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2 hours ago, Cole Not Gas said:

I do not intend 'winding up' people - there is enough of that and 'Pearson-love-in' on this forum. Nor do i think i'm a genuine (or troll) moron! You make a very good point about budget cuts and i would totally agree with you. Iam Nick's point about W-S-M who Tinman/The Club presented to Pearson rather than trusting him to bring in any of his own signings. I saw most of Weimann's 22 that season and fair play to Pearson, appreciated Martin, seeing his goals at Peterborough in the rain,and I know how good Semenyo was. If Manning had Scott and Semenyo in his side, his record would be infinitely better than our last 3-4 seasons.

So i liked Diedhiou, accept he didnt help us at the end, i dont believe much of what Ashton ever said and i am certainly not a Pearson fan. TC scores today!

Tell you what, why don’t you sing your nice little song all by yourself, then any OTIBers who are nearby will get to see who the Fammy fanboy, NP hating WUM actually is!

46 minutes ago, footie said:

Don’t post that often here but am a frequent reader, thought I’d share my thoughts as what I’d considered a balanced City fan.

For context my first season ticket was in the Danny Wilson days at 10 years old, I had become accustomed to different styles of football since then, yielding different results and a whole array of new and “improved” agendas.
 

To focus on our more recent history, we have had a turbulent few years where we experienced some highs and lows since being back in the championship, which under mr Pearson I had felt was trending in the right direction. I had awaited each pre match interview always excited with what Nige had to say. Arriving to each match with Nige at the helm I felt we were in safe hands and knew that all players were going to give us 100% each game and play to our strengths wherever we could.

As much as I think Liam is a likeable, tactical and potentially progressive head coach, I’m unsure this fit is what we’ve needed to achieve the next level. I feel all previous optimism has completely diminished for me, the whole team play with a different personality and for the first time in a fair few years I don’t feel at one with our club. I’m struggling to look forward to our games currently and feel something has to give with the hierarchy, I’m always going to love our club but hope it’s not just me who’s in a currently disillusioned state!

 

 

Oh you’re far from alone in your disillusined state pal.  

I’ve been following the club a good bit longer than you, but you reflect my own feelings and mood exactly.

1 hour ago, Super said:

Absolutely but it was pretty obvious what it was going to turn into.

It is a discussion forum though Super.  It’s a sad day when someone can ask a valid question about the health of a very recent and popular manager, only to get piled on by the usual suspects of the NP out gang?

I can respect, though not understand their massive dislike of the bloke.  That said, if they dislike him so much, why not ignore the thread and leave it for those who respect him.

I suppose this is just a symptom of the world now.  You can’t just not like something, but you have to browbeat every ****** that has a different viewpoint than you and if you can’t beat them into submission, you try to get them cancelled.

I think some people need to remind themselves what adult, respectful  behaviour looks like!

49 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

Hey Alexa, define “triggered”….

 

Could also ask Alexa to define Happy Clapper 

36 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said:

Gotta be honest. I've rather given up on this season. 

This not getting too down after a loss and not too high after a win, doesn't go with being a fan of a football club. Emotion is such a large part of it. Take the emotion out and you don't really have a lot left.

They'll be wanting us to renew our season tickets soon, so I hope I can see a modicum of excitement on the horizon before I'm asked to part with my cash. 

 

Totally this.  

Football used to be completely about emotion, but when you take that away, it’s more like a cardboard cutout, rather than the real thing.

I’ve trained myself to avoid getting too emotional about this club to avoid disappointment, but I’m gradually approaching a point shere I don’t give a shit any more.   

At least low expectations avoid disappointment, though it certainly doesn’t inspire you to buy a seadon ticket.

On 25/02/2024 at 13:40, Big C said:

thankfully

Hence we suffer years of mediocrity. Great, isn’t it and a Cosy Club for the complacent owner.

22 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Yes. But apparently according to some, we shouldn't hold them account because we all knew they were talking tripe. 

Can't quite get my head around why we should let them off but there we go. 

There are some people on here who can see absolutely no wrong in the Lansdowns.  

I swear if Uncle Steve turned up at their door while they were having dinner, then came in and took a dump on their plate, they’d thank him for it and come on here and tell us all what a great bloke he is! 

22 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

My disenchantment with the club goes back a long way now to the day they sacked Steve Cotterill.

I was reinvigorated by the unexpected and excellent appointment of another great character and leader in NP, then just as the heavy lifting has been done to correct their horrendous errors of the past, and we could look forward with some degree of optimism and excitement, they boot him out too.

If the aim was to completely deflate and piss off fans like me they could hardly have done a better job.

 

My feelings exactly  

I’m resigned to the fact that SL and the fans want totally different things and as it’s ‘his club’, I’m not expecting us to get what we want while he’s the owner.

That’s why I want him gone.  This is a pale shadow of the club it used to be and he can take a lot of the blame for that.  It takes far more than a shiny stadium to make something to be proud of and to be totally honest, this club just feels dull and bland now.

If he just listened to his ‘customers’ occasionally, that would help, but that really doesn’t seem to be in his nature.

Just now, Davefevs said:

Certainly happened when Cotts was manager - “eff off out of the changing rooms, this is my area?

Top man Cott’s and certainly proves SL’s got previous then!

43 minutes ago, SydneyCity said:

He’ll be the one telling Bergkamp what to do.

and Lansdown senior will be coming in to talk to the players before the game.  I was told he tried that with Nige and got the door slammed on him!

I’d love to know if that was true.

11 hours ago, MelksRed said:

Down to motivation - no career enhancing opportunity like Southampton....players only want to turn up if they have a chance of being scouted for Prem clubs...irrespective of the input of the manager this macks of a total lack of professionalism.

Gone are they days when players played for the shirt. Just a stepping stone.....and we have clueless, spineless pr1cks in charge. What could go wrong?

Sadly, it’s beginning to look that way.  

The contrast between motivation and performance levels in high profile and televised games and your normal run-of-the-mill Championship games against poor opposition couldn’t be more obvious.

It’s getting beyond a joke.

1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I guess his hands are tied, as we speculated upon his appointment. JL and BT have to go. 

I don't see the point of giving him the summer either…

Nail on head!

What are the chances of success if we chuck a load of money at bringing in the players LM needs for his chosen style?  It would cost £millions and what was the point of bringing in someone in who couldn’t work with our current squad and need yet another rebuild?

The reality would more likely be, we try to do it on the cheap in the summer and find ourselves heading for League 1, or spending the £millions and it still not working, our finances take a massive hit and maybe still go down.

The best managers are the pragmatic ones, who with tactical ability and man management skills, get the best out of what they’re working with.  Whilst we’ve had a handful of good performances when playing counter-attack, we’ve failed dismally whilst playing LM’s preferred style and I seriously question if he has the skills to make it work at this level, regardless of the playing personnel available.

Manning appears to be a totally unsuitable replacement for Pearson and for that, the blame lies squarely with the Lansdowns and BT.  

If LM does go because he’s not up to the job, the same should also apply to JL and BT, as they are equally unsuitable.  It needs to be done soon imho, before those two idiots undo all the great work on cost cutting and steadying the ship, done by Pearson and Gould.

If SL doesn’t think we have a problem, he either doesn’t care any more, or really IS clueless!

6 hours ago, FNQ said:

Sorry, reading your comments above I'm struggling to see why you just couldn't vote on this poll? 

Clearly didn’t explain myself.  

At best, I’d probably give LM to the end of the season.  The problem with that is, I’ve got absolutely no confidence in those two clowns getting a better replacement in, so we’d then be out of the frying pan and into the fire.

The bottom line is, I don’t want to see him here next season, as I honestly don’t see he’s got what it takes.

So it’s a bit tough voting, when whatever you go for, it appears we’d be equally ******!

15 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Definitely the player we would need any time Maidstone are our opponents.

It’s “Kasey” by the way..

Yeah, you’re right, the opposition have a bit to do with it, but you can bet we’d make bleedin’ hard work of Maidstone though.

And Casey Palmer with two assists.  Looking like the player we had when Benik Afobe was up front, but what a massive disappointment he turned out after BA’s injury.

I just couldn’t vote on this poll, as if Manning was sacked, it would be Dumb and Dumber doing the recruitment, so who could have any confidence they’d make the right choice in getting in a replacement?

My really big issue with Manning is he appears to be a one trick pony, who can only contemplate and work with one playing style.  To compound that, he seems incapable of adapting our tactics during a match and if our opposition change their gameplan, he doesn’t seem able to respond to counter them.

The only time we’ve looked really threatening under him is when we’ve moved back to a counter attacking game through necessity, but that clearly isn’t his chosen style.  Even if he got the players to suit his chosen possession based style, I can imagine plenty of opposition managers outgunning him tactically.

I just can’t see any indications that he could organise a team to dominate the opposition and actually hurt them.  It’s ok making umpteen square passes, but you’ve eventually got to do something positive and I can’t see any signs of him knowing how to make that happen.

I just feel totally underwhelmed by him and dread the thought of us starting next season with him and seeing yet another season going down the crapper.  The only way I see him getting us out of this division is through the relegation trap door tbh.

10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I still think the Danny Simpson signing influenced some of them.

Forgot that one Dave and looking back, there were certainly some up in arms about it.

2 minutes ago, fisherrich said:

The Lansdown dictatorship of Bristol City is very similar to Putin’s dictatorship of Russia.

“Question me and you are out!”

Certainly seems that way and also why this club is basically stagnant and going nowhere.

3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I will never be able to figure out why there is a small but vocal minority of our fan base that have absolutely detested Nigel from day 1. Refuse to give him very little credit for the job he did and even up until the constant day are still making digs about him. 

It's embarrassing that their support for Manning is simply because he is not Nige. 

I can only guess that it's a masculinity thing. 

Yeah, I haven’t got my head round it either and have just given up trying to work it out now.

I found Nige a breath of fresh air while with us and although he had a rep as being abrasive, I just couldn’t help liking him. Guess he was just too much for the BCFC dictatorship and their associated fan club. 

Even though the football wasn’t that entertaining under him (it isn’t now either tbf), nobody can claim his teams weren’t to a man playing for the shirt, after he’d cleared out the wasters.

That never-say-die attitude seems to be fading fast sadly.

56 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

Have enjoyed this theme on here from people looking to criticise Pearson, yet James Piercy when Pearson was sacked described him as ‘an absolute joy to deal with’ who he’ll ‘genuinely miss speaking to’.

That just won’t suit the narrative of some on here, who for their own reasons, just didn’t want NP here.  

I admired the fact NP wouldn’t suffer fools gladly, so it doesn’t surprise me he got on great with JP, as he certainly knows his stuff.   I’d also choose a straight talker over a bullshitter any day, but sadly the former is very rare at this club, as they aren’t welcome here.

27 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

He's got new toys to play with now and got bored of his old one and passed it down to his son to run it into the ground.

It's very sad to see the direction this club is heading in at the moment and it is without doubt in need of fresh blood and capital at the top.

The only consolation is that things are always worse on the other side of the river

….. and there in a nutshell is a summary of professional football in Bristol.  

We’re both shit, but we’re at a higher level and pissed far more money down the drain to achieved our higher standard of shitness.

3 hours ago, M.D said:

Bristol born but have lived in Brighton for a long time, so I know a lot about my club and Brighton.

Tony Bloom took over Brighton at a time you could say City was ahead of them in the football pecking order.

The difference between Tony Bloom and Steve Lansdown is very simple.

Bloom, a rich man and good business man took over his club and knew he was not experienced in running a football club, so what did he do?

He employed the best people he could get to run the football side of Brighton while he took care of the business side of the club.

He got the best people in he could and listened to them in an area he was lacking in to help his club progress.

Look at the stark reality of where City and Brighton are now, both similar sized clubs and history, one a Prem established club in Europe and the other repeating the same mistakes and what I think will end again in relegation to league one.

Manning is not for me but the issues are so much wider, it's breaking my heart, again.

Brilliant post.  
SL could have saved himself an absolute fortune if he could have just reined in his ego and employed people who knew far more than him about running a football club successfully.

The biggest problem is, the £millions Lansdown has pissed up the wall isn’t really his loss, it’s now debt against this football club.

12 hours ago, Gaseater said:

I think he is now at the point where the current squad are struggling to implement what he wants - he needs to be backed with players who can.

What, like we did with LJ?  Look where we ended up with that experiment.

We won’t get Nige bailing us out of the mess that would create for a second time though!

31 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Hadn’t anticipated quite the depths of shiteness we were actually capable of achieving! QUOTE OF THE DAY SIR!

Unfortunately I’m filled with anticipation for the future!
 

 

At least we’ve got a new, low level benchmark to anticipate by now!

21 minutes ago, RedM said:

That's why for me it was so refreshing to see Twine, even if it was only for one match. It really made me realise how predictable and stale our fk and corner routines are.

Quite so RedM and for Manning’s sake, I hope the reason he didn’t play Twine yesterday was that he wasn’t quite ready, rather than by choice.  

That free kick by Nakhi just summed up why there’s no point in us getting excited about us winning a fk in a dangerous area!