Phileas Fogg Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Thank you, mate. Was a corker tbf, and never thought it would all happen quite as quickly as this. I should point out, as I did in the original post, that the Ashton to Ipswich part of the rumour did come from the Ipswich end, so this wasn't someone at Ashton Gate doing it to piss Ashton off. Thanks for sharing it. I've always been surprised by the scornful reaction some posters have towards people sharing information. People can take or leave what people share, not complicated. Despite that - some people always try to shoot down anyone who's "ITK" or shares insider info. I can only imagine it's jealousy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Thanks for sharing it. I've always been surprised by the scornful reaction some posters have towards people sharing information. People can take or leave what people share, not complicated. Despite that - some people always try to shoot down anyone who's "ITK" or shares insider info. I can only imagine it's jealousy. It would be pretty odd if no one on this forum, either worked in the game, had relatives that do, or know people in it through work or social scene. So like you say, take it or leave it, but mindless to just dismiss it. Never understood that...it's easy to spot the fakers and attention seekers. Thankfully not many on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, spudski said: It would be pretty odd if no one on this forum, either worked in the game, had relatives that do, or know people in it through work or social scene. So like you say, take it or leave it, but mindless to just dismiss it. Never understood that...it's easy to spot the fakers and attention seekers. Thankfully not many on here. Agreed. I think generally people post things in good faith. I think I've 'heard' about 3 or 4 things during my time following the club. Most of those were during the GJ era unfortunately so a long time ago now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Agreed. I think generally people post things in good faith. I think I've 'heard' about 3 or 4 things during my time following the club. Most of those were during the GJ era unfortunately so a long time ago now! Most of us hear things and some post on here but to me it’s speculation and rumour without any hard evidence. Hearsay is not admissible in a court of law. I know that I chunter on about it but the only truly accurate club information is when it’s announced via the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 people using Gregor not reporting rumours as a stick to beat him yet, yet also dismiss a lot of stuff he published because it’s supposedly just rumours Someone mentioned it above, but the guy knows so much it’s unreal, and I’m sure there’s a lot he’d love to just write about. You can’t just post stuff without enough concrete evidence otherwise it’s career over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Most of us hear things and some post on here but to me it’s speculation and rumour without any hard evidence. Hearsay is not admissible in a court of law. I know that I chunter on about it but the only truly accurate club information is when it’s announced via the OS. Everyone knows that. I don't know why you keep tediously reminding people as if it's some massive hot take, it's just internet 101. The thing is if you refuse to believe anything apart from officially announced and media managed news, you will always be the last to know. It's up to you as a consumer to evaluate what you take seriously and what you ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Most of us hear things and some post on here but to me it’s speculation and rumour without any hard evidence. Hearsay is not admissible in a court of law. I know that I chunter on about it but the only truly accurate club information is when it’s announced via the OS. Do you believe everything the Club put out Robbo? I certainly don't. Like any business or organisation they'll say things that aren't necessarily true. Especially when previous employees have left and had to sign a 'gagging order'. The Club would have us believe that it was MA that achieved our Academy status and he put all the hard work in, as an example. Yeah right oh... But people who don't know any better would believe the club's ' theory'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 I learnt that Gregor's not a Bristol City fan. He just stopped himself from divulging the club he does support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I learnt that Gregor's not a Bristol City fan. He just stopped himself from divulging the club he does support. Isn't he a Bath City fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Robbored said: I know that I chunter on about it but the only truly accurate club information is when it’s announced via the OS. ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, tin said: Isn't he a Bath City fan? I don't know, for whatever reason he cut himself off from saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I learnt that Gregor's not a Bristol City fan. He just stopped himself from divulging the club he does support. Brentford I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 46 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Brentford I think. Sure I read that a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I learnt that Gregor's not a Bristol City fan. He just stopped himself from divulging the club he does support. He’s a Norfolk boy, and I think he’s a Norwich fan at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I don't know, for whatever reason he cut himself off from saying. Perhaps because that club is also in the Championship - at the moment... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, bcfc01 said: Brentford I think. That was Stockhausen, pretty sure Gregor is Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: The thing is if you refuse to believe anything apart from officially announced and media managed news, you will always be the last to know. It's up to you as a consumer to evaluate what you take seriously and what you ignore. That’s exactly what I do PF.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, spudski said: Do you believe everything the Club put out Robbo? I certainly don't. Like any business or organisation they'll say things that aren't necessarily true. Especially when previous employees have left and had to sign a 'gagging order'. The Club would have us believe that it was MA that achieved our Academy status and he put all the hard work in, as an example. Yeah right oh... But people who don't know any better would believe the club's ' theory'. I believe OS on matters relating to players moving in and out. I also believe announcements like the Ashton departure and I’ll believe it when the new CEO is appointed. Im experienced enough not to read the flannel and other ‘merits’ such as the guff regarding Ashton. That’s just inflated bluff that we all know is aimed at making him look better than he actually was. I imagine all clubs do the same sort of bluff when one of their hierarchy leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: ok At the time this post was unproven rumour - which happened to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: At the time this post was unproven rumour - which happened to be true. We've clearly established that many people do pay attention to rumours even if you don't. That's their choice, they're well aware that the OS will confirm things when they happen. Why do you need to tediously remind people of your own views on it over and over again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 I thought all of Gregor's comments were spot on and i also think he's very good at his job and gives us good coverage! A refreshing change from his predecessor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: He’s a Norfolk boy, and I think he’s a Norwich fan at heart. Easy to tell, how many fingers does he have? Are they webbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Riaz said: I thought all of Gregor's comments were spot on and i also think he's very good at his job and gives us good coverage! A refreshing change from his predecessor! That’s certainly true! AS was truly dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: We've clearly established that many people do pay attention to rumours even if you don't. That's their choice, they're well aware that the OS will confirm things when they happen. Why do you need to tediously remind people of your own views on it over and over again? I won't believe Robbored's comments until they are on the OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 21 hours ago, 054123 said: It was ever thus. I always felt Martin Samuel was an opinionated fraud. I always felt he was a fat, bearded **** ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 7 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Sure I read that a while back. Well the infamous "drunk driver" was deffo a Bees fan ! Edit Sorry Graham C just saw your comment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Agreed. I think generally people post things in good faith. I think I've 'heard' about 3 or 4 things during my time following the club. Most of those were during the GJ era unfortunately so a long time ago now! My two "involvments" in transfers are years old so no internet to publicise them. October 1961 after Reading v City at Elm Park. This guy started asking a small group of young City fans about our two wingers. We all rattled on about Jimmy Rogers but he kept mentioning John McCann. In Evening Post on the next Monday was a picture of Jack Connor signing for City and this guy next to him. He was Huddersfield chief scout and they got McCann in exchange. I was working in Telford, 1988-9 and met Mark Kendall, Wolves goalie. Chatted football and he said if I meet Joe Jordan, to tell him he, Kendall, would like a move nearer to his Swansea home. At Chester City a week later I passed it on to Joe. He said thanks with a completely blank look. So I had a teeny weeny part in Jack Connor coming to City but sod all else in seventy years! So if I post any gems, they should be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 A 39 minute glowing tribute to Mark Ashton and over the top. That's what I came away with. At complete odds with the majority of the fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 Interesting listen. But the truth is never mind about what good contacts he has got and things about finding the right players and selling them on for a profit. What matters to me are the results and the way we play. Get those two things right and you've got one happy fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 I congratulate KITR on getting it right, again! It's happened so many times now I really don't know why some question it. On Ashton, I never liked his delivery, always found him smarmy, slippery, arrogant and rather condescending but, I stomached it until the Holden charade where he was 'the best man for the job'. Spin and bullshit, I lost all faith in anything Ashton said after that plus what I stomached before really started to annoy me. Do I knock what he's done here? Probably not. Is he worth the obscene salary? Probably not. Am I glad he's going? Yes but the replacement will have a great bearing on that. Would I want to have a beer with him? Christ no! Obnoxious blown up car salesman is how I'll remember him and I don't particularly like salesmen (no offence to anyone on here in sales)! GG didn't even mention his delivery I notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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