. @JerrySLOcould you please advise who I can write mine and many others concerns to, to be heard? TIA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 How I miss the days gone by, who use to remember when(mainly cup games) When you took at chance on which end you entered, to see which way our team was kicking in the first half. If you called it correct,it was fine,then during the half time break their was a civilised walk to the other end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, JollyestOli said: Given the discussion that’s gone on really ever since the reform of AG, is now not a perfect time to really press the club on amending seating arrangements at AG and making the matchday experience enjoyable once again? We were told it wasn’t possible for home fans to be back in the Atyeo as away fans couldn’t be in the home concourse, but as Leeds have proved this season (they split the away end in half, split the concourse and added another entrance) this really is possible. I miss the Atyeo, the standing at AG is limited to season ticket holders which sells out on the first day of sales and shoved in the corner. For this, the atmosphere suffers. Can you imagine if we could have the whole Atyeo as a standing end? Stick the away fans up in the gods, let’s make AG a fortress again and a wall of noise. @JerrySLOcould you please advise who I can write mine and many others concerns to, to be heard? TIA. Seems to me away fans cannot be "stuck" anywhere else now as it would upset to many ST holders, assume you mean top of the Lansdown above City fans and near The Directors seats.....not going to happen. If the top half of The South Stand (hate that name) could be made safe standing with sit/stand anywhere you like it would be an improvement as The Corner is far to small........that alas is not going to happen as current ST holders again would not be happy. There is not one stand now that has the same name, size or design as when I loved my days " at the footie" now gone and never to return.....progress......but not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 The main problem with away fans in the top tier of the Lansdown is access. The only way to get there is through the main concourse at the lower level - ie home and away fans mixing = potential chaos. As for “making the matchday experience enjoyable once again” I think it’s fantastic as it is. The new concourse the runs under three stands is great and I haven’t got any urge to stand up. Some people do, some don’t, it’s personal choice but I don’t think any major changes are likely unless / until the Dolman is rebuilt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Rather than changing the configuration, I'd just like to be let in again! And that decision doesn't rest with the club, sadly. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 The atmosphere is incredible with the away fans in the Atyeo, Leeds were always amazing... How about we just concentrate on building a team who can shut them up when we’re at home!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, JollyestOli said: Given the discussion that’s gone on really ever since the reform of AG, is now not a perfect time to really press the club on amending seating arrangements at AG and making the matchday experience enjoyable once again? We were told it wasn’t possible for home fans to be back in the Atyeo as away fans couldn’t be in the home concourse, but as Leeds have proved this season (they split the away end in half, split the concourse and added another entrance) this really is possible. @JerrySLO I think there's a reason why it's not been a problem this season. Can't think what it is though....! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: What a complete bufoon Personally , Id like to see you and your 7 family members transferred to a assigned enclosed area / town where you can ignore the harmless CoVid and behave how you wish , with other like minded and selfish tyoes No NHS facilities - you get on with it , catch it , on your own Sadly, the attitude expressed is one reason why the Government are delaying, that, plus the fact that they have not yet learnt that there is a massive difference between National League and Premiership. There is no logical reason why limited attendances could not attend outdoor sporting fixtures, it’s really just a mix of ignorance, prejudice, incompetence and lack of Tory donors in football that are delaying things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, JollyestOli said: Given the discussion that’s gone on really ever since the reform of AG, is now not a perfect time to really press the club on amending seating arrangements at AG and making the matchday experience enjoyable once again? We were told it wasn’t possible for home fans to be back in the Atyeo as away fans couldn’t be in the home concourse, but as Leeds have proved this season (they split the away end in half, split the concourse and added another entrance) this really is possible. I miss the Atyeo, the standing at AG is limited to season ticket holders which sells out on the first day of sales and shoved in the corner. For this, the atmosphere suffers. Can you imagine if we could have the whole Atyeo as a standing end? Stick the away fans up in the gods, let’s make AG a fortress again and a wall of noise. @JerrySLOcould you please advise who I can write mine and many others concerns to, to be heard? TIA. I still don't see the Atyeo stand as being of any historical significance as far as the home game experience goes. The Open End, yes. The EastEnd, yes. Even B Block Dolman to a point. But with no open end, and Section82 in the South Stand, I think this is as close as people might realistically expect to get to an 'old' configuration. The only way I could see it changing would be if Section82 were to change ends and take half the Atyeo, but I don't imagine there would be any appetite for that outside the Prem where the gaps in the South Stand that they currently fill could be resold to Season Ticket holders. With the vastly improved concourse facilities in the main stadium, they too might be thinking 'we get to stand and sing, we can get a pint and go for a half time piss' - 'do we really want to move to a worse view and fewer facilities?' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 11, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: What a complete bufoon Personally , Id like to see you and your 7 family members transferred to a assigned enclosed area / town where you can ignore the harmless CoVid and behave how you wish , with other like minded and selfish tyoes No NHS facilities - you get on with it , catch it , on your own So you are choosing to ignore the fact that grounds all over the country have measures in place to safely check and seat people in a limited attendance Perhaps you should stop ignoring facts and get your head out of the sand? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: 'we get to stand and sing, we can get a pint and go for a half time piss' - 'do we really want to move to a worse view and fewer facilities?' New chant? What tune is it sung to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, CyderInACan said: New chant? What tune is it sung to? Err, I'm a lumberjack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, phantom said: So you are choosing to ignore the fact that grounds all over the country have measures in place to safely check and seat people in a limited attendance Perhaps you should stop ignoring facts and get your head out of the sand? I think the trouble is how many you are going to let in to each game. A couple of hundred is easy to control and cleaning sanitising isn’t a problem. It is when you get to 30% of Old Trafford 21000 people safely trying to queue 2 metres apart for the loos. How long will those queues be (out the ground) and would everyone follow the rules about hand washing distancing etc. Seating isn’t a problem and checking people in isn’t a problem it’s the what you do with people when they are inside that’s the trouble. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySLO Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 As I understand it Mark Kelly and Martin Griffiths originally met with the the 'Atyeo Singers' and they requested the move to the South Stand which the club facilitated. For the Fulham game we opened half the Atyeo and from memory not that many fans took up the option to sit in there to be honest maybe that was due to seat moves not being available. l chatted with Mark earlier on the subject and you can email him directly mark.kelly@ashtongate.co.uk. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, phantom said: So you are choosing to ignore the fact that grounds all over the country have measures in place to safely check and seat people in a limited attendance Perhaps you should stop ignoring facts and get your head out of the sand? So you are telling me , guaranteeing in fact , that there will be no spread of the virus (Not any) by crowds attending football matches ? My ‘ head is out the sand ‘ thanks’, I’m also alive to the fact , for example , that fans also have to travel to the area and ground How many lives lost to this Virus and how many projected ? So you , and others, want to try and bully / force the authorities into a gamble (However small any perceived risk) with peoples lives because people demand their right to see their side live. Ok then Sorry , I’m a million miles from your thinking - And IIRC you were having to shield during the first wave. Im sympathetic with that, as I am having too also , but I am then even more astounded that you are such a strong advocate of a return now Edited November 11, 2020 by Sheltons Army 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 With the ground redevelopment I can't understand why anyone would want to go in the one stand that hasn't been updated, it was never a cauldron of noise when it was the home end, different when 2-3000 away fans are stood together but it would never be like that housing home fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 11, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: So you are telling me , guaranteeing in fact , that there will be no spread of the virus (Not any) by crowds attending football matches ? Sorry , I’m a million miles from your thinking - And IIRC you were having to shield during the first wave. Yeah, because people will be temperature checked before getting near the ground, and then there will be sufficient spacing within the ground You are correct, as I have Parkinsons I was in a group advised to self isolate with zero contact. But equally I have been out and about (and includes being at Ashton Gate for the Norwich game) and witnessed measures in place that now make me confident and happy of measures in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, phantom said: Yeah, because people will be temperature checked before getting near the ground, and then there will be sufficient spacing within the ground You are correct, as I have Parkinsons I was in a group advised to self isolate with zero contact. But equally I have been out and about (and includes being at Ashton Gate for the Norwich game) and witnessed measures in place that now make me confident and happy of measures in place Whilst I’m genuinely pleased you feel assured , and in many ways it’s only right that you can make your individual decision about risk v consequence ( Id just point out that the Virus has struck in just about every environment including in numerous clubs where strict protocols and testing are taking place - In simple terms , when people circulate the virus spreads) But Its not just your own health and life you are risking (To whatever degree) it’s others too And there lies the overriding issue for me Good luck and sympathies with your condition Phant , 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenners Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, pongo88 said: The main problem with away fans in the top tier of the Lansdown is access. The only way to get there is through the main concourse at the lower level - ie home and away fans mixing = potential chaos. As for “making the matchday experience enjoyable once again” I think it’s fantastic as it is. The new concourse the runs under three stands is great and I haven’t got any urge to stand up. Some people do, some don’t, it’s personal choice but I don’t think any major changes are likely unless / until the Dolman is rebuilt The point is mate, for those that do the option isnt there if you don’t have a season ticket. That’s an issue, it affects the atmosphere. No stand in English football where fans sit down has any sort of atmosphere anymore, that’s just the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, JollyestOli said: The point is mate, for those that do the option isnt there if you don’t have a season ticket. That’s an issue, it affects the atmosphere. No stand in English football where fans sit down has any sort of atmosphere anymore, that’s just the way it is. That may be correct mate, but it doesn’t address the problems with the current ground configuration. It’s impossible to move the away fans from the Atyeo without redesigning the concourses to allow separate access and segregation and it’s impossible to create more standing without moving hundreds of season ticket holders who don’t want to move. In other words, it’s not going to happen any time in the near future. If there is ever a replacement for the Atyeo or Dolman then it’s easy but that, if it happens, is way into the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: How I miss the days gone by, who use to remember when(mainly cup games) When you took at chance on which end you entered, to see which way our team was kicking in the first half. If you called it correct,it was fine,then during the half time break their was a civilised walk to the other end. This used to be possible when I started watching as a kid in the 90s. I remember my dad taking me to several games in the Benny Division 1 days where we'd walk down the other end of the Williams (I think) to watch the end we were attacking - not that we seemed to spend much time attacking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, phantom said: Yeah, because people will be temperature checked before getting near the ground, and then there will be sufficient spacing within the ground You are correct, as I have Parkinsons I was in a group advised to self isolate with zero contact. But equally I have been out and about (and includes being at Ashton Gate for the Norwich game) and witnessed measures in place that now make me confident and happy of measures in place Sorry this is off-topic, did you get official shielding letter or just advisory from somewhere? FIL has parkinsons and had one of those brain implant's put in (which is brilliant btw) he had some kind of flu in January and ended up hospitalised with pneumonia so we consider him high risk but he never received anything from his GP to officially shield. I tried to avoid going to the office for this reason because he came to live with us but HR were having none of it without a formal letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 11, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: Sorry this is off-topic, did you get official shielding letter or just advisory from somewhere? FIL has parkinsons and had one of those brain implant's put in (which is brilliant btw) he had some kind of flu in January and ended up hospitalised with pneumonia so we consider him high risk but he never received anything from his GP to officially shield. I tried to avoid going to the office for this reason because he came to live with us but HR were having none of it without a formal letter. Hi @MarcusX I'll PM you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) I'm on the fence- I like the idea as we all do I am sure about reopening stadia, but I don't know. I don't think there is enough conclusive, iron-plated evidence from here and round the world to justify right now- especially when limitations in other areas. @phantom mentions France I think. It's interesting that Germany which was one of the best placed to reopen, or have them reopened when cases were at a certain level shut them- they've faired better than us in the Pandemic thusfar. I think Italy reversed limited numbers in ground to go behind closed doors again- Holland, the Mayor of either Amsterdam or Rotterdam- so Ajax or Feyenoord- had some disquiet even back in early September saying if fans Read a piece in WSC about issues in Russia with it to today, will post if I cna find online- but OTOH the Test events here seemingly went well but there's so little concrete data put out there on football in the public domain that it's impossible to make a definitive judgement right now IMO! That's 1,000 max anyway, or 2,500 at the most at Brighton anyway, in sunnier weather where perhaps the virus spreads less efficiently, vs 1/3 capacity in Autumn and Winter where there is a good chance that it can spread more efficently. Certainly full capacity would be an absolute no go- see Liverpool v Atletico in March, see Atalanta v Valencia in February, played at the San Siro over in Milan- the latter was in particular spoken about in particularly apocalyptic terms. Edited November 11, 2020 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Should also add that if there is a successful and effective vaccine that of course would be a major gamechanger but as it stands, in the current situation I really think the jury is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-brits-could-soon-attend-22996959 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-brits-could-soon-attend-22996959 So 5 pound more to watch a game and how would you know if your eligible to go if theres vastly reduced capacity and your test has to be the day before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54977370 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, CiderCraig said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54977370 Can’t see it happening. They admitted yesterday tier 1 does very little and i don’t think cases are going to be much lower in 2 weeks than they were when we went into lockdown. Tier 2 at least in most places which means no mixing in doors. Opening more things that weren’t open before just seems crazy to me and that goes for the Albert hall as well. That said, the government still seems to have no plan. They just hate making unpopular decisions and can’t say no to anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, CiderCraig said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54977370 Not a chance. Cases next month and Jan are going to go through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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